Sarah Palin stepping down as Governor

[Lemon law]

I will grant that Siddhartha point that Truman was woefully unprepared to assume the office of President, but much of the fault was due to FDR not including Truman in decisions. And shortly after assuming the office of President, Truman was only informed then that the Atomic existed and Truman had to decide if it was to be used against the Japanese.

To many in the GOP, Truman was regarded as a lightweight, or that bankrupt Habberdasher, and nearly everyone assumed that Dewey would creme Truman in the 1948 general election.

But in the longer judgment of history, Truman, although loathed at the time for taking unpopular stances on the issues, is now widely regarded as being the one who was right at the time.

But in comparing Truman to Palin, Truman grew and learned, I question if Palin has any capacity for personnel growth or the native vision to choose the correct course.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
I will grant that Siddhartha point that Truman was woefully unprepared to assume the office of President, but much of the fault was due to FDR not including Truman in decisions. And shortly after assuming the office of President, Truman was only informed then that the Atomic existed and Truman had to decide if it was to be used against the Japanese.

To many in the GOP, Truman was regarded as a lightweight, or that bankrupt Habberdasher, and nearly everyone assumed that Dewey would creme Truman in the 1948 general election.

But in the longer judgment of history, Truman, although loathed at the time for taking unpopular stances on the issues, is now widely regarded as being the one who was right at the time.

But in comparing Truman to Palin, Truman grew and learned, I question if Palin has any capacity for personnel growth or the native vision to choose the correct course.

Yes, this is what I had in mind when I included Truman in my post. I was refering to VP candidates and how they were treated.

In the past it was possible to chose a VP candidate who was not prepared to be POTUS. I guess that changed with McCain's choice of Palin.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: ModerateRepZero
It may be premature to say her political career is kaput, but I think it's fair to say that she'll have an uphill fight if she plans on running for office again...

http://www.nydailynews.com/new...ential_pipe_dream.html

"She has an incredibly thin résumé, a serious lack of gravitas, no coherent philosophy and the people around her are amateurs," another top Republican pol argued. "She's finished."

I'd say this sums it up.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Siddhartha
I can't remember any other VP candidate who solicited so much, positive and negative, interest and opinion as Ms Palin has.

No one else has been so unqualified and so in denial about it, even proud of it.

(Bush came close, but knew enough to keep his mouth shut about things like not having been out of the country except Mexico, he didn't say "I banged a chick from Europe!")

Palin actually gicing speeches arguing that allegedly watching Putin's plane fly overhead made her qualified was unprecented in its idiocy and outrageousness.

Her 'Obama likes to pal around with terrorists' and smiles to "KILL HIM!" were lows.

Can anyone argue that her supporters' reasons for liking her are in any way better or more well-informed than Hitler's supporters were? They're like moths who will follow any flame who can demagogue against an 'enemy', be it 'Jew' or 'liberal', and follow them down any road however evil it might be. They're the real enemies of America, lacking in the values and even common sense our nation relies on its citizens to have. They see an alpha-female and become her slavish advocates. Ann Coulter would be her perfect VP.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Awesome, now she's threatening to sue folks for speculating over her legal troubles.
I'm gonna sue you, you betcha!

 

[Craig234]

Salon has an updated news story - and commentary similar to my own.

The updated news story involves her lawyers releasing a warning to anyone who might claim ehe is resigning over a specific alleged scandal - that was getting little if any attention until they brought it up. Whether that was a mistake or a misdirection, who can say at this point. It'd be nice for her if they could get the media to hype a 'scandal' that works out in her favor.

 

[LumbergTech]

I think it is hilarious how rove is pretending like he doesn't know exactly what is going on

 

[yllus]

Why Sarah Palin Quit as Governor

"Some are going to question the timing of this and let me just say that this decision has been in the works for a while. In fact this decision comes after much consideration," Palin said, holding up her left index finger as she amended her thought, "Much prayer and consideration. And finally, I polled the most important people in my life, my kids. And the count was unanimous. While in response to asking, 'Hey, do you want me to be a positive influence and fight for all our children's futures from outside the governor's office?' it was four yeses and one 'Hell, yeah.' The 'Hell, yeah' sold it."

