Commodus
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It's just as well, though... given Giulani's incompetence, he'd probably get life in prison if he decided to represent himself.
It's just as well, though... given Giulani's incompetence, he'd probably get life in prison if he decided to represent himself.
Not quite. He deflected, saying he hadn't seen the whistle blower report.
I figure he knows he's screwed.
Fanatical Meat
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50% by House appointee and 50% by Senate appointee.
I believe their job is to essentially agree upon who the work gets sub’d out to.
House Controls the purse they could just hire contractors to help the Sergeant at Arms.
K1052
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When the deflection implicitly asserts that he doesn't know anything about the call that's close enough to a lie. Especially when he turns around an goes all in on the conspiracy theory gibberish the president loves. This is not an honest person.
Hayabusa Rider
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It seems that the House is done dancing with Pompeo and his talk.
Subpoenas planned for WH documents related to Ukraine
Pompeo now has little room. He can, of course, say anything he pleases and if he wants to buck subpoenas from a formal impeachment inquiry but he in effected got what he asked for, an official Constitutional demand.
It is possible although unlikely that Pompeo is relieved to be ordered to comply in this way as "I did what is required by the Constitution and legal precedent", and has a defense against "rolling over" accusations.
Subpoenas planned for WH documents related to Ukraine
Pompeo now has little room. He can, of course, say anything he pleases and if he wants to buck subpoenas from a formal impeachment inquiry but he in effected got what he asked for, an official Constitutional demand.
It is possible although unlikely that Pompeo is relieved to be ordered to comply in this way as "I did what is required by the Constitution and legal precedent", and has a defense against "rolling over" accusations.
Conor Friedersdorf had an interesting piece on the Ukraine request and the potential liability for Ivanka, Don Jr., and Eric.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...uption/599176/
I have to admit that I never thought my ethics were so situational, but if Republicans insist the Ukraine call was "perfect," I guess I look forward to President Warren/Biden using the awesome power of the Federal Government to pressure all our allies to find evidence of money laundering by the Trump Organization.
Psssst, they can start looking at the Trump Organization's Kazakh connections...
The call was “perfect” in the sense that there was no static on the line, it didn’t drop due to a poor connection, nobody missed a crucial statement because the other guy was going through a tunnel, that sort of thing.
When Trump talks, anything associated with himself is "perfect," just as a verbal tick he can't stop doing. If he walks down the hall, the carpeting is "magnificent"; if he turns on a light, the switch is the most amazing invention; if he takes a shit, the smell and toilet water is "perfect."
He can't stop himself from talking like this. It comes from a lifetime of talking like a snake oil salesman; it's deeply ingrained behavior.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...uption/599176/
I have to admit that I never thought my ethics were so situational, but if Republicans insist the Ukraine call was "perfect," I guess I look forward to President Warren/Biden using the awesome power of the Federal Government to pressure all our allies to find evidence of money laundering by the Trump Organization.
Psssst, they can start looking at the Trump Organization's Kazakh connections...
The call was “perfect” in the sense that there was no static on the line, it didn’t drop due to a poor connection, nobody missed a crucial statement because the other guy was going through a tunnel, that sort of thing.
When Trump talks, anything associated with himself is "perfect," just as a verbal tick he can't stop doing. If he walks down the hall, the carpeting is "magnificent"; if he turns on a light, the switch is the most amazing invention; if he takes a shit, the smell and toilet water is "perfect."
He can't stop himself from talking like this. It comes from a lifetime of talking like a snake oil salesman; it's deeply ingrained behavior.
K1052
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If Kobach would be so kind as to lose the GOP a senate seat that would be great.
zinfamous
No Lifer
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and obviously no toothpaste or soap, a single shit bucket for all of the GOP swamp creatures. Can't afford more than that.
MomentsofSanity
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Looks like part of the reason the IG wanted to meet with Congress is Pompeo asked if they could discipline anyone who cooperated with Congress in any investigation.
woolfe9998
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Probably not react much at all until it becomes a majority in their own states or districts. Which means it likely will have to be at least 55% nationally, probably a bit more than that.
The increase we've seen so far is likely the low hanging statistical fruit. It's people who already hated Trump but were iffy about impeachment because they agreed with Pelosi that it would be politically perilous for the dems next year. Now that Pelosi has started the process, there is no point in not getting behind it. That's what the uptick represents. It's pretty obvious when you consider that Trump's disapproval rating is around 52% that all these people who have changed their minds were already against Trump.
I doubt we'll see much more movement unless or until there's new information which makes this considerably more damning than it already is.
If that is accurate good lord, how dumb can these folks be? Pompeo is supposedly one of the smarter ones.
woolfe9998
Lifer
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dainthomas
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It's a bit striking that 90% of the people who disapprove of trump now think he should be impeached, if that's a true 1:1 corollary. I mean I'm not surprised given the state of things, it's just nuts to think of that. I figure even Nixon had a greater disparity between people who didn't like him and people who thought he should be impeached/indicted.
MomentsofSanity
Lifer
- Jan 25, 2011
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I love how as he keeps talking, the little stock ticker keeps going down. Reminds me of this scene in fun with dick and jane:
K1052
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Ok Trump has accused Schiff of writing the whistleblower complaint.
MomentsofSanity
Lifer
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Finally have a link I can use here. Took longer than I thought to be confirmed. Now on multiple reputable sources in the last hour.
IG will brief lawmakers on 'retaliation' faced by State Department officials who work with Congress: report
The State Department's Inspector General is reportedly going to inform members of Congress that State Deparment officials have been threatened with potential retaliation if they agree to work with Congress on its impeachment inquiry.PBS News' Yamiche Alcindor reports that "the State Department...
www.rawstory.com
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Fanatical Meat
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Are any of these guys under any obligation to report this?
I have a feeling they are not but I’m no expert either.
One thing I wonder if Trump might be trying to do here is to drag Pence down with him to up the stakes for Republican Senators. ie: 'if I go down, Pence goes down with me, leaving you with President Pelosi.'
I also wonder how Mike Pence feels about this, haha.
K1052
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I suppose yes if one considered their oath of office to be an obligation. I think the framers saw it that way.
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