Sarah Huckabee Sanders vilifies socialism but wants the feds to come to Arkansas rescue

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nOOky

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Biden needs to play more hardball with states like Arkansas and Florida.

Next red state disaster Biden needs to announce.

"The federal government is standing by ready to provide assistance to the people of __________. Law requires a request from the Governer of your state. Soon as I receive that phone call from your Governer, I will immediately declare a disaster and aid will proceed."

Those red state idiots will hesitate making a personal phone call to Biden and their citizens will suffer. I'm not advocating a delay or denial of aid, just follow the law to the letter.

That's the thing, Biden always does the right thing, and still he gets criticized for it. Look how quickly they jumped his shit for the fire in Maui response. I'm okay with your suggestion, if he is going to do the time, he may as well do the crime and fuck those red states with their effed up leadership.
 

HomerJS

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That's the thing, Biden always does the right thing, and still he gets criticized for it. Look how quickly they jumped his shit for the fire in Maui response. I'm okay with your suggestion, if he is going to do the time, he may as well do the crime and fuck those red states with their effed up leadership.
I think it would be effective. Remember that asshole DeSantis didn't bother appearing with Biden in Florida. He's one of those people who would balk at making that call. When he finally calls White House should publish the date/time.
 
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GoPackGo

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I am tired of my tax dollars going to people who continue to live in dangerous areas. I am tired of my insurance rates going up for the same reason. These aren't natural disasters, they are inevitabilities.
 

Pohemi

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Instead of offering Federal aid to the leeches of our tax dollars, most of the red shithole states, we should take that money and offer to relocate anybody who can prove they are not a Republican, to better places to live.
That might sound good on paper, but I think it's a dangerous road to start down TBH. It's seeking "proof" of one identity that not all Democrat/liberal voters (or NOT a voter) might be able to prove, and punishing those who cannot along with the conservatives you wish to ostracize. In the end, it's just more divisiveness driven into the country.

"Show me your papers."

I am tired of my tax dollars going to people who continue to live in dangerous areas. I am tired of my insurance rates going up for the same reason. These aren't natural disasters, they are inevitabilities.
Didn't someone else here propose the same?

"That's what they get for living where they do."

That's a hard one for me to agree with, TBH. There's a LOT of landspace that is prone to Hurricanes, wildfires, earthquakes, drought, etc. To not expect anyone to live in areas where those happen is to expect everyone to cram into the middle of the country. Logistically, that's not feasible, IMHO.

I think it would be effective. Remember that asshole DeSantis didn't bother appearing with Biden in Florida. He's one of those people who would balk at making that call. When he finally calls White House should publish the date/time.
Yep, acting like toddlers who think they're too good to make that call. It's unfortunate that you can't punish DeSantis in that situation without punishing the citizens he represents. Sure he got elected, but not everyone voted for him. Not everyone deserves to be punished or ignored because DeSantis is acting like a shithead.
 
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That's a hard one for me to agree with, TBH. There's a LOT of landspace that is prone to Hurricanes, wildfires, earthquakes, drought, etc. To not expect anyone to live in areas where those happen is to expect everyone to cram into the middle of the country. Logistically, that's not feasible, IMHO.
We can require rebuilding that leads to more resiliency, or buyouts that move people off land that can't be made more resilient. Our self-inflicted sprawl continues to pay dividends and greatly contributes to these problems as wetlands get drained and people move further into floodplains or fire country.
 
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Pohemi

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We can require rebuilding that leads to more resiliency, or buyouts that move people off land that can't be made more resilient. Our self-inflicted sprawl continues to pay dividends and greatly contributes to these problems as wetlands get drained and people move further into floodplains or fire country.
Sprawl is a big problem in many areas and especially cities, but again...logistics. Will the government start buying up all land on the coasts, all of FL, all of CA, all of AZ, etc. and force everyone off those lands? I can't see that happening.

I'm all for stricter building codes in areas prone to various disasters, but you cannot force people off of such wide regions of land. Again, I just don't see it as a realistic proposal.

TBF, I think climate change making these disasters worse and more frequent will start to affect how/where people will live. It's just going to be a long, painful process and cost the country trillions in the long run.
 
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Sprawl is a big problem in many areas and especially cities, but again...logistics. Will the government start buying up all land on the coasts, all of FL, all of CA, all of AZ, etc. and force everyone off those lands? I can't see that happening.

I'm all for stricter building codes in areas prone to various disasters, but you cannot force people off of such wide regions of land. Again, I just don't see it as a realistic proposal.
The first step is to stop encouraging further sprawl: liberalize zoning in cities and suburbs to allow people to build more density, be it a duplex in a suburb or an apartment building next to a metro stop, and then people can actually choose to live where they might want to live, instead of economics forcing them further and further out from job centers.

As for buyouts, that likely needs an actuarial analysis of properties that keep getting damaged: buyout the ones that are in specific areas that are in the top percentages for repeat costly damage.
 
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HomerJS

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Yep, acting like toddlers who think they're too good to make that call. It's unfortunate that you can't punish DeSantis in that situation without punishing the citizens he represents. Sure he got elected, but not everyone voted for him. Not everyone deserves to be punished or ignored because DeSantis is acting like a shithead.
Biden wouldn't be punishing them, DeSantis would.
 

Pohemi

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Biden wouldn't be punishing them, DeSantis would.
In theory, sure. But DeSantis isn't the one approving federal funding that the state sorely needs during disasters, sending in FEMA, etc.

It strikes me as punishing everyone in the state for how DeSantis is acting childish, even if affecting everyone isn't the goal, that's what the effect is.

I guess that's just how my mind processes it, anyway.
 
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As for buyouts, that likely needs an actuarial analysis of properties that keep getting damaged: buyout the ones that are in specific areas that are in the top percentages for repeat costly damage.
Ohman… the cluster fuck that occurred after Katrina happened in New Orleans would be a test case for that.
 
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hal2kilo

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That might sound good on paper, but I think it's a dangerous road to start down TBH. It's seeking "proof" of one identity that not all Democrat/liberal voters (or NOT a voter) might be able to prove, and punishing those who cannot along with the conservatives you wish to ostracize. In the end, it's just more divisiveness driven into the country.

"Show me your papers."


Didn't someone else here propose the same?

"That's what they get for living where they do."

That's a hard one for me to agree with, TBH. There's a LOT of landspace that is prone to Hurricanes, wildfires, earthquakes, drought, etc. To not expect anyone to live in areas where those happen is to expect everyone to cram into the middle of the country. Logistically, that's not feasible, IMHO.


Yep, acting like toddlers who think they're too good to make that call. It's unfortunate that you can't punish DeSantis in that situation without punishing the citizens he represents. Sure he got elected, but not everyone voted for him. Not everyone deserves to be punished or ignored because DeSantis is acting like a shithead.
Maybe a lot less would vote for him in the future if his ungrateful behavior was why they didn't get all of the help they deserve. People have to learn, your vote choices have consequences.
 
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hal2kilo

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You lied at every new conference you had, so this comes as no surprise. Keep up the good work.


Democratic National Committee Chair Jaime Harrison blasted Sanders and her father, Mike Huckabee — the former governor of Arkansas — over the alleged scandal. "Her daddy is Mike Huckabee," Harrison wrote on X, formerly Twitter. "She lied every day to the press on behalf of Trump … who on this spinning blue ball called Earth is surprised that Sarah is as crooked as a barrel of fish hooks?!"