(Second + Third) Ebola Confirmed Infection Dallas

[Slew Foot]

Kinda blows my mind why these infected people werent sent to a BSL-4 facility immediately. I mean, WTF is the point of building them if you werent going to use them and just let some hokey hospital run by greedy asshole MBAs and untrained medical staff handle the ebola virus?

 

[CraKaJaX]

That's fine and legit and I understand. However there is no reason to scare the fuck out of the entire country like this:

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-lax-ebola-scare-20141012-story.html

Or

http://m.nydailynews.com/new-york/b...ecovering-illness-relatives-article-1.1971047

Or

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2014/10/ebola_scare_at_portland_intern.html

Or....

 

[Slew Foot]

Good news everybody, the CDC has this under control, just got this memo at the hospital:

Date: 15 October 2014

To: All Healthcare Facilities & Healthcare Workers

From: XXXXXXXXX

Subject: PUBLIC HEALTH UPDATE: Information on Ebola Virus

As many of you are already aware, the first case of Ebola virus in the U.S. was diagnosed in Texas last month in a person who traveled from Liberia before experiencing symptoms of illness. Unfortunately, two healthcare workers who cared for this patient prior to his death have also tested positive for Ebola. At this time, there are no other known cases of Ebola in California or in any other parts of the U.S.

Only three countries in West Africa are currently known to have Ebola transmission: Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leone. Infection is transmitted only through the body fluids (blood, vomit, urine, feces, sweat, semen, saliva) of someone who is sick from or has died from Ebola, or from contaminated objects. It cannot be spread via casual contact, air, or water. It cannot be spread from an infected person prior to symptom onset. Flu-like and other symptoms appear after a 2-21 day incubation period and include fever, headache, diarrhea, vomiting, stomach pain, muscle pain, bleeding and bruising.

If you see a patient who has traveled in one of the three affected countries within 21 days of symptom onset AND has a fever (subjective or >100.4°F or 38.0°C) please take the following steps immediately:

• Isolate patient in single room with a private bathroom and with the door to hallway closed.
• Implement standard, contact, and droplet precautions (gown, facemask, eye protection, and gloves).
• Notify the hospital Infection Control Program and other appropriate staff.
• Evaluate for any risk exposures.
• Report to XXXXXXXXXXX. We will assist you in determining if testing is indicated.

For more information, you may contact us at XXXXXXXXXX or access the following websites:
1. CDC (including specific guidance on infection control, PPE, and laboratory testing): http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/index.html
2. California Department of Public Health: http://cdph.ca.gov/programs/cder/Pages/Ebola.aspx



This constitutes our ebola mandatroy training. Our little community hospital where most of the nurses are over 50 are now sufficiently equipped to handle ebola. Good thing they put precautions in BOLD for emphasis, thatll teach show em.

 

[CraKaJaX]

My child ate 16 big macs on a flight from Africa to JFK and he shit his brains out for 5 1/2 hours. Oh no, Flu like symptoms. Possibly the flu? Probably has ebola. Better air this shit as breaking news IMMEDIATELY

 

[YBS1]

lol this thread lol. A few years ago it was the flu scare. Everyone runs to the local pharmacy for a shot. Now it's the ebola scare. Now someone gets "sick feeling" and it's "BREAKING NEWS". What happened to calling it a fever? How soon will it be until people are lined up down 6 blocks for some bullshit vaccine? You're sick, get some rest.

BREAKING NEWS: The sun will set tonight.

This is exactly why it's concerning. Every year lately the media/medical communities have a flavor of the moment they rally around to tell us the sky is falling. H1N1, West Nile, Swine Flu, etc., etc. "This could be the worst thing since the Spanish Flu, be vigilant, take every precaution, etc. etc." This has never once concerned me, and of course nothing really ever came of any of them.

In contrast this time they get on TV as calm and carefree as can be... "We've got it all under control, nothing to be concerned about, it's not really that contagious". All the while treating people with it while in full hazmat gear yet still somehow becoming infected at incredible rates. That's how you know we're screwed. Different motivations, one they are trying to cause concern, one they are trying to prevent panic.

