Schiff Issues Subpoena for Whistleblower Complaint Being Unlawfully Withheld

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pcgeek11

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Maybe we would know more about you if you would stop being so super secret about it...lol.

Why doesn't anything happen? You'll have to take that up with #MoscowMitch and #LeningradLindsay

Nobody is buying your "huh? Whuh?" routine.


Why did you leave out Pelosi?
 

Moonbeam

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Lying is a cooperative act. Trump wins because he offers a victory the rest of the world does not. All you need to win is believe the lie. Really, no one is better at it. For anyone with a conscience, it's damn near impossible to replicate.
I believe the story of Midas can shed some light here. Filling the void in the soul the the way of our Golden President simply leads to self destruction. The hole in the soul is not about MAGA, but the unconscious morning of the loss of ones own self respect. A treasure house of gold can never fill a heart that fears love. We will always kill the goose that lays the golden egg. We needed the love of those who destroyed us and we will not break those chains. We come like the moth to a flame for another beating, and always, it's the fault of somebody else.
 

pcgeek11

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You have to be a frreaking idiot!!! Or dumber than shit!!!


Sorry, but your impotent insults do not work on me.

You tell me then. Why did He leave out Pelosi... It starts with the House. She is in charge of the House.

He is guilty as hell, Lets do this!
 

Indus

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lol, you're living it.

every...single...minute.
More like he is loving it. Every single minute.

Why? Because Nancy Pelosi thinks you can simply vote him out. She is dumb as fuck.

There is no single example on this earth where fascists have given up power by losing an election. Instead they claim victory due to violence and vitriol and voting fraud.

If you really want Trump out you will have to pay the price in a bloody revolution. Are you willing?

Pcgeek doesn't think so and that's why he is loving it. Every fucking moment.
 
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Yeah and my issues dont include paying $800 a month in student debt for 27 years. Im lucky.


also whats with you boomers and chasing me around the forums shitting up threads with your entitlement? Fuck off.

My entitlement? Nice one. Please, feel frre to tell me what my entitlement is. I work and pay my bills just like you and I've never done anything in my life that would affect your life in any way whatsoever.

As I said, you seem to have issues. I've personally found that when that is the case one really is better off dealing with them. <shrug>
 

JEDIYoda

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Sorry, but your impotent insults do not work on me.

You tell me then. Why did He leave out Pelosi... It starts with the House. She is in charge of the House.

He is guilty as hell, Lets do this!
What exactly do yoo believe that Pelosi can do? Is she hamstrung by the Senate?
Or are you just doubling down on this idiot thing??
 

JSt0rm

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My entitlement? Nice one. Please, feel frre to tell me what my entitlement is. I work and pay my bills just like you and I've never done anything in my life that would affect your life in any way whatsoever.

As I said, you seem to have issues. I've personally found that when that is the case one really is better off dealing with them. <shrug>

well you are Canadian so you are probably right. My beef is with american boomers. They cooked the system.
 
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well you are Canadian so you are probably right. My beef is with american boomers. They cooked the system.

Like the college Freedom Riders in the 60s? Like the anti war protestors in the 60s and 70s? Like the people promoting equality for women in the 60s and 70s (and on)? The anti Reagan activists in the 80s? Truly disgusting people I'm sure.

Hey, you want to paint with a wide brush, feel free. But it's not the brightest thing that you'll ever do. Take a couple of seconds to think about how societies actually work.
 

ivwshane

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Like the college Freedom Riders in the 60s? Like the anti war protestors in the 60s and 70s? Like the people promoting equality for women in the 60s and 70s (and on)? The anti Reagan activists in the 80s? Truly disgusting people I'm sure.

Hey, you want to paint with a wide brush, feel free. But it's not the brightest thing that you'll ever do. Take a couple of seconds to think about how societies actually work.

Its funny how you stopped at the eighties.
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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Its funny how you stopped at the eighties.

An admin says to cut it out and we're still fighting in the wrong thread. Apparently Trump isn't the only one who can't take direction.

Back to the topic in general, the Administration will do whatever it likes because there are no meaningful consequences. Contempt citations with arrests for non-compliance should happen now and be ongoing.
 

UNCjigga

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If I were to sympathize with the situation Schiff, Nadler and ultimately Pelosi find themselves in, they are probably still woefully short on facts to be comfortable with starting formal articles of impeachment based on this incident. Based on the NYT sources, Trump may not have made any direct ties between a Biden investigation and the military aid package (no “quid pro quo”) as if that really happened, it was likely handled through others (I.e. Giuliani).