Yeah, that sounds like a real conversation. 😕

If her goal is to position herself for higher office, the stagecraft and timing of her announcement left Republicans scratching their heads. The Friday before Independence Day, when media attention is at its lowest, would be a more appropriate moment for a scandal-plagued politician to slink from the national stage.

Palin made the announcement with no fanfare, no teleprompters, no prepared remarks. Waterfowl in the background at times challenged her for the microphone.

Gut decision sort of thing, I guess? The lack of prep for the announcement sure indicates as much.

 

[Bitek]

Sarah Barraquita- the queen who could never finish anything. What a wackadoo.

 

[Genx87]

This ended her political career imo. She might hit the talk shows, write a book, and make speeches. There is no way she gets back into politics on the national stage. I didnt think she would be much of a contender in 2012 regardless. But her best chance was to at least finish her term.

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Two GOP governors in hot water in a matter of weeks; we hit the jackpot.

this is why politics and the goverment is so fucked up. you care more about the "party" then what is actually happening with the country.

He's in training to become what he hates most..... Karl Rove Jr.

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: Phokus
I smell leaked sex tape 😛

I don't doubt your sex tapes all have a "smell", but that seems like it's more of a personal problem to me. :laugh:

 

[shrumpage]

Originally posted by: nobodyknows

Originally posted by: Phokus
I smell leaked sex tape 😛

I don't doubt your sex tapes all have a "smell", but that seems like it's more of a personal problem to me. :laugh:

No that will be John Edwards next issue.

 

[guyver01]

Originally posted by: Siddhartha
I can't remember any other VP candidate who solicited so much, positive and negative, interest and opinion as Ms Palin has.

Did she get divorced too?

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: Siddhartha
I can't remember any other VP candidate who solicited so much, positive and negative, interest and opinion as Ms Palin has.

Did she get divorced too?

😕

 

[guyver01]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: Siddhartha
I can't remember any other VP candidate who solicited so much, positive and negative, interest and opinion as Ms Palin has.

Did she get divorced too?

😕

Ms can be used if the woman in question is divorced and reverts to her maiden name...

Usually when someone knows someone is married, Mrs. is the norm... yes Ms. can be used, but is normally used when the marital status is unknown, or if the person is divorced.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: Siddhartha
I can't remember any other VP candidate who solicited so much, positive and negative, interest and opinion as Ms Palin has.

Did she get divorced too?

😕

Ms can be used if the woman in question is divorced and reverts to her maiden name...

Usually when someone knows someone is married, Mrs. is the norm... yes Ms. can be used, but is normally used when the marital status is unknown, or if the person is divorced.

The reason Ms. exists is because men have a marriage-neutral Mr., while women were 'defined' by their marital status, and wanted a marital-neutral title too.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: Siddhartha
I can't remember any other VP candidate who solicited so much, positive and negative, interest and opinion as Ms Palin has.

Did she get divorced too?

😕

Ms can be used if the woman in question is divorced and reverts to her maiden name...

Usually when someone knows someone is married, Mrs. is the norm... yes Ms. can be used, but is normally used when the marital status is unknown, or if the person is divorced.

The reason Ms. exists is because men have a marriage-neutral Mr., while women were 'defined' by their marital status, and wanted a marital-neutral title too.

Yes but in politics the mr/mrs/ms prefix is usually dropped unless in very formal circumstances or if the person is really being addressed with disgust or disdain. And then there's the case where fawning comes into play attained by gushing formality. Can't say in the above case. She certainly has done nothing to command respect.

 

[Craig234]

I think it's despicable how she uses her children like human shields for her political controversies - she did the same thing about her decision to run for VP.

Apparently, she doesn't giv a lot of weight to whether she can actually serve the country well, she just asks her kids what to do, and follows their answer.

Here she is taking heat for resigning, and she hides behind her kids, saying she asked them and what made her decision was the kid's response.

Having a special needs child wasn't enough to keep her from running, family demands weren't enough when she decided to run, but they are enough to quit early.

