Rant Scientists once again proven wrong about climate change

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Franz316

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Slowmind, you don't melt millions of years of ice in a decade. And you don't make a polar bears extinct in 15 years. The wheels are in motion for both of those to happen however. I'll forgive you since you appear to be brain damaged or intentionally ignorant. It's not like we don't know what the Earth was like when CO2 goes above 400ppm.. in the Pliocene the sea was 30 meters higher and it was a hot and humid world under similar levels to today.
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Hayabusa Rider

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Slowmind, you don't melt millions of years of ice in a decade. And you don't make a polar bears extinct in 15 years. The wheels are in motion for both of those to happen however. It's not like we don't know what the Earth was like when CO2 goes above 400ppm.. in the Pliocene the sea was 30 meters higher and it was a hot and humid world under similar levels to today.
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His purpose isn't to understand, it's to pick on Al Gore and troll people. He either is unable to unwilling to understand science but I applaud countering with facts, not for him for for those who aren't willfully ignorant.
 

Paratus

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Remember, the northern polar ice cap could completely disappear during summer months in five to seven years. Al Gore, 2006

Manbearpig is real.

Polar bears extinct by 2060! (2002)

Oh, wait... their population is climbing.


As I said, we can influence the climate and should take care, that doesn't mean the left isn't blowing this way out of proportion and using it as a scare tactic for votes. Because that's exactly what they're doing.
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Wasn’t awful as predictions go.
 

cytg111

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Remember, the northern polar ice cap could completely disappear during summer months in five to seven years. Al Gore, 2006

Manbearpig is real.

Polar bears extinct by 2060! (2002)

Oh, wait... their population is climbing.


As I said, we can influence the climate and should take care, that doesn't mean the left isn't blowing this way out of proportion and using it as a scare tactic for votes. Because that's exactly what they're doing.

From your linked "article"

"So when you hear, “Save the polar bears, their future is grim” next week, remember that polar bears are thriving right now because those future predictions were flawed: summer sea ice is not critical habitat for polar bea"

So even if the article is right ...... you are still wrong.
Best case of your argument : You are wrong.
Worst case of your argument : You are wrong.
I guess there is a reason you shouldnt represent yourself in court!
 

ch33zw1z

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From your linked "article"

"So when you hear, “Save the polar bears, their future is grim” next week, remember that polar bears are thriving right now because those future predictions were flawed: summer sea ice is not critical habitat for polar bea"

So even if the article is right ...... you are still wrong.
Best case of your argument : You are wrong.
Worst case of your argument : You are wrong.
I guess there is a reason you shouldnt represent yourself in court!

No way. He's a self proclaimed mental giant, and very stable too.
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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Thanks for the good laugh, Hayabusa. Al Gore is a talking tree!

Unfortunately the politicization of climate change is a result of the fact that it will take political action to help stop (or at least slow) man's abuse of our environment. What that entails is hard for everyone to agree on.

I think we do need to reign in the use of fossil fuels for one and stop using "clean" coal altogether. Sadly Im too addicted to cow meat to give it up though.

I award this post many wins, because it may be the first (and only?) time in AT history that FDC is not the most insane person participating in a thread.
 

BonzaiDuck

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Ummm . . . SlowSpyder behaves here as expected. The rest of you get an award for the most subtle notes of sarcasm that make it seem difficult to identify.

But, per the original post, why wouldn't there be more sea-ice in the Bering Sea, if more chunks of ice are breaking off the ice-cap due to climate change?

And anyone who thinks scientists promote their ideas or sense of understanding as a result of some socialistic obsession -- is totally nuts. Oh! It's all such a great Left-Wing plot! Thousands and thousands of people, conspiring together! Of those many thousands, did anyone ever come forward to confirm this great conspiracy? How could so many thousands of experts be so loyal to a socialist objective, when Trump's staff and affiliates turn on him as much as he turns on them? There, we're only talking about dozens or hundreds.
 
