Say what you will, but Tebow freaking wins.

[Capt Caveman]

9/26 34.6% 136yds 5 sacks 1 fumble lost and 13 yards rushing against the 31st ranked defense

Good luck against that 2012 schedule now that everyone knows how to defend the college offense they tried to run.

 

[gorcorps]

Disgusting. It's like they threw out anything they may have learned and showed last week. Defense was terrible, offensive line was performing at a pre-Tebow low, passes dropped left and right, and the play calling was awful. If they keep stopping the run up the middle, why would you keep wasting downs on it?

I don't blame Tebow for most of this. It's like not anybody on the team gave a shit anyway. I didn't expect them to win, but I at least expected them to play.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Watch NFL Primetime now, they're talking about why college/high school offenses don't work in the pros.

 

[Jeffg010]

You know that was just awesome watching that and we all now know the real reason Tebow won that game against the Steelers was because of all the injuries. Having 4 starters out on D which 3 were lineman so this confirms it that Tebow is just mediocre.

All you Denver fans can keep believing that Tebow is your answer. All you can quote me on this "TEBOW WILL NEVER WIN A SUPERBOWL" that is all LOL

 

[ric1287]

Disgusting. It's like they threw out anything they may have learned and showed last week. Defense was terrible, offensive line was performing at a pre-Tebow low, passes dropped left and right, and the play calling was awful. If they keep stopping the run up the middle, why would you keep wasting downs on it?

I don't blame Tebow for most of this. It's like not anybody on the team gave a shit anyway. I didn't expect them to win, but I at least expected them to play.

It really comes down to: Tebow is 100% responsible for all their wins and ~7% responsible for the losses

 

[gorcorps]

It really comes down to: Tebow is 100% responsible for all their wins and ~7% responsible for the losses

Meh, that's what the general consensus is for bandwagoners. Truth be told I didn't like Tebow at the beginning and blamed him for a lot of issues, and dusted the wins off as silly. But I started to come around a bit with the last win of the regular season and then with the Steelers. THIS game however I would easily blame many many other issues before him.

You need to understand: not everybody in Denver likes Tebow. All you hear is the media and the LOUD fans that like him. You don't hear much from the side that don't like him because we remain cautiously optimistic. You think you're annoyed with all the Tebow crap on TV? Imagine all of that plus more because he's also always splattered over every single local channel. The news casters think it's funny to slip a Tebow reference into their little light hearted news blurbs... it's fucking obnoxious.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Meh, that's what the general consensus is for bandwagoners. Truth be told I didn't like Tebow at the beginning and blamed him for a lot of issues, and dusted the wins off as silly. But I started to come around a bit with the last win of the regular season and then with the Steelers. THIS game however I would easily blame many many other issues before him.

You need to understand: not everybody in Denver likes Tebow. All you hear is the media and the LOUD fans that like him. You don't hear much from the side that don't like him because we remain cautiously optimistic. You think you're annoyed with all the Tebow crap on TV? Imagine all of that plus more because he's also always splattered over every single local channel. The news casters think it's funny to slip a Tebow reference into their little light hearted news blurbs... it's fucking obnoxious.

gotta feel for you, the worst part is that winning a playoff game means you're definitely stuck with him for longer than you otherwise would have been if he doesn't improve to a level to where he can provide a legitimate chance at winning a Superbowl

clearly he's athletic and talented enough to run a gimmick offense that can win enough games to make the playoffs in a very weak division, but with all the rule changes greatly favoring the passing game, you have to be able to run a pass-first offense to win the Superbowl

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

They suck.

but seriously--they were clicking with Campbell and McFadden. But Campbell went down, replaced by Palmer--turned out decent enough.

But the expected loss of the oft-injured McFadden seriously hurt them. Bush has emerged as quite the beast, though.

In the end, even the iron foot of the great polish kicker, S. Janikowski, couldn't connect on enough 60 yarders to compensate for poor coaching.

lol big boot. We got a guy in rugby that can hit 60 plus with a rugby ball. When he was at high school he knocked them from anywhere in his own half everywhere lol

 

[gorcorps]

gotta feel for you, the worst part is that winning a playoff game means you're definitely stuck with him for longer than you otherwise would have been if he doesn't improve to a level to where he can provide a legitimate chance at winning a Superbowl

clearly he's athletic and talented enough to run a gimmick offense that can win enough games to make the playoffs in a very weak division, but with all the rule changes greatly favoring the passing game, you have to be able to run a pass-first offense to win the Superbowl

On the upside I think he did start to show signs that he can be taught to throw. Unfortunately he still needs to be taught how to throw into close coverage and all that. The team surrounding him just isn't good enough to make up for what he lacks, which is still quite a bit.