And she tried to be cute about it, with her little 'hell ya' stories. Dontcha know. She got one thing right, unintentionally, that her resigning is what's best for Alaska.

She is actually hurting the cause of working mothers, with the example she is displaying. The next mother CEO candidate won't be helped by Palin's antics.

 

[guyver01]

Originally posted by: seemingly random
Yes but in politics the mr/mrs/ms prefix is usually dropped unless in very formal circumstances or if the person is really being addressed with disgust or disdain.

True... and then the Honorific would be used.. Altho since she stepped down you wouldn't really call her "Govenor Palin" ... would ya? I know presidents and stuff, the honorific continues even after they leave office.. Maybe "Citizen Palin"? How about "I can't believe they were stupid enough to think i could win" Palin..

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: Craig234
I think it's despicable how she uses her children like human shields for her political controversies - she did the same thing about her decision to run for VP.

Apparently, she doesn't giv a lot of weight to whether she can actually serve the country well, she just asks her kids what to do, and follows their answer.

Here she is taking heat for resigning, and she hides behind her kids, saying she asked them and what made her decision was the kid's response.

Having a special needs child wasn't enough to keep her from running, family demands weren't enough when she decided to run, but they are enough to quit early.

And she tried to be cute about it, with her little 'hell ya' stories. Dontcha know. She got one thing right, unintentionally, that her resigning is what's best for Alaska.

She is actually hurting the cause of working mothers, with the example she is displaying. The next mother CEO candidate won't be helped by Palin's antics.

Here's something I just thought of: maybe she's a high functioning 'special needs' person herself. This stuff is genetic, I believe. The way she talks is like a person who used to be stutterer and is still learning english as a second language. Now, don't you feel bad for making fun of the idiot?

 

[guyver01]

Originally posted by: seemingly random
maybe she's a high functioning 'special needs' person herself.

That would explain alot...

who names their kids "bristol" or "trig" or "piper" or "willow"

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: seemingly random
Yes but in politics the mr/mrs/ms prefix is usually dropped unless in very formal circumstances or if the person is really being addressed with disgust or disdain.

True... and then the Honorific would be used.. Altho since she stepped down you wouldn't really call her "Govenor Palin" ... would ya? I know presidents and stuff, the honorific continues even after they leave office.. Maybe "Citizen Palin"? How about "I can't believe they were stupid enough to think i could win" Palin..

I seem to remember newsies using governor when they're buttering up a former governor they're interviewing.

I imagine this practice confuses the uninitiated in other countries when they see events such as a get together of current and former living presidents. I remember one where there were five. Some may have wondered why the u.s. has five presidents at once. Next, they'll start asking about a supreme president.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: guyver01

Originally posted by: seemingly random
maybe she's a high functioning 'special needs' person herself.

That would explain alot...

who names their kids "bristol" or "trig" or "piper" or "willow"

People who live on a commune.

 

[TechAZ]

Originally posted by: Craig234
I think it's despicable how she uses her children like human shields for her political controversies - she did the same thing about her decision to run for VP.

Apparently, she doesn't giv a lot of weight to whether she can actually serve the country well, she just asks her kids what to do, and follows their answer.

Here she is taking heat for resigning, and she hides behind her kids, saying she asked them and what made her decision was the kid's response.

Having a special needs child wasn't enough to keep her from running, family demands weren't enough when she decided to run, but they are enough to quit early.

And she tried to be cute about it, with her little 'hell ya' stories. Dontcha know. She got one thing right, unintentionally, that her resigning is what's best for Alaska.

She is actually hurting the cause of working mothers, with the example she is displaying. The next mother CEO candidate won't be helped by Palin's antics.

Asking her children/family how a situation is affecting the family as PART of a consideration for quitting != hiding behind them. I do not care for her and would not support her in a run for President (depending on situations at the year of election) but this rabid need to bury her is ridiculous. I'll repeat, I do not care for her....however I do think she's getting f'd in the A by the media and political opponents and it's pretty shameful adults act this way...."accomplished" adults at that.

Palin will have no affect on future working mothers.