Schiff Issues Subpoena for Whistleblower Complaint Being Unlawfully Withheld

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Fanatical Meat

Fanatical Meat

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UNCjigga said:
Isn't the IC IG supposed to testify in a closed door meeting today with Schiff and the Gang of Eight? I thought that was still happening, regardless of DNI's participation. At the very least, Schiff should have a lot more to go on, but I doubt he'll go into specifics with the public. Maddow is trying to get him on tonight.
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Saw this on cnn

  • Today: The intelligence community inspector general will brief the House committee behind closed doors about how it handled the whistleblower complaint.
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Another important thing to point out is that when you lodge a whistleblower complaint against the president your career is over no matter you win or you lose so the person doing this thought it was important enough to sacrifice the remainder of their career for.
 
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UNCjigga

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K1052 said:
Reports the IG is refusing to detail the whistleblower complaint involving the president to congress despite law requiring them to.

The House really should start arresting people unless we're just giving up entirely on this branch of the government.
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Confirmed:
www.nytimes.com

Whistle-Blower Complaint Is Said to Involve Trump and Ukraine (Published 2019)

The complaint, from a member of the intelligence community, remained opaque but involved at least one of the president’s communications with a foreign leader.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

Not sure what’s going on here...this is the same guy who called the whistleblower’s complaint “credible and urgent” and alerted the intelligence committees in the first place. Could just be he wants to follow letter of the law and ensure DNI is providing the report to Schiff. Bypassing that chain might jeopardize his job? Need to see what the Twitter pundits are saying about this.
 
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UNCjigga said:
Confirmed:
www.nytimes.com

Whistle-Blower Complaint Is Said to Involve Trump and Ukraine (Published 2019)

The complaint, from a member of the intelligence community, remained opaque but involved at least one of the president’s communications with a foreign leader.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

Not sure what’s going on here...this is the same guy who called the whistleblower’s complaint “credible and urgent” and alerted the intelligence committees in the first place. Could just be he wants to follow letter of the law and ensure DNI is providing the report to Schiff. Bypassing that chain might jeopardize his job? Need to see what the Twitter pundits are saying about this.
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Or has the DOJ threatened to prosecute him in order to protect the president?

Trump himself claims not to have said anything compromising so trying to hide the claim would seem to be pointless unless that's not true. Somebody torched their career to bring this to the IG.
 
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UNCjigga said:
Confirmed:
www.nytimes.com

Whistle-Blower Complaint Is Said to Involve Trump and Ukraine (Published 2019)

The complaint, from a member of the intelligence community, remained opaque but involved at least one of the president’s communications with a foreign leader.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

Not sure what’s going on here...this is the same guy who called the whistleblower’s complaint “credible and urgent” and alerted the intelligence committees in the first place. Could just be he wants to follow letter of the law and ensure DNI is providing the report to Schiff. Bypassing that chain might jeopardize his job? Need to see what the Twitter pundits are saying about this.
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Word is DNI had a conversation with DOJ before his position of "I aint talkin'". When asked if Barr was involved, the answer was no comment.
 
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More broadly this is absolutely going to come out eventually the only question is how many illegal things does Trump or the DOJ do trying to stop it.
 
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fskimospy

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K1052 said:
Reports the IG is refusing to detail the whistleblower complaint involving the president to congress despite law requiring them to.

The House really should start arresting people unless we're just giving up entirely on this branch of the government.
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Yes I'm not sure what the Democrats don't understand about this. People will keep stonewalling them because it's effective and there are no consequences. You need to find ways to inflict consequences.

EDIT: Although in this case I suspect what Barr/DOJ told the IG is that he could be sent to prison for revealing it to Congress. I suspect what we're seeing here is at least equally if not totally the corruption of the DOJ at work, not necessarily this guy.
 
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When you go into the living hell that he Trump admin. is, you go in with the full knowledge that when he's gone and you can no longer rely on his shadow to give you immunity, everyone around you that's not a Trumper will look at you like you got some kind of incurable communicable disease. Sympathy will be the only card left for you to play.

OTOH, the whistle blower will be redeemed. That person will be compensated and made whole for defending the honor and the integrity of the community she/he works in.

The intelligence community is Trump's worst enemy and feared foe because they know what Trump is hiding from everyone else yet can't divulge for the sake of the nation's security. That Trump attacks them on a regular basis, installs sycophants in there to control the outflow of knowledge damaging to him just makes his culpability that much more obvious.
 
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fskimospy said:
Yes I'm not sure what the Democrats don't understand about this. People will keep stonewalling them because it's effective and there are no consequences. You need to find ways to inflict consequences.
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The house should have changed the rules for some committees to be able to hold witnesses in contempt on the spot. If people like Lewandowski were hauled off to a holding cell on national TV we'd see a lot less of this bullshit.
 
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K1052 said:
The house should have changed the rules for some committees to be able to hold witnesses in contempt on the spot. If people like Lewandowski were hauled off to a holding cell on national TV we'd see a lot less of this bullshit.
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I believe they already can
 
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K1052 said:
Or has the DOJ threatened to prosecute him in order to protect the president?

Trump himself claims not to have said anything compromising so trying to hide the claim would seem to be pointless unless that's not true. Somebody torched their career to bring this to the IG.
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Threats of malicious prosecution from the Trump admin? Say it ain't so!
 
UNCjigga

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Just a point of clarification—intel committees are meeting with the IC IG (Atkinson) today, not the acting DNI (Maguire). IC IG is the same guy who alerted Schiff in the first place and called the complaint “credible and urgent”. He would not be stonewalling for the Administration and he isn’t working with DOJ to bury this. But for some reason he doesn’t want to get into details in a closed door committee hearing with the Congresspeople who have the highest clearance. Maybe he thinks it’s not standard procedure, or maybe he doesn’t want to politicize this.

Either way, confirms that this is a big deal.

FWIW, NBC news today independently confirmed WaPo’s story that the whistleblower complaint involves a phone call the President had.
 
HomerJS

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Who says Trump can't be funny? Hey dummy, anyone remember Russians in the Oval Office??

BTW - Stable genius just confirmed it was him.

“Virtually anytime I speak on the phone to a foreign leader, I understand that there may be many people listening from various U.S. agencies, not to mention those from the other country itself. No problem!” the president wrote in a tweet, calling the controversy “another Fake News story out there.” “Knowing all of this, is anybody dumb enough to believe that I would say something inappropriate with a foreign leader while on such a potentially ‘heavily populated’ call,” he asked.
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www.politico.com

Schiff threatens to sue over secret whistleblower complaint

The intelligence community inspector general deemed the complaint “urgent” and credible.
www.politico.com www.politico.com
 
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I didn't say anything compromising because who would be so dumb but no you can't hear what I said so you've got to take my word for it.

A Trumpian defense if ever there was one.
 
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K1052 said:
I didn't say anything compromising because who would be so dumb but no you can't hear what I said so you've got to take my word for it.

A Trumpian defense if ever there was one.
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The Trump Defense:

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It has occurred to me that there is a rather high probability that Trump will break the law after he's out of office by blabbing classified info to people.
 
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