San Jose police are sued for putting Trump supporters in danger.

[Greenman]

You have some stones calling an African American, a racist but your posting history here shows you calling just about anyone who disagrees with you
a racist.
You are grade a trump material. I am sure he'll throw a couple extra bucks your way.

Yet you're the fellow who brought the guys race into the discussion, and tried to use it to belittle another member.
Your brand of hate is no better nor more palatable than any other.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

In a similar, but unrelated story the Mayor of Portland ordered his police department NOT to respond to ICE 9-1-1 calls for help.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/30/portland-police-ice-911-calls/

"Portland, Oregon, police refused to respond to at least two 911 emergency calls from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) employees inside their offices where violent protesters held week-long demonstrations.

The National Immigration and Customs Enforcement Council, a union representing ICE employees, wrote a cease-and-desist letter to Mayor Ted Wheeler, asking him to ensure the police enforce the law equally and protect innocent people.

“Your current policy forbidding Portland law enforcement agencies from assisting employees of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency who request law enforcement assistance while at or away from work is a violation of the United States Constitution’s Equal Protection Clause,” the letter says.

Demonstrators, some affiliated with the domestic terrorist organization Antifa, set up a city of tents outside the ICE offices. After setting up camp, they became violent and incited violence several times."


http://thehill.com/latino/399628-ic...a-zone-of-terror-and-lawlessness-with-protest

"The union representing thousands of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents is reportedly accusing the mayor of Portland, Ore., of violating the Constitution for allowing protests outside an ICE center.

The Washington Times reported that the National ICE Council, which represents around 7,600 ICE agents and staff members, said in a letter to the city on Monday that Mayor Ted Wheeler (D) had "turned the lives of our employees over to an angry mob."



“The mayor stated publicly that he supported the protests, which were supposed to be about protecting immigrant families. But what about the moms and dads that we had working in that building? What about their kids?” Chris Crane, the union's president, told the Times. “These are questions that we’ll be expecting the mayor and city of Portland to be answering in the days to come.”"

The letter, which also accuses Portland authorities of creating “a zone of terror and lawlessness," demands the city take steps to support ICE personnel in the building or risk a lawsuit.

 

[HomerJS]

You are speaking for yourself of course. You're the racist here, not me.

Oh I forgot. Pointing out unequal treatment of blacks by police is the real racism.

What the hell was I thinking?

 

[fskimospy]

Probably just a few bad apples, it doesn't say anything about SJPD as a whole. The important thing here is that blue lives matter and if we criticize the police they may be afraid to do their jobs and thus put us all in danger. These are hard working people that go to work every day to protect you and you should try showing a little respect sometime instead of assuming the worst every time a minority group says they did something wrong.

Am I doing this right?

 

[dainthomas]

(many lulz)

"The union representing thousands of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents is reportedly accusing the mayor of Portland, Ore., of violating the Constitution for allowing protests outside an ICE center.

(and still more lulz)

"violating the Constitution for allowing protests"

That quote must make perfect sense in backwards 'mentally disabled Dump supporter'-Land.

Snowflake ICE employees give no craps about stealing kids who look different from them, but shake in their boots when those evil liberals call them out for it using loud voices and signs. OH MY GOD THE SIGNS! SO MEAN!!
Why can't the cops taze and tear gas peaceful protesters like they're supposed to? Don't they realize they're making people feel uncomfortable?!?

 

[soundforbjt]

"The union representing thousands of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents is reportedly accusing the mayor of Portland, Ore., of violating the Constitution for allowing protests outside an ICE center.

The Washington Times reported that the National ICE Council, which represents around 7,600 ICE agents and staff members, said in a letter to the city on Monday that Mayor Ted Wheeler (D) had "turned the lives of our employees over to an angry mob."

Screw unions...isn't that the Trumpettes view?

 

[esquared]

Love the lulz here - insinuating that one cannot be racist because of their own race. The ignorance is.... hilarious. One must have their head shoved pretty far up one's ass to perceive that in life.

I never said anything of the sort. Reading comprehension seems to be your problem.
You're nothing but a perpetually angry 20something.
STFU.

 

[Amused]

The real question is this:

Is marching for white supremacy, racism and bigotry a threat of violence in itself?

I say yes. If your ideology dehumanizes and advocates for the harm of others, your activism and speech in support of that ideology is a very real threat of violence in and of itself.

 

[esquared]

Yet you're the fellow who brought the guys race into the discussion, and tried to use it to belittle another member.
Your brand of hate is no better nor more palatable than any other.

You too have a reading comprehension problem.
Those two others brought up the racism issue with their posts.
I just called them out on their racism and their bullshit..
Don't try to turn this around on me. I just keep shining that bright light everytime it needs to
be exposed.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Oh I forgot. Pointing out unequal treatment of blacks by police is the real racism.

What the hell was I thinking?

You are the one that said I don't mind it. Wrong of course.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

The real question is this:

Is marching for white supremacy, racism and bigotry a threat of violence in itself?

I say yes. If your ideology dehumanizes and advocates for the harm of others, your activism and speech in support of that ideology is a very real threat of violence in and of itself.

So your opinion is that the people that were supporting Trump in this 2016 rally were actually supporting white supremacy, racism and bigotry and that any and all violence against any supporter of this Republican presidential candidate was legal and well deserved? Sounds so very Constitutional.

 

[imported_tajmahal]

Yet you're the fellow who brought the guys race into the discussion, and tried to use it to belittle another member.
Your brand of hate is no better nor more palatable than any other.

He seems to think that someones race can make them immune from being a racist.

 

[Amused]

So your opinion is that the people that were supporting Trump in this 2016 rally were actually supporting white supremacy, racism and bigotry and that any and all violence against any supporter of this Republican presidential candidate was legal and well deserved? Sounds so very Constitutional.

