Santana makes me laugh, rips on Eminem

[shiner]

Originally posted by: konichiwa
Too bad shinerburke has nothing left to say

I went to bed....had to get up today and do that whole work thing.

How about we just agree to disagree? One last thing though....I have a problem with anything based on music being referred to as a culture. I have a friend who is a jazz drummer, and a damn good one, and even he hates getting tagged with being part of the so called jazz culture.

 

[ndee]

Originally posted by: Yield
I wish everyone would do that.. Eminem is such a dumbass... he sucks, SO much.

I think Eminem is pretty smart, the media just wants a bad boy, and they've choosen him.

 

[mpitts]

Originally posted by: ScottyB

Originally posted by: BD231

Originally posted by: ScottyB
I don't understand why people listen to the crap they call rap. It seems very degrading to our culture and I am ashamed that it is the so called music of my generation. Flame me all you want but I have came upon that conclusion myself and it's not like I was not around it like some of the older people here. I am 19 and hate the stuff. It hurts my brain when I hear the recycled beats and filth the rappers intermit between the beats using a very bad form of rhyme. It's not like they have true talent. If they actually wanted to use their abilities they would be writing poems with deep symbolisms and not rhymes with the depth of a kiddy pool for retarded children.

Read a thread before you post in it, the mere fact that you don't listen to it voids your statement, you know nothing about the music.

A song for all the people who think rappers talk about nothing meaningful

I hear rap all the time, it surrounds me and is almost impossible to escape. Everyone I know plays it in their cars and etc..I don't play it because I can't stand it. How would you like it if I forced you to listen to people scratching a blackboard with their fingernails and called it music?

I'd say "Turn off that Yoko Ono album."

Rap, just like every other genre of music, takes talent to create. Just because YOU don't believe it doesn't mean it isn't true.

BTW, poems with deep symbolisms are not marketable. The music buisness is about MONEY. If you could write a rap album and be paid a million dollars or write a book of poems and get paid ZERO dollars, which would you do?

 

[ndee]

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: ScottyB

Originally posted by: BD231

Originally posted by: ScottyB
I don't understand why people listen to the crap they call rap. It seems very degrading to our culture and I am ashamed that it is the so called music of my generation. Flame me all you want but I have came upon that conclusion myself and it's not like I was not around it like some of the older people here. I am 19 and hate the stuff. It hurts my brain when I hear the recycled beats and filth the rappers intermit between the beats using a very bad form of rhyme. It's not like they have true talent. If they actually wanted to use their abilities they would be writing poems with deep symbolisms and not rhymes with the depth of a kiddy pool for retarded children.

Read a thread before you post in it, the mere fact that you don't listen to it voids your statement, you know nothing about the music.

A song for all the people who think rappers talk about nothing meaningful

I hear rap all the time, it surrounds me and is almost impossible to escape. Everyone I know plays it in their cars and etc..I don't play it because I can't stand it. How would you like it if I forced you to listen to people scratching a blackboard with their fingernails and called it music?

I'd say "Turn off that Yoko Ono album."

Rap, just like every other genre of music, takes talent to create. Just because YOU don't believe it doesn't mean it isn't true.

BTW, poems with deep symbolisms are not marketable. The music buisness is about MONEY. If you could write a rap album and be paid a million dollars or write a book of poems and get paid ZERO dollars, which would you do?

A lot of you are confusing real hip hop and rap with this pop-rnb or pop hip hop. Ja Rule != Hip hop, J-Lo != RnB. Get that in your heads.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: AsianriceX

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
The most talented rapper I know surrounded my milky way bar.

I miss it.

Milky Way? Guh! Gimme Snickers anyday.

Not going anywhere?

Grab a snickers

 

[mpitts]

Originally posted by: ndee

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: ScottyB

Originally posted by: BD231

Originally posted by: ScottyB
I don't understand why people listen to the crap they call rap. It seems very degrading to our culture and I am ashamed that it is the so called music of my generation. Flame me all you want but I have came upon that conclusion myself and it's not like I was not around it like some of the older people here. I am 19 and hate the stuff. It hurts my brain when I hear the recycled beats and filth the rappers intermit between the beats using a very bad form of rhyme. It's not like they have true talent. If they actually wanted to use their abilities they would be writing poems with deep symbolisms and not rhymes with the depth of a kiddy pool for retarded children.

Read a thread before you post in it, the mere fact that you don't listen to it voids your statement, you know nothing about the music.

A song for all the people who think rappers talk about nothing meaningful

I hear rap all the time, it surrounds me and is almost impossible to escape. Everyone I know plays it in their cars and etc..I don't play it because I can't stand it. How would you like it if I forced you to listen to people scratching a blackboard with their fingernails and called it music?

I'd say "Turn off that Yoko Ono album."

Rap, just like every other genre of music, takes talent to create. Just because YOU don't believe it doesn't mean it isn't true.

BTW, poems with deep symbolisms are not marketable. The music buisness is about MONEY. If you could write a rap album and be paid a million dollars or write a book of poems and get paid ZERO dollars, which would you do?

A lot of you are confusing real hip hop and rap with this pop-rnb or pop hip hop. Ja Rule != Hip hop, J-Lo != RnB. Get that in your heads.

I agree. People who judge a genre of music by what they see on MTV or hear on the radio are ignorant.

 

[ndee]

Originally posted by: mpitts
I agree. People who judge a genre of music by what they see on MTV or hear on the radio are ignorant.

You, my friend, are a wise man

 

[konichiwa]

<< What if I told you that rap and hiphop are just plain BAD. I'm 19 (not an old timer by any means) and I think rap is one of the worst things to happen to this world. There is plenty of good music comming out these days (Nightwish, Therion, Tool, SOAD, Bond etc), but rap and hiphop isn't it. >>

I would tell you that that may be your opinion and you are welcome to it but you are missing a great amount of culture and experience. Personally, I think Tool and the like are crap and although I have plenty of friends who love and swear by them and that type of music, it sounds to me like just a bunch of people screaming and playing power chords as loud as possible.

My opinion and I'm welcome to it, but I don't dismiss the "tool movement" as a bunch of idiots who can't make art. And by doing that to rap you are only showing your ignorance and close mindedness. It's sad.

<< How about we just agree to disagree? One last thing though....I have a problem with anything based on music being referred to as a culture. I have a friend who is a jazz drummer, and a damn good one, and even he hates getting tagged with being part of the so called jazz culture. >>

Fair enough, but you have it backwards. Culture is based on popular experience, and music (of any form) is a PRODUCT of a culture. Music itself is not the culture, music is one piece that make up the whole.

Hip Hop is an extension of Jazz and Rock and Roll, which were created as, in Jazz's case, a birth of the individual as the artist as opposed to the band (think Louis Armstrong), and in Rock and Roll's case, a defiance that created the 60's and 70's subculture (think Rolling Stones, Elvis although earlier, Led Zeppelin, etc, etc) which are an extension of Blues, which is an extension of Ragtime, which is an extension of slave spirituals, which is an extension of african tribal music. It goes all the way back, and every one of those I listed is a product of circumstance, in one form or another, therefore becoming part of a larger culture.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I find this a little sad. No doubt Santana is a true talent, but to me this is just a sour-grapes comment by a guy who is jealous of Eminem's present relevance as an artist. I am not particularly an Eminem fan, but he is undoubtedly talented and brings real emotion to his music.