Sarah Huckabee Sanders vilifies socialism but wants the feds to come to Arkansas rescue

[eelw]

Please stop with the notion you understand the human condition. Bewilderment, remember? Be more liberal, please.

Lol but apparently you do. You’re the hypocrite that keeps blaming the rest of us being full of self hate for why we’re so mean to you and the other bothsiders on here.

 

[NWRMidnight]

It has nothing to do with what I posted 5 years ago other that to demonstrate, after I said I was being sarcastic, to prove that when you called me a liar for telling you I was being sarcastic, you called me a liar. Apparently you now know I was being sarcastic because you are now complaining about "How was I supposed to know". I don't mind if you didn't know but when I explained that you said I was lying. Don't worry about it. Many others who should have known I was being sarcastic jumped right on your band wagon.

And as long as you know that all disaster aid from the Feds comes from taxes paid in every state we're good. I knew where the bulk of the money comes from and who gets less back than they put in. It's still pooled money. Fskimospy did a good job of explaining the difference between technical and reality to which I agree.

You are a liar, you have proven it as you keep trying to argue about what you keep claiming was just sarcasm. All you are doing is using different wording and keep trying to come at it from different angles, yet you keep claiming it was sarcasm.

At the end of the day, no matter how many times you change the color of lip stick on your the pig, you are trying to disguise and claim is sarcasm. It's still a pig and not sarcasm.

 

[NWRMidnight]

Perhaps what appears to you to be true is based on some motive to which you may not wish to admit. I simply pointed out that since the misquote I made of your post had nothing to do with Christianity but the post you quoted in 6 did, it could have tipped you off that I had misquoted you. I remember a specific recent incidence where someone misquoted someone and they replied I think you meant someone else and not me. That would me a more charitable way to approach such an issue if you felt you were misquoted, I would say. You seem to be extremely defensive as if you walk around easily triggered by guilt.

What? I see you are not only failing at comprehension, but are now pulling shit out of your ass as you keep trying to get some form of redeption.

 

[Pens1566]

Maybe stop responding to the forum's fortune cookie?

 

[NWRMidnight]

Why do you say I tie the phenomenon of belief in sacred cows to politics exclusively? I do not. This is a political forum and I was talking about how rationalization to protect the unconscious assumptions that our sacred cows are valid generally applies to liberals as well over those of their sacred beliefs are political in nature. The scientific literature is clear on this. Conservatives do this more than liberals do. If someone does something more than you do you do it too but less frequently.
I am aware of this as a universal truth true of me also so I know better than to believe in any bullshit that I am a victim even if I fall asleep and feel like one.

Because you are the one who tied what I said to politics, even though the context of my words had nothing to do with politics, but to why I don't block you.

Do you believe people block you, or suggest blocking you is a political move? Or Is it because you are dishonest, push disinformation, and post bullshit all the time? Or in other words they block you because of your lack of a moral and honest character that makes you, you?

Yes this is a political forum, well and news. That doesn't mean that every statement is a political statement or is tied to anything political. That adherence and distinction is only happening in your twisted head.

 

[outriding]

Maybe someone can put up some ads that say that Sanders is turning Arkansas in a communist socialist state and we need to stop that at all costs

 

[hal2kilo]

Here is one view on it:

Unity of opposites - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I have tried to explain this many times but you can't use words to do so directly because you can't transcend thought by thinking. We live in a delusional state, the world of opposites that have no basic reality but exist only as memories connected to the past experience of pain and pleasure. In this way all naming by thought is from the past and evokes emotions form thinking with words that do not correspond to what is in the present. A person can suffer from obsessive thinking inside of a fortress. Thought is fear, fear of feeling the feelings that happened in association with learning to think, to name things. Thought is division. Thought makes comparison possible. It creates the illusion of opposites.

Let us take an typical example of a Zen enlightenment. A student will be set a Koan to meditate on, an existential question the mind can't get a hold of, what is the sound of one hand clapping, what is the world without opposites that create our reality. A temple bell rings and suddenly the monk awakes. The question is no longer a question because the monk has gone somewhere else. There is only the present and the ring of the temple bell. The truth is just so very very easy. It is the ground of out being. Opposites disappear when thought ceases to exist and one enters into the awareness only of what is present. Enter the true self and the joy of being.

