I've never tried raid so I can't speak from experience. But if raid 0 is bad, why is it used by all the major pc vendors on their performance pc and gaming rigs? I know if 1 drive goes down, you are screwed, but the same goes when you only have 1 hd and it dies.
think of it this way, the odds 1 out of 2 hard drives will fail is twice as likely as a single drive failing, so there definately is increased risk. for real world you are much better off just having 2 hard drives in your system since the performance gains are insignificant. that way hopefully the one that fails is not your system drive. or you could raid to duplicate the data across the drives, which will greatly reduce the risk.
this dude needs to take a probability class.
once you go RAID, chances are, you'll never go back. u can get the fastest, unreleased, MIT-developed hard drive scheduled for 2010, and the first thing you'll think about is putting 2 of them in RAID0. desktop software isn't too bogged down by hardware these days so in the grand scheme of things, not a big deal, right? so what if you wait an extra 1, 2, 3... however many seconds?
BUT... i'll tell you, and anyone else with RAID will tell you, it IS faster -- oh so VERY NOTICEABLY faster.
on failure rate, 1 or 2 in RAID0 or 3 in RAID5... all setups have failure rates. is it easier to recover from any of those setups? no, you still have to start from scratch after a failure. spare yourself the failure rate BS and just have a recovery plan. ghost will do.
you seem like an reasonably adventurous fellow. i think the little man inside you says you ought to at least try it! RAID yourself free. i highly doubt you'll think "hmm, i know my failure rate is higher now because it's in RAID0... i shouldn't have done that."
Have you ever tried RAID 0? Have you ever benchmarked a RAID 0 array?
I've got 2 of the new Raptors in RAID 0 and they are blazingly fast!
the new Raptors are better because they are faster and quieter. They have a single platter which is more dense than the older platters and thus are faster. They also have double the cache.
It's the raptors that are fast, not the RAID and yes RAID0 has better benchmarks but as far as performance doing real things, it's insignificant, im basing these on articles not taking it outta my ass so..
lol @ newegg & ups...
ordered 2 min apart, i get one drive yesterday, the other is coming today...not to mention UPS took them both on completely different routes.
Oh well, so long as my D50 comes back today I"ll be happy with UPS.
ordered 2 min apart, i get one drive yesterday, the other is coming today...not to mention UPS took them both on completely different routes.
Oh well, so long as my D50 comes back today I"ll be happy with UPS.
Actually, you are talking out of your ass. Read that article closely again, there's a sentence that states for certain applications, there will be a significant speed up.
Guess what a major, relatively common application is? Video/audio editing and encoding. You'll most definitely note a major speed improvement there, as long as you have a fast enough CPU(s).
I'll grant you that for reading email, word processing, and web browsing that RAID0 is overkill. So is a P4 or AMD 64, for that matter. It's all about purpose. You don't buy a ferrari to haul trash, and you don't buy a pickup to race formula 1. For those that are experiencing disk I/O bottlenecks, RAID 0 is a perfect answer, as long as increased failure rates are taken into account.
[edit] BTW, I should add that RAID1, if properly done by the software/hardware, will imperceptibly slow down writes over a single drive solution, but reads should be equivalent to 2 drives in RAID0. (Striped reading is possible on mirrored drives) Unfortunately, to get that performance generally means having to go to expensive RAID controllers, unless something's changed recently.
Sorry buddy, I don't agree that a video editing and encoding is a very common use for computer users. I'm sure a lot of people can agree with me here. Also the majority get P4 and AMD 64s for gaming purposes, but there is no faster load time for RAID 0 unfortunately.
I used Raid 0 for my 2 raptors for like a week or 2 and couldn't figure out why CPU usage was so high all the time. Turns out raid 0 support in the mobo is software based. Think about it like this: software based = cpu usage = basically not using DMA. If you have ever not used DMA its not the raw speed thats a problem its the complete waste of CPU time. In OTHER news I think I might have to jump on this. thanks OP
I've had these drives for about a week and they are much, much quieter than the maxtor SATA drives I also have - fwiw.
Man, it sucks that I just got 2 of these for $99.99 three days ago and today they drop it down to $94.99. I just lost $10+tax. Do you guys know if Newegg will honor price adjustment?
From the Newegg FAQ (product section):
The price of an item I purchased has dropped prior to shipment. Is it possible to get a refund of the difference?
Newegg.com does not offer any price guarantee, because industry prices change too often and too fast. If your order has not shipped, you can cancel the order online and re-order to take advantage of the new prices. All prices are as posted at the time of purchase.
On a side note I know the feeling, I paid $5 more each drive over the weekend as well and missed out on the free dvds.
The price of an item I purchased has dropped prior to shipment. Is it possible to get a refund of the difference?
Newegg.com does not offer any price guarantee, because industry prices change too often and too fast. If your order has not shipped, you can cancel the order online and re-order to take advantage of the new prices. All prices are as posted at the time of purchase.
On a side note I know the feeling, I paid $5 more each drive over the weekend as well and missed out on the free dvds.
Alright... I can't pass up the 94.99 for 320 GB with free shipping
I am in for 2 HD and a SATA card (since my mobo's full)
All for $214 shipped..
I am in for 2 HD and a SATA card (since my mobo's full)
All for $214 shipped..
MUUUUHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Just ordered one and applied my price mistake $25 credit
(and my boss too)
so two drives for $69.99ea shipped- booya!
Just ordered one and applied my price mistake $25 credit
(and my boss too)
so two drives for $69.99ea shipped- booya!
Originally posted by: BIGFOOTPI
MUUUUHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Just ordered one and applied my price mistake $25 credit
(and my boss too)
so two drives for $69.99ea shipped- booya!
What????!?!?!?!?!?!??! What happened???
what do you mean what happened? We applied our $25 price mistake credits to our orders and got the drives even cheaper...
for those that missed it, there was a big fiasco covered here in the forums about a super deal on 160gb IDE drives on serious discount at newegg- everyone who ordered 160gb seagate HDDs from newegg for 30some bucks got shafted ( CC cards charged but orders cancelled), and then got $25 store credits for their trouble if the called and whined like we and many other ATers did..
for those that missed it, there was a big fiasco covered here in the forums about a super deal on 160gb IDE drives on serious discount at newegg- everyone who ordered 160gb seagate HDDs from newegg for 30some bucks got shafted ( CC cards charged but orders cancelled), and then got $25 store credits for their trouble if the called and whined like we and many other ATers did..
ah, I thought you meant you got 25 from a pricing error on the 320 drive.
a previous order...jeez.. where's my head at today??
a previous order...jeez.. where's my head at today??
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