Sandy Bridge design flaw - Intel halted on NASDAQ - updated 2/8/11.

[F1shF4t]

Intel Rapid Storage Technology is software, and in general software people don't have the slightest idea about hardware.

Do you have a Sandy Bridge computer? Do you have six sata ports?

If so, port 0, 1 are the 6Gb/sec ports and will not be affected by the Intel recall. Ports 2-5 are the suspect ports.

-John

Hence why I tried to check for some physical proof. Its works fine atm so won't worry about it.

Will see what HP's stance on this issue is. If they do end up doing a recal might take advantage of it and get the local store I bought it from to order me one with a 2720qm i7 as replacement

 

[Zorkorist]

Might I borrow your Sandy Bridge Computer tommorow night? I have a date.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

Hence why I tried to check for some physical proof. Its works fine atm so won't worry about it.

Will see what HP's stance on this issue is. If they do end up doing a recal might take advantage of it and get the local store I bought it from to order me one with a 2720qm i7 as replacement

Good luck to you. obv... the stress alone should be worth something, although it's a damned pity we are here today.

-John

 

[kingznake]

just checked sata ports, BIOS wont show me how many i have...

 

[IntelUser2000]

They are fortunate that they caught the errata before the Core i3 and the Pentium chips started shipping, which from the original date is Feb 20. That's also when the mobile dual cores start to flood. The Core i5 and the i7 parts take miniscule amount of volume.

 

[Zorkorist]

K, then, I don't know, kingsnake.

I'm a bit jealous, but I don't know.

-John

 

[kingznake]

oh well ive spent like 13 hours trying to find some solid info, and came back with very little...oh well

 

[Zorkorist]

You have solid info, you don't have exact info.

This is 13 hours after Intel published the problem.

You are way ahead of most people, and I will buy you a sata sontroller, if it comes down to that.

-John

 

[kingznake]

You have solid info, you don't have exact info.

This is 13 hours after Intel published the problem.

You are way ahead of most people, and I will buy you a sata sontroller, if it comes down to that.

-John

I dont think a sata controller would work with my laptop haha. well im gonna sit tight, see what happens

 

[Zorkorist]

Nothing in BIOS? Normally it would show all your sata ports, and which are being used.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

They are fortunate that they caught the errata before the Core i3 and the Pentium chips started shipping, which from the original date is Feb 20. That's also when the mobile dual cores start to flood. The Core i5 and the i7 parts take miniscule amount of volume.

I don't think there is anything fortunate at all... huge losses for Intel and their partners.

-John

 

[kingznake]

Nothing in BIOS? Normally it would show all your sata ports, and which are being used.

-John

Nope, unfortunatly, its show nothing about sata ports whatsoever.

 

[IntelUser2000]

I don't think there is anything fortunate at all... huge losses for Intel and their partners.

-John

That is true, but you seemed to have just skimmed through the sentence. It could have been worse. If the problem was found say in May, it would have cost Intel not $1 billion, but several billion. Since the ramp up is still slow now, and high volume processors aren't available, the impact is minimized.

 

[Zorkorist]

No, it couldn't be worse.

The ramp us is the huge cost, not rolling the assembly line.

Intel's liability is huge for this pronlem, and it didn't exist yesterday.

As I have said, it was flubbed. No way you take full responsibility when sata 0,1 work, and 2-5 might die.

It's ridiculous, when you think about it.

-John

 

[IntelUser2000]

No, it couldn't be worse.

Do you SERIOUSLY believe that? Ok, then, if you are adamant I can't change how you want to think.

Nope, unfortunatly, its show nothing about sata ports whatsoever.

The best way is to ask the manufacturer, period. Every single chipset except the B65 chipset support 2 SATA 6G ports, and B65 support only 1.

 

[VirtualLarry]

No not a CPU issue but a motherboard chip issue.


If intel would have let others make chipsets, like in the rambus days, this would not be as bad. But for the next several months there will be no good chipsets on the retail market.

Yes. I hope the FTC takes note, because having only one supplier for chipsets is bad for the market.

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

I think Intel fooled everyone

This was in 2002

INTEL SAID it will buy back a further 480 million shares.
The move is part of a stock repurchase programme. Since that started in 1990 and up until the third quarter of this year, Intel bought back 1.7 billion shares costing it a cool $29 billion.
So far, in this quarter, Intel has bought 44 million shares costing it around $725 million or so.
The Intel (INTC) share price currently stands at $18.12. µ

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1019569/intel-continues-share-buyback#ixzz1ChiGDBZ5

-------------sell sell sell sell sell sell sell sell sell sell ooh stocks back cheaper we can save a billion buy buy buy buy buy buy--------------------

http://www.intc.com/stockBuyBack.cfm

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[smakme7757]

I'm just going to sit on my board for a while. I'll RMA it if Gigabyte has an announcement and will do it in a timely manner. Either way as an early adopter i was prepaired for something like this so i'm not that dissapointed .