Shamans call it stopping the world. So what?

Please don't dominate the rap, Jack
If you've got nothing new to say
If you please, don't back up the track
This train's got to run today

I spent a little time on the mountain
I spent a little time on the hill
Heard some say, "Better run away."
Others say, "You better stand still."

Now I don't know but I been told
It's hard to run with the weight of gold
Other hand I have heard it said
It's just as hard with the weight of lead

Who can deny? Who can deny?
It's not just a change in style
One step done and another begun
And I wonder how many miles?

Spent a little time on the mountain
Spent a little time on the hill
Things went down we don't understand
But I think in time we will

Do we keep on coming or stand and wait
With the sun so dark and the hour so late?

You can't overlook the lack, Jack
Of any other highway to ride
It's got no signs or dividing lines
And very few rules to guide

Spent a little time on the mountain
Spent a little time on the hill
I saw things getting out of hand
I guess they always will

I don't know but I been told
If the horse don't pull you got to carry the load
I don't know whose back's that strong
Maybe find out before too long

One way or another
One way or another
One way or another
This darkness got to give
One way or another
One way or another
One way or another
This darkness got to give
One way or another
One way or another
One way or another
This darkness got to give

 

[woolfe9998]

Here is one view on it:

Unity of opposites - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I have tried to explain this many times but you can't use words to do so directly because you can't transcend thought by thinking. We live in a delusional state, the world of opposites that have no basic reality but exist only as memories connected to the past experience of pain and pleasure. In this way all naming by thought is from the past and evokes emotions form thinking with words that do not correspond to what is in the present. A person can suffer from obsessive thinking inside of a fortress. Thought is fear, fear of feeling the feelings that happened in association with learning to think, to name things. Thought is division. Thought makes comparison possible. It creates the illusion of opposites.

Let us take an typical example of a Zen enlightenment. A student will be set a Koan to meditate on, an existential question the mind can't get a hold of, what is the sound of one hand clapping, what is the world without opposites that create our reality. A temple bell rings and suddenly the monk awakes. The question is no longer a question because the monk has gone somewhere else. There is only the present and the ring of the temple bell. The truth is just so very very easy. It is the ground of out being. Opposites disappear when thought ceases to exist and one enters into the awareness only of what is present. Enter the true self and the joy of being.

Yes, I understand this, at least conceptually. Studied Zen in college course on eastern religions. Also studied related philosphy. Existentialism, existence precedes essence. Strip away the essence (i.e. identity produced by thought), and what is left is just being. Perception and thought produce artifical divisions. In a state of pure being, all divisions slip away and we're at one with the universe and each other.

But I asked the question what is it that left and right are opposite sides of. This provides no insight into the similarities and differences between these two groups.

 

[Moonbeam]

Lol but apparently you do. You’re the hypocrite that keeps blaming the rest of us being full of self hate for why we’re so mean to you and the other bothsiders on here.

No one is to blame for anything. You are trapped in a cage of guilt. When I tell you the cage is a delusion you have, a belief in your own guilt, you can hear only the thoughts that put you there, that I am the superior one who made you feel inferior, that my intention is to cause you humiliation rather than to show you the way out by illuminating for you the nature of your trap.

That prison if a mental creation that consists of a catch 22, the ego, a substitute for innocence, freedom form guilt, a presence, an armor, a self defense, the denier of your imaginary feelings of guilt. It tells you you are just fine, that you are now OK, that all of the flaws of the innocence of your childhood for which you were put down are now all eliminated.

You are now the brave strong ego that can stand up to Moonbeam and tell him to go to hell, the one your true self was made to feel. You are now a master competitor and someone who knows how to get even.

Never again will that ego relinquish control and allow you to feel the pain of lost innocence. You will now forevermore deny any notion of guilt.

So you live your life in denial of a feeling deeply hidden, that guilt of self hate you had to deny to survive as a child.

Guilt hidden is guilt from which one can’t heal, there can be no steal self understanding and no self forgiveness.

We are this. We are thus. We are the same. This is our condition. I was shown this and now I am telling you.

We are all in this cage. It has a door to freedom, the last place we want to look.

 

[Pohemi]

Yes, I understand this, at least conceptually. Studied Zen in college course on eastern religions. Also studied related philosphy.

