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School suspends kid for voicing opinion in opposition to homosexuality

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shadow9d9 said:
One city out of the entire world happens to link something in order to get attention and it becomes the norm for you?

Wow.

Again, do you or do you not realize that heterosexuals also enjoy whips and leather?

Do you admit that being gay has absolutely nothing intrinsically to do with people liking attention from people who freak out over nothing, like you?
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I am not sure why people keep stating my position on homosexuality when I have never stated my opinion.
 
Patranus said:
I am not sure why people keep stating my position on homosexuality when I have never stated my opinion.
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You incorrectly are trying to link leather and whips to homosexuality as your premise for why sexuality should not be a protected status.

Please answer the question.
 
Patranus said:
You are taking this issue and turning this into something it isn't.

What you are saying is irrelevant to this discussion.

There was an open discussion at a public school and the student stated an opinion. The public employees at the public school then used their power to project their personal opinions onto the kid working as an extension of the government

That is the issue.
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Oh nonsense. That's not what happened at all. What happened is that a self appointed Bishop of the church came into a secular institution of learning and tried to impose his irrational belief as the only correct one. He had to be stopped because that's unconstitutional. See how easy it is to see things as they really are when you want to see exactly and only what you yourself have been programmed to believe.
 
shadow9d9 said:
Bullying is on the rise, and anti semetic, racial, anti gay rhetoric, etc is harmful to people. Children with less defensive mechanisms should be protected from harm, which includes verbal abuse on their person.
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Are you nuts? What rhetoric? The kid said he disapproved of something. He didn't say "Fags get out." What verbal abuse are you citing?
 
zsdersw said:
What differences are you putting in the category of "lifestyle"?
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Well, being in a sexual relationship, or a romantic relationship with someone of the same sex I can consider a difference in lifestyle, and the operative source of my disapproval.
 
Atreus21 said:
Uh, yeah there is a difference of lifestyle.
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You ignored the question as expected.

"I would invite you to also share your experiences when choosing whether to be gay or straight. Give plenty of evidence of your struggle between the 2."

Tell us about this "lifestyle" choice you had to make. you see, I never had to make one.

Get ready for the dodge or ignore people!
 
Moonbeam said:
Oh nonsense. That's not what happened at all. What happened is that a self appointed Bishop of the church came into a secular institution of learning and tried to impose his irrational belief as the only correct one. He had to be stopped because that's unconstitutional. See how easy it is to see things as they really are when you want to see exactly and only what you yourself have been programmed to believe.
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How was he trying to impose his views?
 
Atreus21 said:
I imagine I follow my own thread pretty well. Care to elaborate on what you think I missed?
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Funny how you skipped right over the previous response.

Third time is the charm! Then we could get back to this.

"I would invite you to also share your experiences when choosing whether to be gay or straight. Give plenty of evidence of your struggle between the 2."

Tell us about this "lifestyle" choice you had to make. you see, I never had to make one.

Get ready for the dodge or ignore people!
 
Atreus21 said:
Well, being in a sexual relationship, or a romantic relationship with someone of the same sex I can consider a difference in lifestyle, and the operative source of my disapproval.
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For you I wonder if the dog wags the tail or the tail wags the dog, so to speak. Does the disapproval create the notion that there's a difference in lifestyle or does that belief in a difference in lifestyle create the disapproval? I wonder...
 
shadow9d9 said:
Funny how you skipped right over the previous response.

Third time is the charm! Then we could get back to this.

"I would invite you to also share your experiences when choosing whether to be gay or straight. Give plenty of evidence of your struggle between the 2."

Tell us about this "lifestyle" choice you had to make. you see, I never had to make one.

Get ready for the dodge or ignore people!
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I saw your point earlier but didn't see how it was relevant. I never had a struggle to choose between the two.

Are you claiming that lifestyles aren't a matter of choice?
 
Atreus21 said:
I saw your point earlier but didn't see how it was relevant. I never had a struggle to choose between the two.

Are you claiming that lifestyles aren't a matter of choice?
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Correct.

YOU think that it is a matter of choice of lifestyle. Therefore, it is absolutely relevant.

You never had to struggle... but you did consider the choice, right? Even if you didn't "struggle", I would still love to hear about the time you came down to having to make a decision and what thought process you went through when arriving at your answer.
 
Atreus21 said:
So wait a second. It's called Hate Speech, even if there's no hate in the speech? Even disapproval is called Hate?
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Comprehension fail.

Patranus said:
So every time the "progressives" attack those "rich white people" that is "hate speech" and should be punished?
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Every time a student avocets for reparations in a history class discussion they should be suspended because that is "hate speech"?

Every time a student advocates for affirmative action in a discussion they should be suspended because that is "hare speech"?[/QUOTE]

I don't know who these people are or what you're referring to, so I can't answer.

Reparations? Affirmative action? Progressives? I don't know anything about these things, seem to be american politics terms...

hare speech tee hee
 
zsdersw said:
For you I wonder if the dog wags the tail or the tail wags the dog, so to speak. Does the disapproval create the notion that there's a difference in lifestyle or does that belief in a difference in lifestyle create the disapproval? I wonder...
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I've never really thought too deeply into it. I think it's the latter. Eddie Izzard (a seriously hilarious comedian) was up until recently a cross dresser who wore makeup, but was straight. I didn't disapprove of his lifestyle on any moral ground apart from his being an atheist (which is more just disagreement than disapproval).
 
Atreus21 said:
I saw your point earlier but didn't see how it was relevant. I never had a struggle to choose between the two.

Are you claiming that lifestyles aren't a matter of choice?
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Sexaul orientation OBVIOUSLY isn't a choice, and having a different sexual orientation from someone else doesn't mean you can't live the same lifestyle.

E.g.

Man A lives in London, works in a bank, lives in a london flat, goes out with his mates to the pub on a friday night, goes home to his partner.

Man B lives in London, works in a bank, lives in a london flat, goes out with his mates to the pub on a friday night, goes home to his partner.

Man A is straight, Man B is gay, no different lifestyle I see there...
 
HAL9000 said:
Sexaul orientation OBVIOUSLY isn't a choice, and having a different sexual orientation from someone else doesn't mean you can't live the same lifestyle.

E.g.

Man A lives in London, works in a bank, lives in a london flat, goes out with his mates to the pub on a friday night, goes home to his partner.

Man B lives in London, works in a bank, lives in a london flat, goes out with his mates to the pub on a friday night, goes home to his partner.

Man A is straight, Man B is gay, no different lifestyle I see there...
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"Lifestyle choice" is code for being gay is a choice. In america, that is.
 
shadow9d9 said:
Correct.

YOU think that it is a matter of choice of lifestyle. Therefore, it is absolutely relevant.

You never had to struggle... but you did consider the choice, right? Even if you didn't "struggle", I would still love to hear about the time you came down to having to make a decision and what thought process you went through when arriving at your answer.
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Whatever reasons exist for their lifestyle, I think it is immoral for two people of the same gender to have sex. Even if that is beyond their means to control, I don't throw away the rule to account for the exceptions.
 
HAL9000 said:
I see, well in that case, Americans have gotten confused about what a lifestyle is and what a sexual orientation is.
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A large portion of americans are backwards and still cling to the idea that being gay is a choice... so they can ratioanlize their hate and fear of it... it is much easier to justify hate of something that people choose as opposed to what they are born as. It is essentially the newer way to be a bigot while feeling like they aren't.
 
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