(Second + Third) Ebola Confirmed Infection Dallas

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Gibsons

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This could so easily be used as an insane bio weapon. Someone could just walk around with a spray bottle on a hot day, pretending to cool themselves and others off. Spraying door handles, interior of mass transit vehicles etc. Not too difficult to pull off there.

Not as simple or easy as you're suggesting. What liquid are they using as a spray, where did it come from?
 

BeeBoop

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liquid feces straight from their asshole - unlimited sustainable supply.

I could see this. A terrorist on a suicide mission going to West Africa and draining blood from one of the many dead bodies. Because of the 21 day latency time, the suicide terrorist makes it back to EU or hands the canister over to someone who can make it to a western country. Next, head to a subway and splash it on people and tell them it was just a joke stink bomb. 21 days later, every person infected at the subway station infects their family members because they thought their symptoms came from the flu. Now, it's out of control all over EU.


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Hugo Drax

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This is why America is doomed. Who needs terrorists.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...-claim-lack-ebola-protocols-article-1.1974703


Among the other appalling lapses by the hospital that they listed:

- Supervisors walked walk in and out of Duncan’s isolation room without proper protective gear.

- Duncan’s lab specimens were transported through the hospital’s pneumatic tube system instead of being separately sealed and delivered, and thus “the entire tube system was potentially contaminated.”

- Caregivers donned “flimsy” hospital gowns that left their necks, heads and lower legs exposed, with head-to-toe protective gear not being supplied until Duncan’s second day in the intensive care unit.

- Some nurses who treated Duncan were “allowed to do other normal patient care duties” even though he had produced “copious amounts of diarrhea and vomiting” while they treated him.

- The hospital had never issued protocols to handle Ebola cases.
 

Ns1

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I'm totally confident this hospital has it under control. Totally.
 

Dari

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This is why America is doomed. Who needs terrorists.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...-claim-lack-ebola-protocols-article-1.1974703


Among the other appalling lapses by the hospital that they listed:

- Supervisors walked walk in and out of Duncan’s isolation room without proper protective gear.

- Duncan’s lab specimens were transported through the hospital’s pneumatic tube system instead of being separately sealed and delivered, and thus “the entire tube system was potentially contaminated.”

- Caregivers donned “flimsy” hospital gowns that left their necks, heads and lower legs exposed, with head-to-toe protective gear not being supplied until Duncan’s second day in the intensive care unit.

- Some nurses who treated Duncan were “allowed to do other normal patient care duties” even though he had produced “copious amounts of diarrhea and vomiting” while they treated him.

- The hospital had never issued protocols to handle Ebola cases.

Thanks for the link. People here saying disparaging things about the nurses and hospitals need to understand that this case should've been handled better by the CDC. They should've sent out an alert or how-tos wrt this nasty disease. The healthcare workers at these hospitals are not trained to deal with shit like ebola. It's a public service first and a business second. You can't fault them for these mistakes but you can fault the CDC for not being more proactive. When this outbreak started in December of 2013, one of the first teams in that region should've been the CDC. Now, they're just playing catchup in their own backyard.
 

Phoenix86

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This is why America is doomed. Who needs terrorists.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...-claim-lack-ebola-protocols-article-1.1974703


Among the other appalling lapses by the hospital that they listed:

- Supervisors walked walk in and out of Duncan’s isolation room without proper protective gear.

- Duncan’s lab specimens were transported through the hospital’s pneumatic tube system instead of being separately sealed and delivered, and thus “the entire tube system was potentially contaminated.”

- Caregivers donned “flimsy” hospital gowns that left their necks, heads and lower legs exposed, with head-to-toe protective gear not being supplied until Duncan’s second day in the intensive care unit.

- Some nurses who treated Duncan were “allowed to do other normal patient care duties” even though he had produced “copious amounts of diarrhea and vomiting” while they treated him.

- The hospital had never issued protocols to handle Ebola cases.
Add to this:

- The hospital shouldn't even be treating Ebola patients. Ebola being a level 4 pathogen should not be treated at that hospital.

Here's the list of BSL 4 facilities.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosafety_level#Biosafety_level_4

They are flying the second nurse to Atlanta now.
http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/heal...e-second-ebola-nurse-emory-hospital/17306939/

Should have sent both on the same plane.
 

Humpy

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someone has to basically have explosive diarrhea in your mouth while showing symptoms in order for Ebola to be transmitted.

LOL! That's easily avoidable unless...

drive-by explosive diarrhea to the face

...still, that's just a small, one time event that will have a limited impact on the population. There would have to be hundreds of thousands of gallons involved. Where would it all come from?

liquid feces straight from their asshole - unlimited sustainable supply.

:eek:
 

maddogchen

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Obama has authorized the CDC to send SWAT after you if you get infected. This just got real people!!!! In LA, the swaters are jumping with joy
 

Ns1

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lol @ humpy, dying over here. not from ebola, but from laughter.
 

Ns1

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Add to this:

- The hospital shouldn't even be treating Ebola patients. Ebola being a level 4 pathogen should not be treated at that hospital.

Here's the list of BSL 4 facilities.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosafety_level#Biosafety_level_4

They are flying the second nurse to Atlanta now.
http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/heal...e-second-ebola-nurse-emory-hospital/17306939/

Should have sent both on the same plane.