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SlowSpyder

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Slowmind, you don't melt millions of years of ice in a decade. And you don't make a polar bears extinct in 15 years. The wheels are in motion for both of those to happen however. I'll forgive you since you appear to be brain damaged or intentionally ignorant. It's not like we don't know what the Earth was like when CO2 goes above 400ppm.. in the Pliocene the sea was 30 meters higher and it was a hot and humid world under similar levels to today.
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Than you should tell the fear mongering leftist to stop claiming they'll be extinct in the very near future.
 

SlowSpyder

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Leftist climate change hypocrisy.

You guys are all the same on a smaller level. None of these measure add up to a hill of beans, as long as our population continues to explode, we're going to have problems. That is the root cause, banning drinking straws (LOL) and such are little more than feel good measures.
 

woolfe9998

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Leftist climate change hypocrisy.

You guys are all the same on a smaller level. None of these measure add up to a hill of beans, as long as our population continues to explode, we're going to have problems. That is the root cause, banning drinking straws (LOL) and such are little more than feel good measures.

Oh, there are many more significant measures which we can take than banning straws, but they're blocked on the federal level by the people you vote for. Banning straws can be done on a local level so we're doing what we can.
 

Jaskalas

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Than you should tell the fear mongering leftist to stop claiming they'll be extinct in the very near future.

If I told you there was a firee in a building, would you stamp your feet, scream at us that there is no such thing as a "firee" and then rush head long into said building? Besides the obvious flames and smoke billowing out the windows?

Your focus is on something ancillary and completely beside the point. Which is par the course for political arguments attempting to distract us away from the face of science. Yes, there are some ignorant "Leftists" who proclaim stupid things. And no we don't know everything. But the things WE DO KNOW are fairly concrete and not something you have attempted to dispute.

The exact timing and scale of some of the side effects are probably not 100% known or quantifiable. But the melting ice, the rising sea, and the warmer temperatures are quite clear. If nothing else, runaway CO2 would melt all ice on the planet. Everything not 216 feet above sea level would have a... problem. And if you think that's not problematic, please take a look.
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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If I told you there was a firee in a building, would you stamp your feet, scream at us that there is no such thing as a "firee" and then rush head long into said building? Besides the obvious flames and smoke billowing out the windows?

Your focus is on something ancillary and completely beside the point. Which is par the course for political arguments attempting to distract us away from the face of science. Yes, there are some ignorant "Leftists" who proclaim stupid things. And no we don't know everything. But the things WE DO KNOW are fairly concrete and not something you have attempted to dispute.

The exact timing and scale of some of the side effects are probably not 100% known or quantifiable. But the melting ice, the rising sea, and the warmer temperatures are quite clear. If nothing else, runaway CO2 would melt all ice on the planet. Everything not 216 feet above sea level would have a... problem. And if you think that's not problematic, please take a look.


He doesn't do science, at all.
 
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Remember when the left said polar bears would be extinct soon, but their population has exploded? Remember when Al Gore said in "An Inconvenient Truth" (2006) that polar ice could be gone in five years (still there) causing catastrophic sea level rise, and then went on to buy ocean front property? I am not saying man doesn't influence the climate and that we shouldn't care, we obviously can have an impact on the earth and environment we live, but as the left tends to do, most of their predictions are melodrama and scare tactics. Youtube is littered with climate change predictions of leftist scientists and politicians over the last four or five decades that have largely proven to be untrue.
you are such a stupid cvnt.
 

Moonbeam

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As a founding member of the Christian Scientist Polar Bear Counters Academy, I can assure you their numbers are skyrocketing.
 

UNCjigga

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Leftist climate change hypocrisy.

You guys are all the same on a smaller level. None of these measure add up to a hill of beans, as long as our population continues to explode, we're going to have problems. That is the root cause, banning drinking straws (LOL) and such are little more than feel good measures.

So legalized abortion is the answer. Thanks for supporting Planned Parenthood Slow, they appreciate your advocacy!!