School suspends 13 y.o. for 3 days for IM'ing "Hey!", they call it hacking

[kalster]

Originally posted by: conjur
NET SEND is hacking?!?!?

wtf, i used to do this in lab all the time

 

[Schadenfroh]

meh, a guy at the junior college did something like this, sent out 2 messages to every computer on campus, by accident. they did not do anything to him, but its funny how he conffessed if anyone wants to hear it

 

[kami333]

I wonder what the penalty for using the school's intercom system and saying "hey" is. Because that's all he really did. Yes, he inappropriately used school equipement and should be punished for that, but it's not like he circumvented any security measures and he didn't cause any damage.

 

[amdskip]

I sent the principal an email, we'll see if he responds

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: amdskip
I sent the principal an email, we'll see if he responds

Contents?!?!?!?

 

[Danman]

Me and my friend got wrote up for that. He got suspended for a day and I got detention. That was in 9th grade though.

 

[ISAslot]

Reminds me when I got 3 saturday detentions in highschool for placing scripts on a ramdrive on one of library terminals.

 

[flot]

Very easy to find the email addresses of the people who work at that school.

 

[Francodman]

Back in my senior year in highschool in my calc class (which is hte same room that they teach computer programming) I was on the computer just messin' around. At my school we have Novell networking where we login to our accounts to access papers, etc. Well, Novell also has a messaging service built in... and at first i was messagin' people that were logged in with the usual "hey what's up".

Then I got a lil mischeivous and mass-messaged everyone on the network in the school. (Luckily I didn't mass-message everyone in the district network ) Anyway, i wrote "help somebody! i'm stuck in the air vents. Someone please help!"

Well the computer lab teacher got the message and actually thought someone was in the vents and informed the principal. Yeah lady, someone stuck in the vents...with a laptop tapped into the network.. dumbsh!t

Anyway i got a slap on the wrist and I had to write an apology letter to the computer lab attendant.

 

[tm37]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: conjur
NET SEND is hacking?!?!?

My God, at least they didn't throw the kid in jail and threaten to keep him there for 120 years and want $815,000 for that message.

Then again he only sent a net send it's not like he ran around and installed unauthorized software on the schools computers

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Did any of you actually read the article? You do realize he had no prior authorization to use the school's computers/network in such a manner, right? Therefore, he deserves exactly what he got. It may be a "harmless little prank" but the point is that he broke the rules and now he has to pay the price. Good lesson for a kid his age to learn, if you ask me...

edited for spelling

I certainly did.

He also had no prior authorization to breathe in class. Suspend him.

There were no rules forbidding him from doing a net send, so there shouldn't be a problem with him doing it.

 

[MrYogi]

At first, Principal Tommy Rollins didn't think much of it. "I saw it," he said. "It didn't say who it came from. I just deleted it."

OMG OMG
He deleted the message.

net send principal You belong to 320 B.C. Please go back <enter>

 

[Pex]

back in my high school we used to net send a lot, and the teacher said if we net send again we will get a detention.

 

[flot]

I'm happy to say I actually took the time to email the principal and the teacher in question. I did all kinds of dumb obnoxious things like this as a kid, and was lucky enough to have people willing to take the time to explain to my why they were wrong, rather than throw me out of school.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Did any of you actually read the article? You do realize he had no prior authorization to use the school's computers/network in such a manner, right? Therefore, he deserves exactly what he got. It may be a "harmless little prank" but the point is that he broke the rules and now he has to pay the price. Good lesson for a kid his age to learn, if you ask me...

edited for spelling

Did you read the article? There WAS NO RULE! I'm sorry, but there was no justification for a three day suspension. This case lacks any parity between the offense and the punishment.

ZV

 

[EyeMWing]

net send is a common trap used by sysadmins and bored administrators to punish wannabe-geeks. The problem would be totally avoided if the admins disabled the service, but it's all a power trip for them.

This kid in my CS class got suspended for net send - but the computer teachers literally do not care and let him use whatever he wants. I'm grateful to have so many people willing to risk their careers if I get fscked up the butt by these idiots (it almost happened once - I was servicing a computer and an administrator walked in)

I wish they'd fscking suspend the wankers that change the screensavers and wallpaper. I spent an hour today undoing cosmetic settings on 23 machines. If they don't start suspending them, I'm going to start ass-walloping them and suspending their accounts - they can fail their damn CAD class for all I care. I just take care of the computers.

 

[djplayx714]

Originally posted by: Citrix
damn! we have her name, lets educate her on real hacking.

:beer:

 

[PowerMacG5]

Originally posted by: Francodman
Back in my senior year in highschool in my calc class (which is hte same room that they teach computer programming) I was on the computer just messin' around. At my school we have Novell networking where we login to our accounts to access papers, etc. Well, Novell also has a messaging service built in... and at first i was messagin' people that were logged in with the usual "hey what's up".

Then I got a lil mischeivous and mass-messaged everyone on the network in the school. (Luckily I didn't mass-message everyone in the district network ) Anyway, i wrote "help somebody! i'm stuck in the air vents. Someone please help!"

Well the computer lab teacher got the message and actually thought someone was in the vents and informed the principal. Yeah lady, someone stuck in the vents...with a laptop tapped into the network.. dumbsh!t

Anyway i got a slap on the wrist and I had to write an apology letter to the computer lab attendant.

Bwahahaha.

 

[tm37]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: Flyermax2k3
Did any of you actually read the article? You do realize he had no prior authorization to use the school's computers/network in such a manner, right? Therefore, he deserves exactly what he got. It may be a "harmless little prank" but the point is that he broke the rules and now he has to pay the price. Good lesson for a kid his age to learn, if you ask me...

edited for spelling

Did you read the article? There WAS NO RULE! I'm sorry, but there was no justification for a three day suspension. This case lacks any parity between the offense and the punishment.

ZV

Thant is the longest psot I have ever seen you make :beer: cheers!

 

[jazzhound]

The first problem here is that Sweeney, a computer teacher, apparently doesn't understand the term hacking....

How embarrassing.

 

HES A HACKER!
PUT HIM IN JAIL!!!!!

 

[arcas]

You have to admit, teachers aren't the brightest people coming out of college. Around here, a new-hire teacher might earn $25k per year and is required to obtain a masters degree within 5 years. How many people go through 4 years of college with the intent of landing a $25k/year job with the added understanding that in order to keep that job, they'll have to go back to school for 2 more years to complete their masters degree?

The brightest and, unfortunately, most qualified individuals tend to choose non-teaching-related majors and accept far-higher-paying non-teaching positions when they leave college. That leaves the school systems to, in essence, scrape the bottom of the barrel for new hires.

 

[Descartes]

You have to understand, laymen think that anyone doing anything on a computer that they don't understand constitutes hacking. How many computer pundits are going to teach computers at a bloody middle school? Not many.

 

[Indolent]

Originally posted by: arcas
You have to admit, teachers aren't the brightest people coming out of college. Around here, a new-hire teacher might earn $25k per year and is required to obtain a masters degree within 5 years. How many people go through 4 years of college with the intent of landing a $25k/year job with the added understanding that in order to keep that job, they'll have to go back to school for 2 more years to complete their masters degree?

The brightest and, unfortunately, most qualified individuals tend to choose non-teaching-related majors and accept far-higher-paying non-teaching positions when they leave college. That leaves the school systems to, in essence, scrape the bottom of the barrel for new hires.

Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach.

 

[Shawn]

haha cool. i didn't even kno net send existed. I just typed it in on command prompt and it told me how to use it. woohoo this is fun! haha........