 

[blurredvision]

On the upside I think he did start to show signs that he can be taught to throw. Unfortunately he still needs to be taught how to throw into close coverage and all that. The team surrounding him just isn't good enough to make up for what he lacks, which is still quite a bit.

Maybe. He still seems to lack confidence on anything other than a wide-open receiver. I think the end of the regular season is when he decided to start trying to be more risky but then threw a shitload of picks, now he's regressed back into being way too cautious.

With yesterday's game, the Pats d-line did a fantastic job of not letting him get away when they got to him. On the vast majority of Tebow's throwing plays, he's just not going to throw it within any decent amount of time. I think he's well aware that almost everybody is waiting for him to fuck up and he's trying to hard not to.

He really reminds me of Grossman, except Grossman didn't give a fuck to throw 4 picks a game and didn't seem to care what others would say. He'd keep slinging them.

 

[AMDZen]

Disgusting. It's like they threw out anything they may have learned and showed last week. Defense was terrible, offensive line was performing at a pre-Tebow low, passes dropped left and right, and the play calling was awful. If they keep stopping the run up the middle, why would you keep wasting downs on it?

I don't blame Tebow for most of this. It's like not anybody on the team gave a shit anyway. I didn't expect them to win, but I at least expected them to play.

Pretty embarrassing way for our season to end but frankly, being that everyone thought we would be in the Andrew Luck sweepstakes, it was nice to at least make the playoffs.

 

[swanysto]

God doesn't work football magic on Satuday. Sorry Tebow, you need to make sure your playoff games are on Sunday next year.

 

[GotIssues]

Tebow is entirely reliant on his defense keeping the game close and low scoring in order to win games. The problem is, if they get up against a decent offense that will put up 28+ points, Denver is screwed, they don't have any offensive firepower. You can't expect to win games consistently 14-10 (or, conversely, 45-42), some games your offense or defense will have off nights, and the other side of the ball HAS to pick up the slack. Denver just doesn't have an offense capable of that.

The fact that NFL talent is concentrated to the best of the best leaves less room for error than in college and HS, which is why Tebow will not succeed - he could flat out out-talent other teams at Florida. That won't fly in the NFL. It'll lead to a whole lot of mediocrity, at best - sometimes it'll work, sometimes it won't.

One thing you have to remember is that the top 1% of college players will enter into the NFL, many of those are cut for not being as good as existing players before the regular season even starts. Even the worst NFL player was still one of the best college players.

EDIT: It still boggles my mind how much credit Tebow took from amazing defensive performances. "Oh, Tebow wins another close game!" Should have been stated as "Defensive performance nearly ruined by another anemic offensive output."

 

[Regs]

Tebow is entirely reliant on his defense keeping the game close and low scoring in order to win games. The problem is, if they get up against a decent offense that will put up 28+ points, Denver is screwed, they don't have any offensive firepower. You can't expect to win games consistently 14-10 (or, conversely, 45-42), some games your offense or defense will have off nights, and the other side of the ball HAS to pick up the slack. Denver just doesn't have an offense capable of that.

The fact that NFL talent is concentrated to the best of the best leaves less room for error than in college and HS, which is why Tebow will not succeed - he could flat out out-talent other teams at Florida. That won't fly in the NFL. It'll lead to a whole lot of mediocrity, at best - sometimes it'll work, sometimes it won't.

One thing you have to remember is that the top 1% of college players will enter into the NFL, many of those are cut for not being as good as existing players before the regular season even starts. Even the worst NFL player was still one of the best college players.

I kinda sorta disagree. You're not going to have many chances to score when your defense is letting the other team have all the time in the world to score on you, or give you long fields after punts. Both sides of the ball sucked for the Bronco's last night.

 

[PimpJuice]

Tebow declared the starter going into next season.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7...n-elway-says-tim-tebow-starting-qb-going-camp

 

[purbeast0]

Tebow declared the starter going into next season.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7...n-elway-says-tim-tebow-starting-qb-going-camp

derp derp derp ... who else would they start?

