Schiff Issues Subpoena for Whistleblower Complaint Being Unlawfully Withheld

[pcgeek11]

Republicans and Democrats both are playing a dangerous game. I guarantee you the bulk of Republican politicians do not like or want Trump. Both are colluding to keep him in office. Democrats because they fear the uncertain political effects of impeachment, uncertain effects of destabilizing Trump further, and are feeling comfortable about their numbers heading into election. Republicans because they realize none is currently electable going against Trump and don't know what would be left of the party if they actually try and eject him.

Then the consensus is that we are totally screwed.

 

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Then the consensus is that we are totally screwed.

Trump won't last forever, one way or another. If it is another year and some change, then return to same so be it. Even if America fractures under his rule, we may yet recover spectacularly. It did not take too long, with a broad enough viewpoint, for Germany to recover from Hitler. Clearly overt evil, genocide, erasure of institutions, etc. does not portend demise. Within America remains a value of freedom and culture with a desire to work together even if it is blocked from operation in the present.

I just hope the planet has more reserve than some predictions say.

 

[Jhhnn]

If the democrats believe so much that he should be impeached and is guilty as claimed on the forum, she ( Pelosi) should do her job and impeach him. It does not matter what the Senate will or won't do.

Yeh, I'm sure Trump could clear his name just by giving Congress what the law & the Constitution demands he give them. An innocent man has nothing to hide, right?

 

[Jhhnn]

Trump won't last forever, one way or another. If it is another year and some change, then return to same so be it. Even if America fractures under his rule, we may yet recover spectacularly. It did not take too long, with a broad enough viewpoint, for Germany to recover from Hitler. Clearly overt evil, genocide, erasure of institutions, etc. does not portend demise. Within America remains a value of freedom and culture with a desire to work together even if it is blocked from operation in the present.

I just hope the planet has more reserve than some predictions say.

Fuck you, Libtard! Hail Trump! May he rule for the rest of his days & his descendants after him!

 

[Zorba]

Every day that goes by, Trump is using more and more of that rope that in part Pelosi gave him to hang himself. A good and bad thing like much of what's happening with this impeach or not to impeach imbroglio going on at the moment. This Ukraine situation is just more of the same from Trump who seems to not suffer at all from his stupidity, his willingness to break laws.

One could argue either way that time is or is not on Trump's side as far as his being ultimately held accountable for his crimes.

The side issues that have cropped up on both sides of the aisle that seem to carry more priority over actually making Trump pay for his crimes is something that is IMO working more against the Dems than it is to the Repubs simply for the fact that the infighting among the Dems up on the Hill over this makes the Dems look divided (they actually are), ineffectual (for the time being) and unable to make the hard choices when under pressure (as it now looks).

The Repubs on the other hand simply have to sit back and have Trump dodge, dash, obstruct and violate laws at his leisure in order to make the Dems look like they're running around in circles trying to put out the fires on each other's butts rather than unifying and going directly at the cause of their problem.

Something's gotta give on the Dems's side and soon.

Dem's have always been wusses in congress, see the Iraq authorization and the Reagan years. They need to grow some balls an impeach Trump and all his sycophants on a long list of charges.

If Trump gets reelected the dems will lose the house and they are going to have a hard time getting it back calming to fight Trump in 2022 when they aren't doing anything now.

 

[theeedude]

Republicans don't get that their party's total corruption is hurting them first and foremost, and it's only going to get worse for them.

 

[Sunburn74]

If the democrats believe so much that he should be impeached and is guilty as claimed on the forum, she ( Pelosi) should do her job and impeach him. It does not matter what the Senate will or won't do.

I agree. Let the facts come out during the impeachment process.

 

[HomerJS]

How about starting by arresting all those in contempt of Congress

 

[Moonbeam]

Well I hadn't put any specific thought into that choice of words, which is why I think the result is of the actual interest you point out. At first I was going to profess no special awareness as "dangerous game" is not too uncommon a saying.

But you are right. The right thing is staring everyone in the face. The thinking and game playing is what prevents us from striving for it.

I think that speaks to the principles America was founded upon. There did not need to be intellectual analysis to recognize that liberty was worth fighting for. Today, instead of a felt thing, recognizing liberty is an intellectual task which we insist stems from formal education. Wouldst only our hearts yearn for liberty again.

This post sounds solid to me. Maybe for instance:

"We hold these truths to be self evident................."

 

[JEDIYoda]

Well I hadn't put any specific thought into that choice of words, which is why I think the result is of the actual interest you point out. At first I was going to profess no special awareness as "dangerous game" is not too uncommon a saying.

But you are right. The right thing is staring everyone in the face. The thinking and game playing is what prevents us from striving for it.

I think that speaks to the principles America was founded upon. There did not need to be intellectual analysis to recognize that liberty was worth fighting for. Today, instead of a felt thing, recognizing liberty is an intellectual task which we insist stems from formal education. Wouldst only our hearts yearn for liberty again.

