Sarah Palin: "We gotta stand with our North Korean allies"

[DrPizza]

Before commenting, I thought I'd dwell on this for a day. I agree - she misspoke. BUT, I'll also point out that if she were knowledgeable on the issue, she would not have misspoken. It's only because her level of knowledge on the subject is questionable at best. It's the difference between ordering french fries and french toast at McDonalds. You know what you want, you know exactly what you're talking about. And, under those circumstances, you don't misspeak.

 

[dali71]

I don't think it's so much hate as entertaining. It's amazing that she can screw up so often and those on the right will just give her a pass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9hZpJp7U3Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4-AKcH3eC8

I can totally understand why the left feels the need to focus on someone else's mistakes.

 

[trenchfoot]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9hZpJp7U3Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4-AKcH3eC8

I can totally understand why the left feels the need to focus on someone else's mistakes.

Hey, thanks for sharing, that was fun. :thumbsup:

Although, I think a more accurate overall picture of comparing Obama with Palin would be to list side by side all the gaffs each has made since the '08 campaigns started, and a rating of how egregious/blatantly incompetent each gaff was.

 

[BoomerD]

But, but, but...she can see Russia from her house!!




oh wait...no she can't.

 

[Jhhnn]

Meh. It's just a gaffe, and I'm not willing to play the same game as Righties in that regard. I have a strong distaste for the Palin persona, her whole schtick, but this really has nothing to do with it.

 

[alkemyst]

Before commenting, I thought I'd dwell on this for a day. I agree - she misspoke. BUT, I'll also point out that if she were knowledgeable on the issue, she would not have misspoken. It's only because her level of knowledge on the subject is questionable at best. It's the difference between ordering french fries and french toast at McDonalds. You know what you want, you know exactly what you're talking about. And, under those circumstances, you don't misspeak.

I know about North and South Korea. My wife is from Japan. However, they never really fit into my 'day'.

However, after this event it's going to me hard for me to confuse the two...

Back to your topic, if one just missed breakfast I am sure someone has ordered a Whopper/Big Mac and French Toast by mistake quite a few times.

 

[Perknose]

She misspoke dipshits. Yes she's disaster when she opens her mouth, but not because she doesn't know that our allies are South Korea.

Don't be so sure, sparky.

In the book 'Game Change', political journalists John Heilemann and Mark Halperin said that Palin had to be taken through World War I, World War II, the Korean War, the Cold War and the War on Terror.

"After the [Republican] convention was over, she still didn't really understand why there was a North Korea and a South Korea," Heilemann said during an interview, while adding that Palin believed Iraq's Saddam Hussein was behind 9/11.

 

[Craig234]

Don't be so sure, sparky.

Thanks for the reminder of that quote. I think she was that ignorant, but it's pretty plausible that by now, she knows the difference.

Again, checking other comments she's been made - someone should be paid well to have to do that - could confirm.

 

[Attic]

I think Sarah Palin is extremely ignorant, dishonest, ill-motivated and dangerous for our society, for a few things, but I think it's very possible this was an innocent misspeaking.

You get to talking 'North' attacked 'South', North this South that, and it's easy to say 'North' when you mean 'South'.

I have not and am appalled at the idea of looking at more of her speeches to see whether she got it right other times, but that would pretty much confirm the issue.

Yes, this. Well said.

 

[Attic]

Don't be so sure, sparky.

I hold the woman in low regard, but I don't see any likelyhood that she is so far removed from an understanding of the recent rising tensions between N and S Korea that she doesn't know the difference between the two.

I also know a fair amount of people, some intelligent, who misspeak in a very similar manner and circumstance to Palin's embarassing moment.


If she was speaking correct to her understanding, then there's more pressure on McCain to give a long overdue apology for subjecting the country to Mrs. Palin's televesion appearances.

 

[Attic]

Before commenting, I thought I'd dwell on this for a day. I agree - she misspoke. BUT, I'll also point out that if she were knowledgeable on the issue, she would not have misspoken. It's only because her level of knowledge on the subject is questionable at best. It's the difference between ordering french fries and french toast at McDonalds. You know what you want, you know exactly what you're talking about. And, under those circumstances, you don't misspeak.

Interesting way to look at it.

I agree with your line of thought, though I think a knowledgeable person could make the same mistake, particularly if they were nervous as would be the case on a television interview. I'm not saying Palin is knowledgable, on anything, but I think knowledgeable people would and could make the same mistake either due to their thoughts being ahead of thier tongue or any number of other reasons people misspeak.

Either way it still gets back to the idea that Palin is stupid, but not that stupid and that it is intellectually dishonest to hold her hostage to the idea that she thinks North Korea our ally.

 

[caddlad]

that it is intellectually dishonest to hold her hostage to the idea that she thinks North Korea our ally.

I, honestly, believe she has to pause and think about "which one of them durn Koreas" is our ally. It has been known for decades as the land of bad options, led by a batshit crazy megalomaniac.