 

[Ns1]

Only three countries in West Africa are currently known to have Ebola transmission: Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leone.

3 countries in West Africa and 1 state in USA.

 

[Slew Foot]

3 countries in West Africa and 1 state in USA.

Spain has an infected person but no transmission, yet....

 

[massmedia]

There is a way to deliver truthful non-misleading info....

tell people what is lacking and needs to be done, tell people how shit is gonna get done... show leadership and inspire confidence.

instead we have option 2: lying and incompetence from the CDC which has led to some serious fuckups and potential exposure of who knows how many people all over the place thanks to a symptomatic flying nurse. Option 2 is the reason people will start panicking because viruses don't play politics and political charad3s will not contain viruses. People will see failure and shit will get ugly

 

[massmedia]

Good news everybody, the CDC has this under control, just got this memo at the hospital:

Date: 15 October 2014

To: All Healthcare Facilities & Healthcare Workers

From: XXXXXXXXX

Subject: PUBLIC HEALTH UPDATE: Information on Ebola Virus

As many of you are already aware, the first case of Ebola virus in the U.S. was diagnosed in Texas last month in a person who traveled from Liberia before experiencing symptoms of illness. Unfortunately, two healthcare workers who cared for this patient prior to his death have also tested positive for Ebola. At this time, there are no other known cases of Ebola in California or in any other parts of the U.S.

Only three countries in West Africa are currently known to have Ebola transmission: Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leone. Infection is transmitted only through the body fluids (blood, vomit, urine, feces, sweat, semen, saliva) of someone who is sick from or has died from Ebola, or from contaminated objects. It cannot be spread via casual contact, air, or water. It cannot be spread from an infected person prior to symptom onset. Flu-like and other symptoms appear after a 2-21 day incubation period and include fever, headache, diarrhea, vomiting, stomach pain, muscle pain, bleeding and bruising.

If you see a patient who has traveled in one of the three affected countries within 21 days of symptom onset AND has a fever (subjective or >100.4°F or 38.0°C) please take the following steps immediately:

• Isolate patient in single room with a private bathroom and with the door to hallway closed.
• Implement standard, contact, and droplet precautions (gown, facemask, eye protection, and gloves).
• Notify the hospital Infection Control Program and other appropriate staff.
• Evaluate for any risk exposures.
• Report to XXXXXXXXXXX. We will assist you in determining if testing is indicated.

For more information, you may contact us at XXXXXXXXXX or access the following websites:
1. CDC (including specific guidance on infection control, PPE, and laboratory testing): http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/index.html
2. California Department of Public Health: http://cdph.ca.gov/programs/cder/Pages/Ebola.aspx



This constitutes our ebola mandatroy training. Our little community hospital where most of the nurses are over 50 are now sufficiently equipped to handle ebola. Good thing they put precautions in BOLD for emphasis, thatll teach show em.

this is already outdated because of the flying nurse, surfaces she touched at the airports, on the airplanes and elsewhere. Now american locations are potential sources of infection so the protocol is going to have to look wider than people who traveled in africa if it is going to be serious.

 

[CraKaJaX]

This is exactly why it's concerning. Every year lately the media/medical communities have a flavor of the moment they rally around to tell us the sky is falling. H1N1, West Nile, Swine Flu, etc., etc. "This could be the worst thing since the Spanish Flu, be vigilant, take every precaution, etc. etc." This has never once concerned me, and of course nothing really ever came of any of them.

In contrast this time they get on TV as calm and carefree as can be... "We've got it all under control, nothing to be concerned about, it's not really that contagious". All the while treating people with it while in full hazmat gear yet still somehow becoming infected at incredible rates. That's how you know we're screwed. Different motivations, one they are trying to cause concern, one they are trying to prevent panic.

Wow, you remember more than I do. Those were certainly fun ones! And that reminds me of my personal favorite: ANTHRAX. It sounds way worse than ebola.

 

[Ns1]

Wow, you remember more than I do. Those were certainly fun ones! And that reminds me of my personal favorite: ANTHRAX. It sounds way worse than ebola.

yeah, nothing is coming out of this except 9k cases and 5k deaths in....24 weeks?