But if you only read and studied it, you didn't truly awaken to it through the death of your own ego, and you still can't possibly understand the wisdom of the Moonpie. You are not fantastical enough.

Or something.

 

[eelw]

Lol he just doubles done on his delusion. As I keep saying, he’s a fortune cookie. Oh wait, a fortune cookie can be funny some of the time.

 

[Moonbeam]

Yes, I understand this, at least conceptually. Studied Zen in college course on eastern religions. Also studied related philosphy. Existentialism, existence precedes essence. Strip away the essence (i.e. identity produced by thought), and what is left is just being. Perception and thought produce artifical divisions. In a state of pure being, all divisions slip away and we're at one with the universe and each other.

But I asked the question what is it that left and right are opposite sides of. This provides no insight into the similarities and differences between these two groups.

I understand this clarification but I am not sure how to address it. The simple answer, in my opinion, is that the left and the right opposite view of of a single overarching truth where that truth touches on topics defined as political.

Thus there is a higher order unification of conservative and liberal views invisible to both sides but apparent to those who have experienced at one time or another this higher order awakening.

So I guess you could take anything conservatives and liberal disagree on as a place to start.

My favorite example would be welfare. Conservative believe if you give people money for free it will keep them dependent on hand outs instead of learning to stand on their own two feet. Liberals say that without helping such helpless people they will die.

Are both right? Are both wrong? Is there a higher order solution that resolves that issue? I think all answers are yes. I have used this example many tines here. Do you see an answer?

 

[Moonbeam]

Lol he just doubles done on his delusion. As I keep saying, he’s a fortune cookie. Oh wait, a fortune cookie can be funny some of the time.

Are you sure that when you say ‘you keep saying’ you aren’t actually just doubling down in confession that something is happening here and you don’t know what it is.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Lol he just doubles done on his delusion. As I keep saying, he’s a fortune cookie. Oh wait, a fortune cookie can be funny some of the time.

Also fortune cookies are brief. He's the better nate than lever joke as human being. After Jordan Peterson jacked off on it.

 

[Lanyap]

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[woolfe9998]

I understand this clarification but I am not sure how to address it. The simple answer, in my opinion, is that the left and the right opposite view of of a single overarching truth where that truth touches on topics defined as political.

Thus there is a higher order unification of conservative and liberal views invisible to both sides but apparent to those who have experienced at one time or another this higher order awakening.

So I guess you could take anything conservatives and liberal disagree on as a place to start.

My favorite example would be welfare. Conservative believe if you give people money for free it will keep them dependent on hand outs instead of learning to stand on their own two feet. Liberals say that without helping such helpless people they will die.

Are both right? Are both wrong? Is there a higher order solution that resolves that issue? I think all answers are yes. I have used this example many tines here. Do you see an answer?

You can find "answers" to questions like these without necessarily being "enlightened." Universal Basic Income (UBI) is a montly financial benefit going out to everyone, regardless of socio-economic or work status. So receiving the benefit does not discourage people from working.

I would also point out that we are in a process of the combination of automation and AI making it impossible to employ anywhere near the entire population with jobs. In that context, it doesn't matter if welfare programs discourage people from working. It then becomes academic - you either let some people starve or you don't. There is no other argument.

But I suspect this is nothing like the answer you were shooting for. Why don't you tell me "The Answer?"

 

[Moonbeam]

You can find "answers" to questions like these without necessarily being "enlightened." Universal Basic Income (UBI) is a montly financial benefit going out to everyone, regardless of socio-economic or work status. So receiving the benefit does not discourage people from working.

I would also point out that we are in a process of the combination of automation and AI making it impossible to employ anywhere near the entire population with jobs. In that context, it doesn't matter if welfare programs discourage people from working. It then becomes academic - you either let some people starve or you don't. There is no other argument.

But I suspect this is nothing like the answer you were shooting for. Why don't you tell me "The Answer?"

I have no problem with the notions you propose, but they apply to the future. The world is changing and changing fast.

I was referring to the classical disagreement that has gone on for years over welfare between the left and the right.

The left, in my opinion is right to help people at the bottom of the pile. Their incapacities and inabilities, mental problems drug addiction etc etc etc have rendered them self destructive and hopeless. They are in need of remediation and attitude adjustment. Liberals are wrong to think this can be fixed simply with money without doing much much more.

