Seattle autonomous zone

[Vic]

If you've ever lived in Connecticut, there's signage all over the place that says "This road is legally closed" . That was back in the 80's when I lived there. Some kind of get out of jail card for the country or state. Not sure how it could ever legally stand up.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks to me like the protesters were in the express lanes and not the main freeway. Which means the entire area could be closed off, unless someone were to deliberately drive around the gates by entering the freeway going the wrong way. But clearly it's the protesters' fault for 'irresponsibly' not considering that someone would want to intentionally run them over, as that's only happened 50+ times in the last month.

 

[Starbuck1975]

No, the protesters were hit because a driver committed the criminal act of deliberately hitting them. It's weird how you don't seem to have a problem with that, but yet some protesters' speech hurts your ears so much that you blame them for being murdered.

The driver didn’t deliberately hit them

 

[zzyzxroad]

Still doesn't the fact that you're telling lies to defend a murder. It's not at all appropriate, but I'm sure you do that all the time.

You are never going to get him to have an honest conversation. It almost seems like he intentionally does this to keep a conversation going.

 

[Vic]

The driver didn’t deliberately hit them

That's not what the video shows. After deliberately driving the wrong way and around cars blocking the freeway, the driver even drove up on the shoulder to hit them. Hardly an accident, except to sick fucks looking for an excuse to see people killed for their speech.

 

[Starbuck1975]

That's not what the video shows. After deliberately driving the wrong way and around cars blocking the freeway, the driver even drove up on the shoulder to hit them. Hardly an accident, except to sick fucks looking for an excuse to see people killed for their speech.

You clearly haven’t read any of the accounts for how the driver was apprehended and his first words and state of mind when he was. Get caught up.

 

[Starbuck1975]

You are never going to get him to have an honest conversation. It almost seems like he intentionally does this to keep a conversation going.

The most recent accounts clearly state that the driver did not intend to hit the protestors.

 

[Jhhnn]

Is a freeway an intelligent place to hold a rally late at night without adequate police protection? Nope. There is a reason why late night road work has such extensive lighting and a police presence. Drunk and irresponsible drivers are a threat late at night even when there aren’t people on the freeway.

Both sides victim blaming... how predictable.

 

[Jhhnn]

The most recent accounts clearly state that the driver did not intend to hit the protestors.

And now... mind reading.

 

[zzyzxroad]

The most recent accounts clearly state that the driver did not intend to hit the protestors.

I wasn't talking to you.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Both sides victim blaming... how predictable.

That’s usually how blame works when there are multiple parties at fault.

 

[Starbuck1975]

I wasn't talking to you.

No, you passive aggressively referred to me and I directly corrected you.

 

[Starbuck1975]

And now... mind reading.

You’re welcome to present evidence that this was intentional. When stopped, the driver asked if the protestors were ok. Don’t need to read minds, the facts speak for themselves.

 

[pcgeek11]

The other day a clueless pedestrian talking on his phone stepped in front of my car. And as I quickly took evasive action to avoid hitting another human being with my vehicle, it never once occurred to me that I could use the fact the he was 'world class stupid' to get away with hitting him on purpose. Mostly because I would never want to hit anyone, not even on accident, but also because intentionally hitting someone with a vehicle is a crime.

You and the poster you quoted should stop pretending you care about law and order, or about people's lives, while you apologize so profusely for a blatantly criminal act that resulted in someone's death.

While I agree with your points and I think this dude could have avoided them and should be charged with a crime.

The victims also bear some responsibility, for which they have paid dearly.

 

[brycejones]

While I agree with your points and I think this dude could have avoided them. The victims also bear some responsibility.

Victim blaming is always a good look.

 

[Greenman]

why dont you go and do a survey on every road in America thats "closed" and come back with a number of how many had cars on them.
I bet it about 90 percent. And I haven't even conducted a survey.