 

[Captante]

However there is no reason to scare the fuck out of the entire country

You forgot one reason ... selling an ass-load of papers!

 

[echo4747]

So, the names of the two nurses who contracted ebola are Nina and Amber. What is this, some kind of porn hospital?

 

[Markbnj]

So, the names of the two nurses who contracted ebola are Nina and Amber. What is this, some kind of porn hospital?

My wife, Tiffany, works there, and she's offended by your comment.

 

[xaeniac]

So, the names of the two nurses who contracted ebola are Nina and Amber. What is this, some kind of porn hospital?

You watch too much porn. There is nothing wrong with those names.

 

[Imp]

Spain has an infected person but no transmission, yet....

I was watching the news earlier and it said 3 cases in Spain, 3 in Germany, and 1 in UK. Did not know about them.

 

[njdevilsfan87]

This is exactly why it's concerning. Every year lately the media/medical communities have a flavor of the moment they rally around to tell us the sky is falling. H1N1, West Nile, Swine Flu, etc., etc.

Just some quick Google on mortality rates

West Nile : 3-15%
H1N1 : 0.02%
Influenza : Can't even find a % it is so low
Ebola : Possibly as high as 70%

 

[Imp]

Just some quick Google on mortality rates

West Nile : 3-15%
H1N1 : 0.02%
Influenza : Can't even find a % it is so low
Ebola : Possibly as high as 70%

It's 90% from what I've read. The 70% figure may be from the current outbreak in Africa. Overall, it's something like 50% to 90%.

On the bright side, as more people die, the mortality rate should fall.

 

[Ns1]

It's 90% from what I've read. The 70% figure may be from the current outbreak in Africa. Overall, it's something like 50% to 90%.

On the bright side, as more people die, the mortality rate should fall.

Darwinism mother fuckers!!!

Good luck ya'll

 

[DrDoug]

This is why America is doomed. Who needs terrorists.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...-claim-lack-ebola-protocols-article-1.1974703


Among the other appalling lapses by the hospital that they listed:

- Supervisors walked walk in and out of Duncan’s isolation room without proper protective gear.

- Duncan’s lab specimens were transported through the hospital’s pneumatic tube system instead of being separately sealed and delivered, and thus “the entire tube system was potentially contaminated.”

- Caregivers donned “flimsy” hospital gowns that left their necks, heads and lower legs exposed, with head-to-toe protective gear not being supplied until Duncan’s second day in the intensive care unit.

- Some nurses who treated Duncan were “allowed to do other normal patient care duties” even though he had produced “copious amounts of diarrhea and vomiting” while they treated him.

- The hospital had never issued protocols to handle Ebola cases.

The free market and profit at all costs has spoken. That and this is the best you will get out of a state government that prides itself on its business-friendly minimal to no regulation environment. The best thing for the free market hospital to do is to wait and make sure that all hell breaks loose and then spend some money to do something about it. It's cheaper to toss out a few sacrificial goats later who will take the fall for this than it would be to spend money and later find out that there was nothing to worry about. If shit blows up then they will deal with that bridge when they cross it.

Another problem for a for-profit hospital is having dedicated nurses and doctors who exclusively handle epidemic-type cases and are kept separate from the rest of the hospital for the duration of the event. It is just too expensive for a for-profit enterprise to do something like this, employees cost money and at best this hospital would only get Medicare rate reimbursement as Duncan had no insurance. Far better that the administrators keep their employees pumping out patients who have money and/or insurance. Remember, it's all about the bottom line. People are expendable, profit is spendable!

This love affair with free markets is going to kill us and Texas is leading the way!

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

The free market and profit at all costs has spoken. That and this is the best you will get out of a state government that prides itself on its business-friendly minimal to no regulation environment. The best thing for the free market hospital to do is to wait and make sure that all hell breaks loose and then spend some money to do something about it. It's cheaper to toss out a few sacrificial goats later who will take the fall for this than it would be to spend money and later find out that there was nothing to worry about. If shit blows up then they will deal with that bridge when they cross it.