Conservatives are right that people simply do not value what comes for free without an effort to achieve there is no reward, no growth in a sense of self capacity. They are wrong to think this can happen without first addressing the fundamental psychological obstacles people face that make this possible

The answer is to give conditionally, to require some effort to get that implies one has earned. There is no need for the effort to have the market value of what is given. The sense of self achievement will take place anyway and produce a sense of pride.

This is clear when one understands that the enemy is self hate and achievement in the world is one end of the tunnel to dig for escape from such self destructive beliefs.

It's always hands off the real issue least they awaken self awareness. So one has to be self aware to see.

 

[shortylickens]

FUCKING REALLY, BITCH??!!!!

Arkansas Gov. Sanders signs $124 million tax cut into law

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) — Republican Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders on Monday signed into law a measure cutting individual and corporate income taxes in Arkansas by $124 million a year.

apnews.com

 

[MrSquished]

FUCKING REALLY, BITCH??!!!!

Arkansas Gov. Sanders signs $124 million tax cut into law

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) — Republican Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders on Monday signed into law a measure cutting individual and corporate income taxes in Arkansas by $124 million a year.

apnews.com

It's like a giant tumor on America, like the whole Deep South. We need to relocate all the Democrats from there, and then perform surgery and cut the malignancy out.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

But she wants to hide what she's doing and where she's going and even her fellow (R)s aren't buying it.

Proposal to change Arkansas FOIA law met with bipartisan opposition​

KTHV on MSN.com|9 hours ago
An Arkansas special session kicked off Monday and one big talker at the capitol was the proposed changes to the state's Freedom of Information Act.

Arkansas Advocate : Lawmakers, public await promised replacement for controversial Arkansas FOIA legislation​

Magnolia Reporter|11 hours ago
This week's special session of the Legislature, expected to be a smooth-sailing three days, hit a major snag on day one when a bill championed by Gov. Sarah Huckabee

Governor's effort to restrict public's access to Arkansas records stumbles at start of legislative session​

The Sentinel-Record|14 hours ago
Arkansas Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders' proposal to restrict the public's access to records about her administration, travel and security stumbled at the outset of a special legislative session that convened Monday,

 

[nakedfrog]

Oh, just completely normal, legitimate business man politician stuff. We have nothing to hide. Just don't ask too many questions and everything will be fine.

 

[MrSquished]

Instead of offering Federal aid to the leeches of our tax dollars, most of the red shithole states, we should take that money and offer to relocate anybody who can prove they are not a Republican, to better places to live.

 

[Pens1566]

Weaponize federalism ...

 

[HomerJS]

Biden needs to play more hardball with states like Arkansas and Florida.

Next red state disaster Biden needs to announce.

"The federal government is standing by ready to provide assistance to the people of __________. Law requires a request from the Governer of your state. Soon as I receive that phone call from your Governer, I will immediately declare a disaster and aid will proceed."

Those red state idiots will hesitate making a personal phone call to Biden and their citizens will suffer. I'm not advocating a delay or denial of aid, just follow the law to the letter.

 

[allisolm]

But she wants to hide what she's doing and where she's going and even her fellow (R)s aren't buying it.

Proposal to change Arkansas FOIA law met with bipartisan opposition​

KTHV on MSN.com|9 hours ago
An Arkansas special session kicked off Monday and one big talker at the capitol was the proposed changes to the state's Freedom of Information Act.

Arkansas Advocate : Lawmakers, public await promised replacement for controversial Arkansas FOIA legislation​

Magnolia Reporter|11 hours ago
This week's special session of the Legislature, expected to be a smooth-sailing three days, hit a major snag on day one when a bill championed by Gov. Sarah Huckabee

Governor's effort to restrict public's access to Arkansas records stumbles at start of legislative session​

The Sentinel-Record|14 hours ago
Arkansas Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders' proposal to restrict the public's access to records about her administration, travel and security stumbled at the outset of a special legislative session that convened Monday,

Give her credit for trying. After all, it worked for deSantis.

Florida GOP legislators agree to shield DeSantis travel records

“These are not changes made to benefit all Floridians. They are changes made to benefit one man and his political ambitions," said one Democrat.

www.politico.com