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Lifer
- Jun 5, 2000
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But that was a reasonable response to the problem. I'm guessing the net sends were a class disruption. Your teacher gave a suitable warning and the punishment was fit to the crime.
Such a horrible situation.
It's pretty sad when it's very common for the typical kid/teen to be more proficient in computers than most adults (teachers), and instead of embracing that and teaching kids in school more about computers, they get floored and suspended for it instead.
My solution: Open up a small, dedicated computer lab for a computer class. Hire a teacher for this class that is proficient in computers. Have the class be like an open forum, where teachers and students can show eachother tips and tricks. Let them learn from eachother and use computers for exactly what they're designed for and capable of, as long as it's within a few basic restraints. (No blatant illegal crap or script kiddie nonsense.)
Every computer class I ever took in High School was the same junk. They explained how to format spreadsheets and text documents, or explained the very basics of computers like opening files, then renaming them, followed by saving our formatted text document in them. Then in our "computer lab" they had three old women who looked to be about, 50 or 60 million years old, patrolling around. Diving on any kid who had anything besides Word or Excel open.
It's pretty sad when it's very common for the typical kid/teen to be more proficient in computers than most adults (teachers), and instead of embracing that and teaching kids in school more about computers, they get floored and suspended for it instead.
My solution: Open up a small, dedicated computer lab for a computer class. Hire a teacher for this class that is proficient in computers. Have the class be like an open forum, where teachers and students can show eachother tips and tricks. Let them learn from eachother and use computers for exactly what they're designed for and capable of, as long as it's within a few basic restraints. (No blatant illegal crap or script kiddie nonsense.)
Every computer class I ever took in High School was the same junk. They explained how to format spreadsheets and text documents, or explained the very basics of computers like opening files, then renaming them, followed by saving our formatted text document in them. Then in our "computer lab" they had three old women who looked to be about, 50 or 60 million years old, patrolling around. Diving on any kid who had anything besides Word or Excel open.
The problem is that anyone that is bright enough to teach and understand the subject matter is bright enough to get a job that pays more with a lot less bullshit. Many teachers teach because they love the profession. But many are there because they are/were underperformers in other fields.
Okay, this is just sad and disgusting! Thankfully my education was never like that. We never had networks in my gradeschool, and in my highschool had some competent and cool profs to go along with them. Hee, nothing like having a game of quake on the school system after hours and splattering your teacher all over the map. Well, when he wasn't doing the same to you.
Heck, if using Netsend can get you suspended for 3 days now, I have a friend that would have been not only expelled but physically tossed out the front door for some of the abuse he heeped on the systems in our latter years of highschool. Never got any suspensions or warnings for it, either. Of course he was more competent the what we had for a systems group at the time, so they kind of needed him around...
-- Jack
For a long time it puzzled me how something so expensive, so leading edge, could be so useless, and then it occurred to me that a computer is a stupid machine with the ability to do incredibly smart things, while computer programmers are smart people with the ability to do incredibly stupid things. They are, in short, a perfect match.
-- Bill Bryson
Heck, if using Netsend can get you suspended for 3 days now, I have a friend that would have been not only expelled but physically tossed out the front door for some of the abuse he heeped on the systems in our latter years of highschool. Never got any suspensions or warnings for it, either. Of course he was more competent the what we had for a systems group at the time, so they kind of needed him around...
-- Jack
For a long time it puzzled me how something so expensive, so leading edge, could be so useless, and then it occurred to me that a computer is a stupid machine with the ability to do incredibly smart things, while computer programmers are smart people with the ability to do incredibly stupid things. They are, in short, a perfect match.
-- Bill Bryson
AMCRambler
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- Jan 23, 2001
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Negative feedback sent! Her heatware is now at - eleventy billion
I almost got in trouble for the same exact thing... Good thing the computer teachers in my high school new nothing about computers.
neutralizer
Lifer
- Oct 4, 2001
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Nope, my school uses DeepFreeze on networked comps. Like the comp, I'm posting from right now. And they disabled Novell messaging and command prompt. Damn... the techies here are thorough.
perhaps the computer teacher who insisted on busting this kid needs to learn her services and which ones do what.
then voila! no more net send hacking.
then voila! no more net send hacking.
johnjohn320
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- Jan 9, 2001
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Wow, some people are really ignorant. "Those who can't do, teach"? So sad that people feel that way. I'm not saying there aren't bad teachers out there, but wow. Someone who sits at a desk and reads emails and goes to meetings about finances (not saying that's you necessarily) think that what they do is so much more respectable than someone who has to teach.
Heh I actually did something simaller to my school but I got kick off for 3 weeks. I used Novells version of net send? They still had it active, sent the Entire District Die Phuckers and 3 periods later the link to www.youdontknowwhoiam.org (DONT GO THEIR!). I got kicked off the computer for three weeks and thats about it 
Zenmervolt
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- Oct 22, 2000
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For teaching FrontPage and HyperStudio alone she should lose her job.
Every time I see another HS website, I am increasingly proud of the job done by a bunch of farm kids for my district's website. http://www.a-wayne.k12.oh.us/
ZV
Jadow
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- Feb 12, 2003
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back in HS, my friend and I figured out this one girls's network password (this is old school, like 1994) and logged into her account. We went into one of her word docs, where she wrote a poem about her boyfriend for creative writing class. We did edit/replace and replaced his name "Ryan" with the word "Cocaine"
So her poem was like "I Love cocaine", "Cocaine makes me feel good inside.."
She actually turned the file in without re-reading it.
The sh*t really hit the fan on that one, but it was worth it.
So her poem was like "I Love cocaine", "Cocaine makes me feel good inside.."
She actually turned the file in without re-reading it.
The sh*t really hit the fan on that one, but it was worth it.
You think HyperSTUDIO is bad? We had that in gradeschool. At my highschool (highschool rocks, but our computer classes are a pathetic afterthought. I learn more on my own, anyway.) they teach the freshymons HyperCARD!!!
Now THAT is obsolete. It has basic, basic, ubersimple coding in it, but thats about it. No value. There are also C and C++ and Java classes, but they are just intros and have no real content. Oh well.
I went to a website about Linux on SUn systems, supposedly there was a virus warning...they said I was trying to hack into the system and was using key loggers, Are retarded tech lady at Kerr High School Houston Texas, Gwen CharlaWhoddyHahafatttyfattytwobyfourcantgetthroughthebathroomdoor Couldnt even read, the webpage clearly said, if you got a message about a virus warning it is false, please refer to these websites, which were symantex and mcaffe declaring it a false alert...I got suspended for a day and banned computer privelages. THe problem today is either idiots in administration, or women who know nothing as tech people. I'm not saying all women, but in a generality women lack the problem solving skills that men have to figure things out. Of course men lack things that women have as well.
We need better educated people teaching, to many morons with shoddy ba's are in the classrooms with no teaching experiance or training worth a flip.
We need better educated people teaching, to many morons with shoddy ba's are in the classrooms with no teaching experiance or training worth a flip.
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