EDIT:

L O FUCKING L ... Jay Feely said Tebow reminds him of a young Tom Brady...

 

[preslove]

I think the shame of Tebow and the broncos is more the fact that they didn't have to use such a high draft pick to get him. If they had drafted a wide receiver at 25, and made moves to ensure catching Tebow in the 2nd round, they would be in better shape than they are now.

 

[Fern]

Tebow declared the starter going into next season.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7...n-elway-says-tim-tebow-starting-qb-going-camp

From the article in your link:

Tebow is the Broncos' only quarterback under contract for 2012.

Anybody who follows the Broncos know who they may retain/add? Seems to me they'll need at least two more QB's on the roster for 2012.

Fern

 

[CPA]

Pulled from Orangemane.com, here is a list of Bronco free agents:

Brady Quinn

Spencer Larsen

Eddie Royal

Matt Willis

Daniel Fells

Matt Prater

Russ Hochstein

Broderick Bunkley

Jason Hunter

Marcus Thomas

Joe Mays

Wesley Woodyard

Jonathan Wilhite


I think they definitely keep Prater, Fells and Bunkley, not sure about any of the others. Mays needs to be replaced.

 

[Fern]

Thanks.

The only one I recognize as a QB is Brady Quinn. They'll need more.

I live in NC, so we rarely get to see the Broncos' games. I.e., I really don't know their roster. What I'm wondering is, if they stick with Tebow and try to build an offense around him how might that affect their draft?

And if it affects them much, might they have a mess on their hands if they later release Tebow.

The FL Gators have had a dumpster fire on the offensive side since Tebow left. The personnel who were effective when Tebow was there (Demps & Rainey) really weren't suitable or effective in a post-Tebow offense.

Weiss came in and tried a pro-style offense and couldn't make it work.

I just wonder if they try to follow Tebow too far down the rabbit hole how much trouble it may cause them in the long run. Of course, the pro teams can use the free agent market to change personnel more quickly than college teams so maybe it's not that big of a deal.

Fern

 

[crashtestdummy]

From the article in your link:



Anybody who follows the Broncos know who they may retain/add? Seems to me they'll need at least two more QB's on the roster for 2012.

Fern

Word on the street has them taking at least one guy in the draft. I think they'd do well looking for another spread option QB that other teams won't touch (late rounds in the draft) and a more established pocket QB (maybe a Brian Hoyer or the like).

 

[Fern]

Word on the street has them taking at least one guy in the draft. I think they'd do well looking for another spread option QB that other teams won't touch (late rounds in the draft) and a more established pocket QB (maybe a Brian Hoyer or the like).

IIRC, this may be the first time Elway really is able to have a big influence on teal personnel. I suppose he had the authority last year, but given the strike that cut down on the free agency window and the fact he may not have known the personnel all that well I'm curious if he'll make some big moves.

From what little I've seen of the Broncos, they have a lot of room for improvement in quite a few areas.

Fern

 

[preslove]

Thanks.

The only one I recognize as a QB is Brady Quinn. They'll need more.

I live in NC, so we rarely get to see the Broncos' games. I.e., I really don't know their roster. What I'm wondering is, if they stick with Tebow and try to build an offense around him how might that affect their draft?

And if it affects them much, might they have a mess on their hands if they later release Tebow.

The FL Gators have had a dumpster fire on the offensive side since Tebow left. The personnel who were effective when Tebow was there (Demps & Rainey) really weren't suitable or effective in a post-Tebow offense.

Weiss came in and tried a pro-style offense and couldn't make it work.

I just wonder if they try to follow Tebow too far down the rabbit hole how much trouble it may cause them in the long run. Of course, the pro teams can use the free agent market to change personnel more quickly than college teams so maybe it's not that big of a deal.

Fern

Meh, Dan Mullen leaving and steve addazio failing had more to do with UF's decline than Tebow leaving. Addazio pretty much ruined that offense.

 

[JulesMaximus]

God doesn't work football magic on Satuday. Sorry Tebow, you need to make sure your playoff games are on Sunday next year.

I'm surprised Tebow even plays football. Isn't Sunday supposed to be God's day? A day of rest and all that horseshit?

 

[JulesMaximus]

Tebow declared the starter going into next season.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7...n-elway-says-tim-tebow-starting-qb-going-camp

What a shock! I mean, he's the only QB they have signed at the moment right?