Sandy Bridge design flaw - Intel halted on NASDAQ - updated 2/8/11.

[Zorkorist]

They should have offered SATA cards to anyone that asked.

To reboot Sandy Bridge is outrageous.

-John

 

[endlessmike133]

They should have offered SATA cards to anyone that asked.

To reboot Sandy Bridge is outrageous.

-John

seriously screw newegg and all the other retailers that just impulsively snatched sb cpus and mobos off the market like IDIOTS!

 

[Locut0s]

Here is what NCIX will be doing so far for those of you who are our customers:

http://forums.ncix.com/forums/?mode...did=2309652&pagenumber=1&msgcount=1&subpage=1

 

[Zorkorist]

HAHA suckers, AMD for life! Just kidding, I've build only a handfull of AMD desktops in the last 2 years, this is going to be a major pain in the neck for us. Ugh. Why Intel why.

You honestly think this is an acceptable solution that Intel would pursue?

Everyone? And everyone wants to use some cheap aftermarket SATA card?

Do you work for Intel?

I'm in the computer business, and this affects me greatly.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

seriously screw newegg and all the other retailers that just impulsively snatched sb cpus and mobos off the market like IDIOTS!

Intel told them to. But somebody at the top of Intel is very wrong about this. It's an easy fix, with a SATA card.

-John

 

[Locut0s]

Intel told them to. But somebody at the top of Intel is very wrong about this. It's an easy fix, with a SATA card.

-John

Seems like we have not yet removed our boards and CPUs for sale. At least they are still available as of now on our web site. However this may change as the situation evolves.

 

[taltamir]

Sandy bridge doesn't have a design flaw...
the H67 / P67 chipset for sandy bridge has the design flaw. They messed up its SATA controller. It was found and fixed, but will cause delays.

 

[AnandThenMan]

Intel told them to. But somebody at the top of Intel is very wrong about this. It's an easy fix, with a SATA card.

-John

With all due respect, for Intel so put out a band-aid solution that you suggest would be very ill advised. I can think of numerous reasons why it is a very bad idea.
Luckily Intel is not so foolish to do what you are suggesting.

 

[drizek]

Here is what NCIX will be doing so far for those of you who are our customers:

http://forums.ncix.com/forums/?mode...did=2309652&pagenumber=1&msgcount=1&subpage=1

"ones that access read-only media (ie DVD burner)."

...

Might want to fix that

 

[Zorkorist]

It's not a band-aid. It's a computer, and one thing that computers do is adapt.

The guy at Intel was foolish. It's an easy fix.

-John

 

[taltamir]

They should have offered SATA cards to anyone that asked.

To reboot Sandy Bridge is outrageous.

-John

that is an outrageous solution that would have done untold harm to their good name.
Replacing the defective chips with working ones is the correct solution.

 

[Zorkorist]

Do you understand anandtheman, that Intel is talking about taking a 1 billion dollar loss for this "fiasco?"

One Billion dollars.

-John

 

[Patrick Wolf]

 

[taltamir]

Do you understand anandtheman, that Intel is talking about taking a 1 billion dollar loss for this "fiasco?"

One Billion dollars.

-John

the article said 300 million. They still expect 11.7 billion for their first quarter.

The damage to their good name would cost them even more, and the idea of offering free SATA cards with each mobo sold would have potentially cost even more money.

 

[Zorkorist]

that is an outrageous solution that would have done untold harm to their good name.
Replacing the defective chips with working ones is the correct solution.

No, as I have said, giving SATA controllers to people that are affected is the proper solutiion.

Their name is fine, and/or Intel.

The costs of a Sandy Bridge reboot are enormous... and you and I will pay for it in the end.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

the article said 300 million. They still expect 11.7 billion for their first quarter.

The damage to their good name would cost them even more, and the idea of offering free SATA cards with each mobo sold would have potentially cost even more money.

300 Million in lost sales, that they hope to parlay against 2010 Taxes. Another 700 Million this year as they try and ramp up, and repair all the damage they have done.

1 Billion Dollars.

When a few hundred thousand SATA cards would do.

-John

 

[AdamK47]

I feel so sorry for all of you who already bought Sandy Bridge.

 

[Zorkorist]

Don't feel sorry, as we have a 25/600K CPU and a Motherboard with expansion slots.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

I feel sorry for the folks that have to wait until April for Sandy Bridge (2)

-John

 

[Locut0s]

Zorkist - What do you do in the computer industry? I'm just in retail sales (ncix) but this is going to affect us too.

 

[AdamK47]

Don't feel sorry, as we have a 25/600K CPU and a Motherboard with expansion slots.

-John

Now that's the optimist spirit! Turn lemons into lemonade and so on and so forth.

 

[AnandThenMan]

No, as I have said, giving SATA controllers to people that are affected is the proper solutiion.

Their name is fine, and/or Intel.

The costs of a Sandy Bridge reboot are enormous... and you and I will pay for it in the end.

-John

Your "solution" sounds just as stupid the 10th time you post it as the first. Please just stop.

Intel has to fix this problem by recalling everything. If they don't, and start shipping out SATA cards, who is going to install them? Dell? You? A third party tech? What if the card never gets installed, and data corruption occurs? Who will foot the bill for that? Who will take the fall when systems get corrupt, that doesn't make a good headline. And I'm only scratching the surface.

Worse, you are suggesting that Intel ship out cards to people affected. So wait until the chipset fails, then fix it. Horrible.

Think, just think.

 

[Zorkorist]

Intel has already stated that data corruption doesn't occur. 5-15% of machines will lose coomunication with a SATA 3Gb/sec drive over 3-Years. It won't hurt the drive, just the controller will be so degraded, it won't see the drive.

Get your facts straight!

Since the two 6Gb/sec ports are 0 and 1, only people with 3 or more SATA devices are going to be affected.

I think this means notebooks are safe, and a lot of desktops too.

But if you like to see companies make criminally insane decisions, then a full recall of Cougar Point is right for you.

-John

 

[Dadofamunky]

They should have offered SATA cards to anyone that asked.

To reboot Sandy Bridge is outrageous.

-John

I've been doing this kinda thing for a long time (seriously, since 80286-10 days) and I have NEVER seen an entire CPU launch aborted and all chips and mobos taken OFF the market from ALL retailers. That alone makes it stand out, in my view.

I think it actually is kind of a big deal, but I'm also congratulating myself that I did my build before this happened, and got an Asus board which has 4 SATA-3 ports so I'm GTG going forward. I may swap the board, but I have no sense of urgency.

Meanwhile this will really rob Sandy Bridge of market momentum and possibly harm Intel more than they're letting on. C'mon! a whole generation of laptops, including Apple's, delayed for possibly months? This is a VERY big deal. The only thing that will save them is that AMD is worse than useless in that area except the extreme value end. On the desktop side I don't think it's quite as significant 'cause let's face it, we are a tiny slice of the pie. Like others have mentioned, most people will just obliviously continue on buying generic Dell desktops.

I just drove by Intel's main offices this evening on my way elsewhere. I'll bet there were some very red faces there today and will be tomorrow. Even for Intel, a billion dollars is nothing to sneeze at.

 

[mv2devnull]

It's an easy fix, with a SATA card.

Would you be so kind and give a link to cards that do have four SATA2 ports and do provide Intel RAID just like the chipset does?