SCOTUS hearing on Roe V Wade

[MrSquished]

Sounds like his parents should have aborted him, then he would be in paradise!

One can only dream.

 

[Amol S.]

LOL - the graph is upside down. Here is the real data:

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I wonder if Marg Sanger was a liberal democrat/socialist/radical or conservative republican? Who knows? Apparently judging from this data, or at least YOUR data, she should be, don't you think?

Just want to ask you a question chicken little. How are you and the other Trumpanzees doing with your "sky is falling" conspiracy theories of "never ending inflation" or "stagflation 2.0", that you folks claim is being caused by who trumpanzees call "Jimmy Biden"?

Just to let you know, ever since Biden took office the U.S. Dollar's value has been rising, and EUR/USD has been declining.

FX:EURUSD Chart Image

www.tradingview.com

On a side note, before you go claiming the source I provided was fake news, TradingView gets its data thru ICE(InterContinental Exchange). ICE is owned by Kelly Loffler's (the former US Senate candidate from Georgia who lost to Warnok) husband. So basically I got this data from your own people. Isn't it interesting that your people say one thing, but show proof that the opposite is actually happening?

 

[cytg111]

common, the moron actually said that covid is man made, lib made, bio weapon to bring about the end of the days and vaxxes were the mark of the beast.

he is 10000% trolling, on a 10 year acid trip or he managed to get net access from within the funny house.

 

[IronWing]

God does not like his children being murdered before even having a chance to live.

The god you created agrees with you, funny that.

 

[Storm-Chaser]

you just know he wants raped children to risk dying in child birth rather than abort because it’s about love and life.

Yes, without question. That's stated very clearly in the Bible. Babies are designed to be born not murdered. Hence, there is something called a birth canal, and not something called a death chamber.

Well, if we needed any further evidence that it was just a troll, I think that about does it.

TBH I thought it fit really well with the theme of hell.

And with ironwings, he really fell.

Not fun when the roles are reversed, is it?

 

[Storm-Chaser]

The god you created agrees with you, funny that.

LOL I'm 36 years old.... I wasn't around 5000 years ago so there is definitely NO WAY I created God. Get your history straight.

 

[IronWing]

LOL I'm 36 years old.... I wasn't around 5000 years ago so there is definitely NO WAY I created God. Get your history straight. View attachment 54002

Are you ashamed of your creation? You can always mod it.

 

[brycejones]

LOL I'm 36 years old.... I wasn't around 5000 years ago so there is definitely NO WAY I created God. Get your history straight. View attachment 54002

Do you believe the Earth is only a few thousand years old?

 

[Storm-Chaser]

Ironic, you guys have been trolling me since my first post. I didn't complain. But now some of you are acting like unborn children.

Guys I'm not trolling I just hit 5.6GHz! 9600KF @ 1.450 volts, I am here for the right reasons. To shed truth on this debate and also connect with the online tech community. Im serious check my chiller thread.

The reason...I did what I did
someone audacious enough to use the term "rape baby" leaves himself wide open for wrath and anger and of course, getting throttled by the truth.

Who all here is on board with this term?? Any takers??

 

[Storm-Chaser]

Do you believe the Earth is only a few thousand years old?

No

 

[Paratus]

Yes, without question. That's stated very clearly in the Bible. Babies are designed to be born not murdered. Hence, there is something called a birth canal, and not something called a death chamber.


TBH I thought it fit really well with the theme of hell.

And with ironwings, he really fell. View attachment 54000View attachment 54001

Not fun when the roles are reversed, is it?

So going with an evil God. That’s a bold move cotton.

 

[nakedfrog]

Yes, without question. That's stated very clearly in the Bible. Babies are designed to be born not murdered. Hence, there is something called a birth canal, and not something called a death chamber.


TBH I thought it fit really well with the theme of hell.

And with ironwings, he really fell. View attachment 54000View attachment 54001

Not fun when the roles are reversed, is it?

I was referring to just flipping the abortion rate chart. Kinda like using a Sharpie to change the path of a hurricane.

 

[Storm-Chaser]

Are you ashamed of your creation? You can always mod it.

Humanity itself has been burdened with shame corporately since the fall of man in the garden. We are all ashamed.

And what if a woman has the anti-christ in her womb, is it ok, not ok to abort it?

The anti-christ has already been born so this is a moot point. His name is Barack Obama.

 

[Ajay]

I haven't argued intent or legal outcomes. I just want to make sure you understand the implications of your words. According to your words here your justification for your anti-abortion stance has absolutely nothing to do with protecting the soul of the fetus, since you concede that an aborted soul is treated no differently than a miscarried soul. You understand this and acknowledge it?

I was just giving an example. Intent is critical assessing culpability for example. Guess I chose my words poorly. The aborted fetus is denied life on purpose. That is the fundament matter in this debate. The miscarried fetus is denied life, but not intentionally so. That is the main difference. No one has the right to terminate the life of another. My church, and Christian churches as well, teach that life begins at the moment of conception - a human life. My church has already ruled (~200 years ago) that the matter of 'ensoulment' isn't germane to the legality of abortions. Abortion is the taking of a human life. Period, end of story. No one is responsible for the loss of a fetus due to miscarriage because there is not intent on any persons part (man or women). Whether or not a women intentionally became pregnant or not is also not germane to the topic - as no one has the right to take the life of the fetus. Does unintentional pregnancy result in serious stress for women - yes, absolutely; I do acknowledge that. Punishing the fetus for being conceived is an absolute absurdity. The cognitive dissonance involved in accepting the punishment another human being with death, though totally innocent - is mind boggling!