Either way when the Revision 2.0 boards come out i'll be buying one of them anyhow and considering this problem (if i have an affected chip) won't begin to cause problem until a year from now.

Annoyed, yes, but i knew i would be in for a surprise one way or the other when being an early adopter!

 

[VirtualLarry]

uhhhh

So how are you are protected when start of each EULA says:

Do not Copy, Install, or use materials provided under this license agreement until you have carefully read the following terms and conditions:

And under Part 6:
Limitation of Liability.

Its one of the ONLY SECTIONS which u see in ALL CAPS.


So according to EULA, you had to read the EULA, and accept the limited liability on the product before you could even use the product.

What the hell are you talking about. There's no EULA on hardware. I don't have to agree to anything, before I wire together my SB rig and set it up.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Section6:

Limitation of Liability:
The above replacement provision is the only warranty of any kind. Intel offers no other warrenty either expressed or implied including those of merchantability, noninfrigement of third-party intellectual property or fitness for any particular purpose. Neither intel nor its suppliers shall be liable for any damages whatsoever (including, without limition, damages for loss of business profits, business interruption, loss of business information or other losses) arising out of the use of or inability to use the software, even if intel has been advised of the possibility of such damages.

Class action lawsuit that.

id like to see how far it goes.

Uhm, Aigo, that clearly says "SOFTWARE". Not hardware.

 

[Continuity28]

I feel so sorry for all of you who already bought Sandy Bridge.

Don't be. My SSD, two storage hard drives, and DVD drive are being safely used on the unaffected 6gb ports provided by Intel and Marvell.

Some of us haven't lost anything from this discovery, but we do have an otherwise excellent system today.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Since the issue is only with 6gbps ports, why doesn't intel just have the manu disable the 6gbps slots and sell the existing boards as 3gbps at a discounted rate?

Try to keep up, will you?

 

[Mem]

I posted this statement from OCuK in motherboard forums but I know some of you don't go there,


http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18236710

Hi there


The potential problem as outlined by Intel® is as follows:-

In some cases, motherboards featuring the 6 Series Chipset (P67 & H67) that have Sata devices connected to ports 2-5 could potentially degrade over time.
Motherboards with devices connected to Ports 0 & 1 remain unaffected or using the 6G ports.
PLEASE NOTE THERE IS NO POTENTIAL ISSUE TO SANDYBRIDGE PROCESSORS, this communication refers only to Sandybridge motherboards using P67 & H67 chipset ONLY.


OcUK has been advised by Intel that there may be a potential issue regarding Sandy Bridge and the P67 Chipset.

There is considered to be no immediate threat, and Intel recommends customers not to panic, as this is, at this stage, considered to be a precautionary measure.

OcUK are in discussion with Intel as to the finer details of the issue, and at present there is no need for customers to return products, and this will continue to be the case until such time as Intel advise on any necessary course of action.

In light of these events, OcUK has left Sandybridge based products on sale and should any issues arise all customers will be covered, we shall be adding disclaimers to all P67 mainboards tomorrow stating this and that all customers will be covered.

All customers will be contacted once we have received a definitive Returns Procedure from Intel, should this be the case.

At present, there is no immediate threat / danger / risk of damage to CPUs, Motherboards or Systems, and we urge that customers continue to use their systems as normal.

Any required replacements will be handled efficiently, and any further updates will be announced via the website and forums.

At this time, we would request that customers do not contact us with regards to this issue, as we are of course fully aware, and will publish all information as we have it via our website and forums.

Please avoid contacting us regarding this particular issue as it just swallows up resources, where the information has already been made available via our website/forums, and we will continue to inform of any updates ongoing etc.


So right now its all a bit of an unknown, we shall know a lot more over the next couple of days and if a recall is actioned instructions shall be posted on the website and forum.

As we know more we shall pass it onto our customers.

They are still selling 1155 boards in the UK at this time.

 

[86waterpumper]

I do not own one of these affected systems, I contemplated going that route but ended up being impatient and wanted to build around christmas or right after so I went with a amd rig.
I hate it for all those that have to fool with this bug. With that being said it is NOT a viable solution to issue a bunch of add on cards. Alot of people have purchased systems pre built and would be scared to take the outer cover of a computer off. They are not even going to switch the cable to the 6gig sata ports let alone add on a hard drive card
Intel motherboards are notoriously high to begin with so I would be ill as heck if a 200 or 300 dollar motherboard was running with some jury rigged card solution. Let's not forget also that add on cards like this slow down boot up time.
Does it suck for Intel? Sure it does, but it's not the consumer's fault is it.

 

[bryanW1995]

StinkyPinky...from above!

There are already people who have RMA's active that have now had their money refunded and will have to wait for new boards.

or they can buy a new board on ebay for $1k