On these forum people are more interested in holding onto their guns than fighting for Liberty! I would even bet that 99% of these gun owners would run and hide if they were asked to actually join a well regulated militia and fight for their Liberty!!

 

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On these forum people are more interested in holding onto their guns than fighting for Liberty! I would even bet that 99% of these gun owners would run and hide if they were asked to actually join a well regulated militia and fight for their Liberty!!

There are many ways to fight for something other than the brandishing of weapons in revolution.

 

[cytg111]

Can someone explain to me how this whistle blower report got to the WH in the first place? If I understand it correctly its not supposed to. You cant very well have the person(s) you are blowing the whistle on handle the report against him(s)... So why was the WH briefed on this? (sounds like corruption to me...)

 

[JSt0rm]

(sounds like corruption to me...)

it was corruption

 

[JSt0rm]

Then the consensus is that we are totally screwed.

as long as retards like you vote trump yes.

 

[pcgeek11]

On these forum people are more interested in holding onto their guns than fighting for Liberty! I would even bet that 99% of these gun owners would run and hide if they were asked to actually join a well regulated militia and fight for their Liberty!!

Many 2nd amendment advocates have already joined a well regulated militia and fought at the behest of our country.

 

[esquared]

Can someone explain to me how this whistle blower report got to the WH in the first place? If I understand it correctly its not supposed to. You cant very well have the person(s) you are blowing the whistle on handle the report against him(s)... So why was the WH briefed on this? (sounds like corruption to me...)

a) The August whistleblower report went from the Inspector General (intelligence community) to the acting DNI.
b)The acting DNI (Maguire) missed his deadline to issue a report to Congress (its known later, that the DNI talked to the DOJ.
Barr is trumps guy, so cheeto probably would have known by this Sept 2 date or earlier.)
c) Since the acting DNI didn't issue a report to Congress the IG (Atkinson) alerted Congress of this, and they started a probe
on the whistleblower's complaint. So for sure the WH would know at this point.

Here is the timeline from the Hill's article.

Timeline: The Trump whistleblower complaint

President Trump’s administration was rocked this week by news of a whistleblower complaint filed early last month that detailed a troubling conversation Trump had with another world leader, r…

thehill.com

 

[Indus]

I find myself agreeing with this guy

https://twitter.com/x/status/1175887226439438336

Who was it who defended Pelosi again???

 

[JEDIYoda]

Many 2nd amendment advocates have already joined a well regulated militia and fought at the behest of our country.

Nowhere in the 2nd amendment does it say imply or say that military service exempt those people who have served from being called upon to join a well regulated militia!! So your point is actually not a point!! There are responsibilities that go with owning a gun and one of them is to be used to join a well regulated militia to fight if called upon!!

 

[cytg111]

a) The August whistleblower report went from the Inspector General (intelligence community) to the acting DNI.
b)The acting DNI (Maguire) missed his deadline to issue a report to Congress (its known later, that the DNI talked to the DOJ.
Barr is trumps guy, so cheeto probably would have known by this Sept 2 date or earlier.)
c) Since the acting DNI didn't issue a report to Congress the IG (Atkinson) alerted Congress of this, and they started a probe
on the whistleblower's complaint. So for sure the WH would know at this point.

Here is the timeline from the Hill's article.

Timeline: The Trump whistleblower complaint

President Trump’s administration was rocked this week by news of a whistleblower complaint filed early last month that detailed a troubling conversation Trump had with another world leader, r…

thehill.com

So Maguire should be subject of investigation?

 

[cytg111]

I find myself agreeing with this guy

https://twitter.com/x/status/1175887226439438336

Who was it who defended Pelosi again???

Do they have to impeach Pelosi first?

 

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The more Trump says the more he weakens any argument for privilege. I am certain playing keep away from court is part of the strategy, though.

 

[cytg111]

Is this the 5th Avenue moment?

 

[HomerJS]

Can someone explain to me how this whistle blower report got to the WH in the first place? If I understand it correctly its not supposed to. You cant very well have the person(s) you are blowing the whistle on handle the report against him(s)... So why was the WH briefed on this? (sounds like corruption to me...)

Acting DNI took it to the Justice Department. Barr wrote up some bullshit as an excuse not to take complaint to Congress, as the law prescribes.

 

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I was just thinking about the whole executive privilege thing here. It's my understanding that it is up to the White House to assert that privilege. This troubles me here. The DNI is not Trump nor White House Counsel. What I imagine ought to have happened here is for him to have produced the report on time as required by law and notify the White House that potentially privileged content is about to be delivered to Congress. It would then be the White House's job to assert privilege, and I believe that presents a direct legal path to challenge this assertion. By assuming it was his job to make this determination and to consult with DOJ on this matter, the acting DNI has put us in a very bad place. I think Congress should act immediately to arrest.

 

[cytg111]

Acting DNI took it to the Justice Department. Barr wrote up some bullshit as an excuse not to take complaint to Congress, as the law prescribes.

So Acting DNI crimed. Right?