Obviously, this totally at odds with your world view. This debate just swirls around in circles repeatedly. I'm just presenting the perspective of a lay Catholic on this subject - if you want a better explanation, go to a local parish an ask a priest to talk to you about this - he's far more educated about Catholic ethics an moral theology than I am.

Devote Catholics don't expect to be winning any popularity contests based on our views. I certainly don't, I just thought, it might be worthwhile expressing them - since so many people are willing to propose beliefs that we don't actually hold. I'm not trying to win this debate, it's clearly an impossibility; I'm not that gifted.

 

[Storm-Chaser]

I was referring to just flipping the abortion rate chart. Kinda like using a Sharpie to change the path of a hurricane.

Generally speaking, republicans are conservative. Remember it was Abraham Lincoln who freed the slaves by raising them to the level of a true human being. They were demonized by the left and it took a conservative replublican to free them. Conservatives aim to preserve life with no other motive. So the notion that they allow for more abortions than any democratic candidate flies in the face of known evidence. And the evidence pool is HUGE.

We don't confer rights until the moment it is born, currently. Regardless, even a person with full rights does not have a right to occupy space inside another person without their consent, and the person being occupied has the right to terminate that consent at any time.

Not true. 38 states recognize the rights of infants in the death chamber / woob as identical to those as people already having been born:

 

[Ajay]

Wait, you're surprised a deity that raped a woman to birth His son which became Him (which is one of the ways religious people are deliberately taught that logic is not a thing but faith is) is cool with rape but not cool with abortion? Its honestly one of the few times there's real consistency.

Seriously man, she consented "let it be done to me according to thy will". Also, the Holy Spirit was the 'father' in the case, and is a distinct person, within the Trinity, from the Son. Maybe get some of the basics right before yapping about it

 

[cytg111]

I was just giving an example. Intent is critical assessing culpability for example. Guess I chose my words poorly. The aborted fetus is denied life on purpose. That is the fundament matter in this debate. The miscarried fetus is denied life, but not intentionally so. That is the main difference. No one has the right to terminate the life of another. My church, and Christian churches as well, teach that life begins at the moment of conception - a human life. My church has already ruled (~200 years ago) that the matter of 'ensoulment' isn't germane to the legality of abortions. Abortion is the taking of a human life. Period, end of story. No one is responsible for the loss of a fetus due to miscarriage because there is not intent on any persons part (man or women). Whether or not a women intentionally became pregnant or not is also not germane to the topic - as no one has the right to take the life of the fetus. Does unintentional pregnancy result in serious stress for women - yes, absolutely; I do acknowledge that. Punishing the fetus for being conceived is an absolute absurdity. The cognitive dissonance involved in accepting the punishment another human being with death, though totally innocent - is mind boggling!

Obviously, this totally at odds with your world view. This debate just swirls around in circles repeatedly. I'm just presenting the perspective of a lay Catholic on this subject - if you want a better explanation, go to a local parish an ask a priest to talk to you about this - he's far more educated about Catholic ethics an moral theology than I am.

Devote Catholics don't expect to be winning any popularity contests based on our views. I certainly don't, I just thought, it might be worthwhile expressing them - since so many people are willing to propose beliefs that we don't actually hold. I'm not trying to win this debate, it's clearly an impossibility; I'm not that gifted.

To me this is some stone age thing... I hope you guys get to open your eyes one day, rather the truth than a fairy tale.

 

[cytg111]

Seriously man, she consented "let it be done to me according to thy will". Also, the Holy Spirit was the 'father' in the case, and is a distinct person, within the Trinity, from the Son. Maybe get some of the basics right before yapping about it

So she was raped by a man person?

 

[MrSquished]

I was just giving an example. Intent is critical assessing culpability for example. Guess I chose my words poorly. The aborted fetus is denied life on purpose. That is the fundament matter in this debate. The miscarried fetus is denied life, but not intentionally so. That is the main difference. No one has the right to terminate the life of another. My church, and Christian churches as well, teach that life begins at the moment of conception - a human life. My church has already ruled (~200 years ago) that the matter of 'ensoulment' isn't germane to the legality of abortions. Abortion is the taking of a human life. Period, end of story. No one is responsible for the loss of a fetus due to miscarriage because there is not intent on any persons part (man or women). Whether or not a women intentionally became pregnant or not is also not germane to the topic - as no one has the right to take the life of the fetus. Does unintentional pregnancy result in serious stress for women - yes, absolutely; I do acknowledge that. Punishing the fetus for being conceived is an absolute absurdity. The cognitive dissonance involved in accepting the punishment another human being with death, though totally innocent - is mind boggling!