A serious, committed politician should be intimately familiar with the national security implications, so much so that this "gaffe" would be unthinkable.

She sets the bar for mental lightweights.

 

[alkemyst]

the war happy anyway.

 

[Jhhnn]

Palin is *not* a serious politician, and anybody who thinks she is has rocks for brains. She's an *entertainer*, like Rush, Hannity, Beck, and the Chupacabra, Coulter.

And she is amusing, in a twisted sort of way, provided you don't take her seriously. She has no more business in national office than Edith Bunker.

 

[FuzzyBee]

You're right - except here's page 1 of Google's "Obama 57 states":



So what you're saying is, 'let the right milk it with Democrats, but not the other way'.

Oh, and here's Page 25 - yes, 25:



Note, the top entry is... a comment defending, you guessed, Sarah Palin from a gaffe last month, by citing the years-old Obama 57 states gaffe.

That time, she was talking about her 'party like it's 1773' gaffe about the revolution.

At some point of degree and a pattern, the politician moves from 'gaffe' to 'Quayle'.

Do her next 100 gaffes - next 1000 - all get to play the '57 states' card?

Let's be fair, these stories tend to get more attention when they fit a narrative - rightly or wrongly, sometimes they're manufactured and false (e.g., Gore the big liar).

When something fits that, people notice it. If Michelle Obama says *anything* about not loving her country, it'll get grabbed a lot more than without that story's history.

Palin has a pattern and a history after many gaffes that make it of more interests as she continues to make more, just as Dan Quayle did.

I used to make a comment like you did about Quayle, defending him that there was unfairness, until he made more and more that were bad enough to decide it was fair.

Palin has demonstrated such a contempt for a leader being informed, a contempt for voters with answers like her being qualified on foreign policy because she can see a Russian plane fly over, just proudly wearing the badge of ignorance, that it is fair to attack her for it IMO, rather than treat her as a likely presidential candidate, holding her to some standard, when polls show she is a leading contender and ignorance isn't as funny when the President does it.

There is a filtering process thousands of would-be nominees go through that informally sorts the wheat from the chaff - sometimes - and stories like this, when real, help.

(And stories that aren't real, like Al Gore saying he invented the internet, are not usually helpful to the truth or to our country).

I agree with you, though, gaffe stories like this are over-hyped and this is the least of the reason for concern with Palin.

One of the most famous, though, was when President Ford in a presidential debate called Poland a free country. You can't think he was that ignorant, but it hurt.

... and then there's Joe Biden. *Of course*, you'll say his is just colloquialism, right?

The funny thing is that Palin wasn't elected.

 

[LegendKiller]

Why does there always have to be an insult in your responses? Why not simply respond to the topic or post at hand without anger? I understand that you feel you're the superior intellect, I have no issue with that at all. But your need to belittle others makes me think you're nothing more than an ass.

Because while I am an ass, I'd far rather be a smart ass who heaps derision on Palin and her acolytes than a dumb ass who supports her, even if it's just to spite those who don't.

You picked your side, I'm just calling a spade a spade.

 

[Medu]

In isolation the mix-up wouldn't be that big of an issue but when it was combined with the babbling answer that she gave... This was the biggest international story of the week yet she didn't even have a prepared answer let alone have a personal stance on the issue.

 

[LegendKiller]

In isolation the mix-up wouldn't be that big of an issue but when it was combined with the babbling answer that she gave... This was the biggest international story of the week yet she didn't even have a prepared answer let alone have a personal stance on the issue.

She can't prepare because she can't think beyond the newest sound bites and quips. Her ability to actually THINK is limited. This has been proven time and again.

 

[Brigandier]

She can't prepare because she can't think beyond the newest sound bites and quips. Her ability to actually THINK is limited. This has been proven time and again.

No worries, come Monday, she'll have a reason why all this happened. After all, an issue this big, could you fault her for thinking it over and not having a ready answer?

 

[LegendKiller]

No worries, come Monday, she'll have a reason why all this happened. After all, an issue this big, could you fault her for thinking it over and not having a ready answer?

We all know how it happened. She read "all" of the newspapers and magazines and was still using deductive logic to determine the optimal diplomatic strategy. After all, with her plethora of foreign relations experience, she needed to incorporate *ALL* information into her thought process.

To think anything less would be lame-stream media driven.

 

[manimal]

The scary thing about palin is that she is such a clean slate..ready to be filled by whatever ideology her handlers see fit..much like GWB...sadly his dad didnt have the drivers seat....

 

[RedChief]

The left will tell us who they fear the most by attacking them with the most vigor.

 

[WelshBloke]

The left will tell us who they fear the most by attacking them with the most vigor.

Or pointing and giggling.

 

[manimal]

Or pointing and giggling.

mockery is the sincerest form of flattery...oh wait...

 

[WelshBloke]

mockery is the sincerest form of flattery...oh wait...

*Points at Manimal and laughs.*