Another problem for a for-profit hospital is having dedicated nurses and doctors who exclusively handle epidemic-type cases and are kept separate from the rest of the hospital for the duration of the event. It is just too expensive for a for-profit enterprise to do something like this, employees cost money and at best this hospital would only get Medicare rate reimbursement as Duncan had no insurance. Far better that the administrators keep their employees pumping out patients who have money and/or insurance. Remember, it's all about the bottom line. People are expendable, profit is spendable!

This love affair with free markets is going to kill us and Texas is leading the way!

You realize that government doesn't pay enough to do what you are crying about. Dedicated facilities? How about
Kobe beef and truffles. For fucks sake people you think Uncle Obama is going to toss the extra hundred billion more for what things really cost? Well some people are going to have a real awakening this January as far as Medicare goes and I'll let you chew on that one.

It's a non profit hospital BTW. Egads, my morning dose of stupid.

 

[WelshBloke]

Good news everybody, the CDC has this under control, just got this memo at the hospital:

Date: 15 October 2014

To: All Healthcare Facilities & Healthcare Workers

From: XXXXXXXXX

Subject: PUBLIC HEALTH UPDATE: Information on Ebola Virus

As many of you are already aware, the first case of Ebola virus in the U.S. was diagnosed in Texas last month in a person who traveled from Liberia before experiencing symptoms of illness. Unfortunately, two healthcare workers who cared for this patient prior to his death have also tested positive for Ebola. At this time, there are no other known cases of Ebola in California or in any other parts of the U.S.

Only three countries in West Africa are currently known to have Ebola transmission: Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leone. Infection is transmitted only through the body fluids (blood, vomit, urine, feces, sweat, semen, saliva) of someone who is sick from or has died from Ebola, or from contaminated objects. It cannot be spread via casual contact, air, or water. It cannot be spread from an infected person prior to symptom onset. Flu-like and other symptoms appear after a 2-21 day incubation period and include fever, headache, diarrhea, vomiting, stomach pain, muscle pain, bleeding and bruising.

If you see a patient who has traveled in one of the three affected countries within 21 days of symptom onset AND has a fever (subjective or >100.4°F or 38.0°C) please take the following steps immediately:

• Isolate patient in single room with a private bathroom and with the door to hallway closed.
• Implement standard, contact, and droplet precautions (gown, facemask, eye protection, and gloves).
• Notify the hospital Infection Control Program and other appropriate staff.
• Evaluate for any risk exposures.
• Report to XXXXXXXXXXX. We will assist you in determining if testing is indicated.

For more information, you may contact us at XXXXXXXXXX or access the following websites:
1. CDC (including specific guidance on infection control, PPE, and laboratory testing): http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/index.html
2. California Department of Public Health: http://cdph.ca.gov/programs/cder/Pages/Ebola.aspx



This constitutes our ebola mandatroy training. Our little community hospital where most of the nurses are over 50 are now sufficiently equipped to handle ebola. Good thing they put precautions in BOLD for emphasis, thatll teach show em.

Basically isnt that saying "if you get a suspected Ebola case isolate it and kick it up the line and let us handle it."?
Thats what we do. If we get a suspected "exotic disease" we inform the relevant guys and they come and dramatically take them away to an appropriate treatment place.

Last thing I want is to get stuck with an infectious Ebola patient on my ward, I'm reporting to XXXXXXXXXXXXX and they can bunny suit up and come get them.

Wow, you remember more than I do. Those were certainly fun ones! And that reminds me of my personal favorite: ANTHRAX. It sounds way worse than ebola.

Anthrax isnt a joke.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gruinard_Island

 

[Jeffg010]

http://news.yahoo.com/ebola-diagnosed-in-second-dallas-nurse-105542930.html

Not going to lie I hope she kicks the bucket. You know you been treating ebola and you get on a flight. Not going cry when you die.

 

[dawp]

It's the end of the world as we know it

(and I feel fine)

 

[OverVolt]

It's the end of the world as we know it

(and I feel fineeeeeeee)

Just this nagging slight cough,,,, allergies probably...