At what time should the Jews (and the world) have stood up to Hitler and the Nazis? Before, or after the Holocaust?

Before or after his book was published?

Before or after his beer hall putsch?

Before or after he was elected?

Before or after the Reichstag fire?

Before or after he took power?

Before or after the pogroms?

Before or after Kristallnacht?

Before or after they were rounded up and put in ghettos?

Before, or after the holocaust?

At what precise time in history was it the right, and effective time to stop Hitler, the Nazis and their supporters/enablers?

White supremacists and those who support them are inherently uncivil and intolerant and not deserving of civil discourse nor tolerance themselves.

The rise of Hitler and Nazi Germany stand as a warning about the tolerance of intolerance.

 

[fskimospy]

You are the one that said I don't mind it. Wrong of course.

Do you think police mistreatment of black people or Trump supporters is the larger problem?

 

[Greenman]

He seems to think that someones race can make them immune from being a racist.

I happen to believe that everyone is a little bit raciest. Isn't skin color the very first thing we note about every single person we meet? Don't we all participate in at least one or two stereotypes? I think we're just wired that way. Most of us don't let that color (pun not intended) our judgement.
One of my employees is black, he often talks about how weird white people are, and the funny way we speak. Isn't that raciest?

 

[JSt0rm]

I guess the trump supporters really do want a safe space.

 

[JSt0rm]

I happen to believe that everyone is a little bit raciest. Isn't skin color the very first thing we note about every single person we meet? Don't we all participate in at least one or two stereotypes? I think we're just wired that way. Most of us don't let that color (pun not intended) our judgement.
One of my employees is black, he often talks about how weird white people are, and the funny way we speak. Isn't that raciest?

- a simpleton

 

[cytg111]

Oh I forgot. Pointing out unequal treatment of blacks by police is the real racism.

What the hell was I thinking?

I think they found a replacement for the n word they think they can use in public... dont matter if it makes sense or not... cause sense, who needs it, right? Then shrug it away with "those PC pussies lolz".
Filth. They are filth.

 

[woolfe9998]

I don't know if the police here made the right decisions, but I will say that if their decisions were wrong, at least in hindsight, the chance that these decisions were politically motivated is very low. I live here in the SF Bay Area, and I can tell you that the cops here lean politically rightward like they do in the rest of the country.

So far as trying to tag this on the mayor, he's exactly correct when he says he has no authority to direct police action. San Jose uses a council-manager system of governance. The mayor position is ceremonial. He has only the same authority as anyone else on the city council, and has no real executive powers.

 

[cytg111]

I happen to believe that everyone is a little bit raciest. Isn't skin color the very first thing we note about every single person we meet? Don't we all participate in at least one or two stereotypes? I think we're just wired that way. Most of us don't let that color (pun not intended) our judgement.
One of my employees is black, he often talks about how weird white people are, and the funny way we speak. Isn't that raciest?

I think there is truth to that, stereotyping has a pro survival application in our ape-DNA, So for someone never gone to school(HI BOOMER) or otherwise educated this is probably a common pitfall. Of course if you actually think about it, the difference between me and a black man is less than the difference between me and a white woman.. So what am I going to do with that information? If I press the issue upstairs in the small greys it becomes quite obvious that equallity for ALL is the only path forward, unless you wanna go Taliban. Anyone wants to go Taliban? No? Then it doesnt really matter if you are white black green or a little anti gravity hovering AI purple box, as long as we share the same capacity for reasoning, empathy and morals, it has to be equal for all.

 

[UglyCasanova]

You have some stones calling an African American, a racist

 

[UglyCasanova]

Love the lulz here - insinuating that one cannot be racist because of their own race. The ignorance is.... hilarious. One must have their head shoved pretty far up one's ass to perceive that in life.

There’s the train of thought on here that only whites can be racist because you have to have collective power to be so. Read here for some lulz:

https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...thnicity-to-possess-collective-power.2545415/

 

[Amused]

Love the lulz here - insinuating that one cannot be racist because of their own race. The ignorance is.... hilarious. One must have their head shoved pretty far up one's ass to perceive that in life.

The lulz are at those who try and defend their own racism by calling the victims of their racism "racist."

It's called "projection."

Shall we go through this again? Racism is not merely racial bias. It is racial bias BASED on the belief that one's own race is inherently superior.

It would be rather difficult for the classically oppressed race in society to believe their own race is superior.

What is even more insidious is the oppressive class calling the fight for equality "racism" in a propaganda campaign designed to continue the status quo of their own race's dominance.

Would you call the untouchables in India "classist" for resenting the ruling class?

Would you call a raped woman "sexist" for fearing and resenting men?

No.

And you would not call racial resentment among the oppressed races of a society "racism" either. No matter how much it helps you ease your own guilt of being a racist fucker.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Shall we go through this again? Racism is not merely racial bias. It is racial bias BASED on the belief that one's own race is inherently superior.

Googles definition:

rac·ism
ˈrāˌsizəm/
noun

prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
"a program to combat racism"
synonyms: racial discrimination, racialism, racial prejudice, xenophobia, chauvinism, bigotry, casteism
"Aborigines are the main victims of racism in Australia"

the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
noun: racism
"theories of racism"

 

[Amused]

Googles definition:

rac·ism
ˈrāˌsizəm/
noun

prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
"a program to combat racism"
synonyms: racial discrimination, racialism, racial prejudice, xenophobia, chauvinism, bigotry, casteism
"Aborigines are the main victims of racism in Australia"

the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
noun: racism
"theories of racism"

Thank you for making my point.

Blacks fighting for equality and resenting the oppressing race for centuries of oppression is NOT "racism."

I'm glad you finally understand that.