Obviously, this totally at odds with your world view. This debate just swirls around in circles repeatedly. I'm just presenting the perspective of a lay Catholic on this subject - if you want a better explanation, go to a local parish an ask a priest to talk to you about this - he's far more educated about Catholic ethics an moral theology than I am.

Devote Catholics don't expect to be winning any popularity contests based on our views. I certainly don't, I just thought, it might be worthwhile expressing them - since so many people are willing to propose beliefs that we don't actually hold. I'm not trying to win this debate, it's clearly an impossibility; I'm not that gifted.

And at the moment of conception, the woman's life and body becomes one of a vessel and has secondary rights. We know how you feel.

Motherhood is beautiful when it is voluntary, not when you want to force motherhood on every conception. We will never agree. The issue is you want to use force to impose your beliefs onto everyone else.

Don't you dare impose your fucking religion on society - and therein lies the problem. Religion is always trying to assert itself onto society and pretty much has always made things worse. Gays bad, sex bad, women are subservient, etc... Get your religion out of a sane and evolved society. If you don't want your teenager getting an abortion, then don't let her. If you are a god fearing woman, DON"T GET A FUCKING ABORTION. But if any adult age girl does not want motherhood forced upon her, or another teenager doesn't and her parents are fine with her not continuing the conception, then don't you dare force them to be mothers based upon your religion. Ever. It's just terrible and evil.

 

[dank69]

Generally speaking, republicans are conservative. Remember it was Abraham Lincoln who freed the slaves by raising them to the level of a true human being. They were demonized by the left and it took a conservative replublican to free them. Conservatives aim to preserve life with no other motive. So the notion that they allow for more abortions than any democratic candidate flies in the face of known evidence. And the evidence pool is HUGE.


Not true. 38 states recognize the rights of infants in the death chamber / woob as identical to those as people already having been born:

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A picture is not a source. Provide an actual source. You also ignored the second part of my post which explains why your anti-abortion stance is illogical even if we grant full rights to the zygote or fetus.

 

[pauldun170]

Storm Chaser took a break from chasing a Storm Front to pop in and share bits and pieces of all that wisdom they picked up from the stack of newsletters and pamphlets.

 

[pauldun170]

"Look everybody!!! I'm spreading the gospel on the internet!!"

 

[Storm-Chaser]

common, the moron actually said that covid is man made, lib made, bio weapon to bring about the end of the days and vaxxes were the mark of the beast.

Chinese Scientists Discussed Weaponising Coronavirus In 2015: Report (ndtv.com)
WHO inspector caught on camera revealing coronavirus manipulation in Wuhan before pandemic | Taiwan News | 2021-01-18 00:31:00
Documents Reveal Chinese Scientists Discussed Weaponising Coronavirus 5 Years Before Pandemic (news18.com)
China discussed weaponising coronaviruses before pandemic, predicted WW3 with bio-weapons (republicworld.com)

 

[ivwshane]

I was just giving an example. Intent is critical assessing culpability for example. Guess I chose my words poorly. The aborted fetus is denied life on purpose. That is the fundament matter in this debate. The miscarried fetus is denied life, but not intentionally so. That is the main difference. No one has the right to terminate the life of another. My church, and Christian churches as well, teach that life begins at the moment of conception - a human life. My church has already ruled (~200 years ago) that the matter of 'ensoulment' isn't germane to the legality of abortions. Abortion is the taking of a human life. Period, end of story. No one is responsible for the loss of a fetus due to miscarriage because there is not intent on any persons part (man or women). Whether or not a women intentionally became pregnant or not is also not germane to the topic - as no one has the right to take the life of the fetus. Does unintentional pregnancy result in serious stress for women - yes, absolutely; I do acknowledge that. Punishing the fetus for being conceived is an absolute absurdity. The cognitive dissonance involved in accepting the punishment another human being with death, though totally innocent - is mind boggling!

Obviously, this totally at odds with your world view. This debate just swirls around in circles repeatedly. I'm just presenting the perspective of a lay Catholic on this subject - if you want a better explanation, go to a local parish an ask a priest to talk to you about this - he's far more educated about Catholic ethics an moral theology than I am.

Devote Catholics don't expect to be winning any popularity contests based on our views. I certainly don't, I just thought, it might be worthwhile expressing them - since so many people are willing to propose beliefs that we don't actually hold. I'm not trying to win this debate, it's clearly an impossibility; I'm not that gifted.

You live in a fantasy world where there is a difference between a dead fetus due to natural causes and one that is aborted. There is no difference, it’s still dead. Intent only matters when it comes to criminal acts. So unless you also believe that women should be held criminally liable for an aborted fetus, intent is irrelevant. If you believe women should be held criminally liable then you are a bigger authoritarian than I first thought.

How do you propose to not only police such matters but what do you think the punishment should be?

What about pregnancies that endanger the woman? What rights does she have then? Does the birth of an unborn child supersede the life of the mother? What about seriously deformed or a fetus with serious medical issues? Do you also require that the child be born? Do you also require the mother to take care of their child in every circumstance? Or is a life in an adoption agency ok with you?

 

[K1052]

Not sure why someone decided to import their Facebook account here but I do wish they would stop.