I'm a little surprised that India has a whopping 4 BSL4's. UK has 9, US has 14...
 

Hugo Drax

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America is not prepared. we would be just as bad as Africa or worse once this gets a foothold.

Wait till the looting and panicking happens.

Not only that but a large portion of Americas workforce have no sick days so they will just show up with Ebola so they dont get canned. Thats a non issue in Nigeria etc.. which we will be facing.

Get ready for Ebola bigmacs and lattes.
 

SSSnail

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So, this is how it ends huh? It's nice knowing you guys.

Oh, and the reason India hasn't had more cases is because the shits they already got over there treated Ebola like their bitches.
 

Ns1

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So, this is how it ends huh? It's nice knowing you guys.

Oh, and the reason India hasn't had more cases is because the shits they already got over there treated Ebola like their bitches.

Does anyone even fly West Africa -> India?
 
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how the fuck does this make sense?

Dr. Tom Frieden, director for the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), said during a telephone press briefing Wednesday that you cannot get Ebola by sitting next to someone on a bus, but that infected or exposed persons should not ride public transportation because they could transmit the disease to someone else.
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“I think there are two different parts of that equation,” he continued. “The first is, if you’re a member of the traveling public and are healthy, should you be worried that you might have gotten it by sitting next to someone? And the answer is no.”

“Second, if you are sick and you may have Ebola, should you get on a bus? And the answer to that is also no. You might become ill, you might have a problem that exposes someone around you,” he said.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/brittany-m-hughes/cdc-you-can-give-can-t-get-ebola-bus

How is that confusing? Ebola isn't airborne, so you can't get it just from sitting next to an infected person. However, if they were to get sick and projectile vomit blood directly into your mouth or whatever, yeah, you should get checked out. Infected people should avoid contact with the public because they aren't able to control when they might suddenly start vomiting or spraying diarrhea everywhere, potentially exposing others to the disease. So, no, that person next to you on the bus didn't give you ebola; if they did, you'd know it, because the phrase "covered in their feces, vomit and blood" would be involved.
 

CraKaJaX

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lol this thread lol. A few years ago it was the flu scare. Everyone runs to the local pharmacy for a shot. Now it's the ebola scare. Now someone gets "sick feeling" and it's "BREAKING NEWS". What happened to calling it a fever? How soon will it be until people are lined up down 6 blocks for some bullshit vaccine? You're sick, get some rest.

BREAKING NEWS: The sun will set tonight.
 

Ns1

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How is that confusing? Ebola isn't airborne, so you can't get it just from sitting next to an infected person. However, if they were to get sick and projectile vomit blood directly into your mouth or whatever, yeah, you should get checked out.

50246-so-youre-saying-theres-a-chanc-toCD.jpeg
 

massmedia

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Well that didn't take very long to happen.

let's reflect back on what big gov. and the bureaucrats running the CDC were telling americans when this texas ebola clusterfuck was going down...

"everything is under control"

so very quickly we have learned that the CDC bureaucracy is:
*saying shit with confidence when it doesn't have a fucking clue (a.k.a. lying out its ass)
*is more concerned with giving the appearance of control than it is with taking care of business and making 100% sure shit doesn't go wrong (a.k.a. making sure that "everything is under control"
*is run by incompetent fucks
*happy to straight up LIE

so, remember these lessons when citing these dipshits as the authority figures on Ebola
 

Ns1

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lol, not sure if srs

Now someone gets "sick feeling" and it's "BREAKING NEWS". What happened to calling it a fever?

This:

The man, Thomas Eric Duncan, 42, had a high fever — his temperature was 103 degrees — during his four-hour visit to the emergency room of Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital on Sept. 25, according to 1,400 pages of medical records that Mr. Duncan’s family provided to The Associated Press. Mr. Duncan reported severe pain, rating it an eight on a scale of one to 10. His fever was marked with an exclamation point in the hospital’s record-keeping system, The A.P. reported.

Judge Clay Jenkins of Dallas County visited the apartment where Thomas Eric Duncan had been staying before his Ebola was diagnosed.Dallas Official Confronts City’s Fear of

But the hospital sent Mr. Duncan home, even after learning that he had recently arrived from Africa. He was prescribed antibiotics and was told to take Tylenol, then he returned to the apartment where he was staying with his fiancée and three other people
 

Svnla

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"Oh, you guys are from the government, goodness. Everything will be ok now" - said no one ever.
 

massmedia

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How is that confusing? Ebola isn't airborne, so you can't get it just from sitting next to an infected person. However, if they were to get sick and projectile vomit blood directly into your mouth or whatever, yeah, you should get checked out. Infected people should avoid contact with the public because they aren't able to control when they might suddenly start vomiting or spraying diarrhea everywhere, potentially exposing others to the disease. So, no, that person next to you on the bus didn't give you ebola; if they did, you'd know it, because the phrase "covered in their feces, vomit and blood" would be involved.

Another person who doesn't understand what "isn't airborne" means in the context of infectious disease

if the guy next to you on the bus has ebola and is symptomatic and he coughs or sneezes saliva WILL leave his mouth. If it gets on you then you may very well get the infection and it would be classified as a non-airborne direct physical contact route of infection.