How does that justify protesters standing on an active freeway? If it was a road that was officially closed there would be a barrier across it, and no traffic. The entire point of the protest was to stop traffic, an extremely dubious proposition if it works, as all it does is piss people off. When it doesn't work, people die.

 

[pcgeek11]

Victim blaming is always a good look.

Do you think they have no responsibility for their actions?

 

[zzyzxroad]

No, you passive aggressively referred to me and I directly corrected you.

I simply stated a fact.

 

[brycejones]

Do you think they have no responsibility for their actions?

For being on a closed road and run down by a man who made an effort to get at them? What possible “responsibility for their actions” could they have?
Do you hold a pedestrian responsible when some asshole leaves the road and runs them down on the sidewalk because they left their home?

 

[pcgeek11]

For being on a closed road and run down by a man who made an effort to get at them? What possible “responsibility for their actions” could they have?
Do you hold a pedestrian responsible when some asshole leaves the road and runs them down on the sidewalk because they left their home?

Well for one they were on a multilane highway not a sidewalk.

They have no business on the highway, no more so than his car would on a sidewalk.

I'm not saying the guy isn't guilty, he is absolutely.

 

[brycejones]

Well for one they were on a multilane highway not a sidewalk.

They have no business on the highway, no more so than his car would on a sidewalk.

I'm not saying the guy isn't guilty, he is absolutely.

The highway was closed and the guy in question had to go the wrong way on an exit ramp to get on the highway to hit them.

 

[Starbuck1975]

The highway was closed and the guy in question had to go the wrong way on an exit ramp to get on the highway to hit them.

If that were true, you would be correct, but that’s not what happened, so you’re not.

 

[Starbuck1975]

I simply stated a fact.

Facts assume you have proof to back them up

 

[pcgeek11]

The highway was closed and the guy in question had to go the wrong way on an exit ramp to get on the highway to hit them.

OK. I read that part already and watched the video...

 

[ch33zw1z]

Probably safe to say you shouldn't hit people with your car, regardless of whether or not you think you have the right of way. Based on the last page or so, seems like that needs to be stated.

 

[allisolm]

The highway was closed and the guy in question had to go the wrong way on an exit ramp to get on the highway to hit them.

If that were true, you would be correct, but that’s not what happened, so you’re not.

That's exactly what happened.


"Kelete -- traveling at "freeway speeds" -- drove his white Jaguar XJL the wrong way up an Interstate 5 exit ramp"

"which had been closed by the state patrol for more than an hour before the protesters were hit. Mead said they suspect Kelete drove the wrong way on a ramp. "

"A preliminary investigation found that state troopers had closed the northbound and southbound lanes of I-5 at around midnight Friday after protesters entered the freeway from the ramp at Yale Street for the 19th consecutive night. At about 1:40 a.m. Saturday, the suspect drove a white 2013 Jaguar the wrong way onto I-5 from an unknown exit ramp before turning around and heading south at high speed "

"They were reportedly participating in the Black Femme March on Friday night, for which Washington State troopers had blocked off on-ramps onto Interstate 5."

The driver has been charged in the death of a Seattle protester who was hit by a car

By Jennifer Henderson and Madeline Holcombe, CNN (CNN) -- A driver has been charged in the death of Summer Taylor, a 24-year-old protester killed during a demonstration on a closed highway on July Fourth in Seattle.Dawit Kelete, 27, has been charge

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Protester dies after driver hit crowd on closed Seattle highway

The driver got around several other vehicles blocking Interstate 5, police said, then drove into the crowd. Another protester is in serious condition.

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Seattle woman struck on I-5 during overnight protest has died, officials say

SEATTLE (KOMO) — A Seattle protester who was struck during the overnight hours on Interstate 5 during a rally about police brutality has died, hospital officials said Saturday evening. Summer Taylor, 24, of Seattle, was pronounced dead about 6:30 p. m. after being listed in critical condition at...

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Protester Dies After Car Plows Into Peaceful Seattle March

Summer Taylor, 24, died in the hospital on Saturday. Diaz Love, who was also hit, remains in critical condition.

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