However, they still have a ton of obstruction and Administration officials who are not following the law. I don’t know why they aren’t in front of a judge every single day asking for the release of this information in order to conduct their investigation. Not doing so makes it seem like this is all just political and “there’s no there there”.
 

Jhhnn

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If I were to sympathize with the situation Schiff, Nadler and ultimately Pelosi find themselves in, they are probably still woefully short on facts to be comfortable with starting formal articles of impeachment based on this incident. Based on the NYT sources, Trump may not have made any direct ties between a Biden investigation and the military aid package (no “quid pro quo”) as if that really happened, it was likely handled through others (I.e. Giuliani).

However, they still have a ton of obstruction and Administration officials who are not following the law. I don’t know why they aren’t in front of a judge every single day asking for the release of this information in order to conduct their investigation. Not doing so makes it seem like this is all just political and “there’s no there there”.

If it were Giuliani I doubt we'd have a whistleblower complaint & a coverup of its contents. All we have are anonymous leaks as to the allegations at hand.

The Ukrainians said they'd act on a formal complaint from the US but none has been forthcoming, of course, because there's no actual evidence underlying the smear. It's just innuendo & conspiracy theory.
 

K1052

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If I were to sympathize with the situation Schiff, Nadler and ultimately Pelosi find themselves in, they are probably still woefully short on facts to be comfortable with starting formal articles of impeachment based on this incident. Based on the NYT sources, Trump may not have made any direct ties between a Biden investigation and the military aid package (no “quid pro quo”) as if that really happened, it was likely handled through others (I.e. Giuliani).

However, they still have a ton of obstruction and Administration officials who are not following the law. I don’t know why they aren’t in front of a judge every single day asking for the release of this information in order to conduct their investigation. Not doing so makes it seem like this is all just political and “there’s no there there”.

House Judiciary should have started taking real measures against people who either defy subpoenas or refuse to answer questions from the committee. Inherent contempt should have been (can still be) on the table and used. Trump is a rule and norm wrecking machine and a lot of the House Dems are fighting with both hands behind their backs. This is the only way to get the info needed to make a stronger impeachment case.
 
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House Judiciary should have started taking real measures against people who either defy subpoenas or refuse to answer questions from the committee. Inherent contempt should have been (can still be) on the table and used. Trump is a rule and norm wrecking machine and a lot of the House Dems are fighting with both hands behind their backs. This is the only way to get the info needed to make a stronger impeachment case.
You are omitting one tool the Dems refuse to use. House has the inherent authority to arrest people in comtempt of Congress. Start locking up motherfuckers and cooporation will start. Can you imagine a goober like Mnuchin spending time in jail for Trump? It ain't happening.
 
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Sorry, but your impotent insults do not work on me.

You tell me then. Why did He leave out Pelosi... It starts with the House. She is in charge of the House.

He is guilty as hell, Lets do this!

Republicans and Democrats both are playing a dangerous game. I guarantee you the bulk of Republican politicians do not like or want Trump. Both are colluding to keep him in office. Democrats because they fear the uncertain political effects of impeachment, uncertain effects of destabilizing Trump further, and are feeling comfortable about their numbers heading into election. Republicans because they realize none is currently electable going against Trump and don't know what would be left of the party if they actually try and eject him.
 

Maxima1

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You are omitting one tool the Dems refuse to use. House has the inherent authority to arrest people in comtempt of Congress. Start locking up motherfuckers and cooporation will start. Can you imagine a goober like Mnuchin spending time in jail for Trump? It ain't happening.

K1052 did. That's inherent contempt.
 

dank69

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Got it so it would be okay for Nancy to say hey Saudi Arabia, if you want the House to approve those funds we promised you I’ll need to to look into what laws Jared broke over there.....wink wink, nudge nudge.

Back to Bidens Son. He wasn’t ever accused of anything. The company whose board he served on was investigated but nothing was disclosed or charged.
We need 3 more investigations to be sure. Oh, and the Trump/Russia investigation was a witch hunt.
 

ewdotson

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lol Conservatives will challenge it, and it'll be Bush vs. Gore all over again. There has been disagreement on whether the Speaker should be in the line of succession.
Don't forget that Pelosi doesn't appear to actually want to burn the country down. I'd anticipate some sort of a deal where Pence would have a chance to name a compromise, relatively sane Republican VP before resigning in exchange for GOP support in the Senate.

Not that we're even close to that point, of course. I'm only speaking of how I would expect it to go down in the still pretty unlikely case that we did.