SAMSUNG - How big they have gotten

Page 2 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

Narmer

Diamond Member
Aug 27, 2006
5,292
0
0
Samsung is all about cheap asian labor costs. Keep in mind that they have some vision and that Korea is a great place to live and work. The USA and the UN gave them the freedom that they needed to thrive. As a Soldier I was always amazed that Korean people can make anything they put their minds to as long as someone is willing to pay for it. They are very good capitalists.

Lately I have been watching Korean Historical Movies. The videos are actually quite good. It is subtitled in English. They seem to have had a history with lots of devious people.

This series has over 70 1 hour episodes:

http://www.dramafever.com/drama/18/1/Yi_San/?ap=1

It is not bad for a story based on historical Events.

Can you blame them when they have two very powerful neighbors?
 

CptObvious

Platinum Member
Mar 5, 2004
2,501
7
81
I just returned from spending two years in Seoul. My observation is that Samsung and a few other Korean companies (Hyundai, LG, etc.) basically dominate the Korean economy, politics and media. For example, the iPhone 3GS finally made it to the Korean market earlier this year (and the iPhone 4 was released last week). But the majority of TV reports and newspaper articles I read were negative towards Apple, basically nitpicking everything wrong with the iPhone while hyping up the Samsung Android phones. Nonetheless the iPhone has still sold really well there.

On top of that, Korean companies charge Koreans more for their products than we Americans pay. Being back in the States, I think the biggest luxury is how cheap the goods are here compared to other countries.
 

LegendKiller

Lifer
Mar 5, 2001
18,256
68
86
Not everyone knows but more true words have never been typed on this forum (imo).

Heck with designing and making it ourselves...just offshore it to China (or lowest bidder) and loan people enough money (here) to buy it. Profit.

Bunch of doomsday trash, not indicative of reality.
 

Fritzo

Lifer
Jan 3, 2001
41,920
2,161
126
Its amazing on how popular and how big Samsung has gotten. IIRC, about 10 years ago, Samsung was hardly known in the US. Today, it is one of the most reputable electronics companies in the US.

Look at their portfolio and they are into everything:
Electronics Industries
Financial Services
Chemical Industries
Machinery & Heavy Industries
Engineering & Construction
Retail & Entertainment
Apparel & Advertisement
Education & Medical Services
Trading & Resource development
Food supplier & security services
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung

Just amazing when compared to US multinational companies.

Well, they also said about 10 years ago they were ready to take on SONY head to head. SONY laughed at them, because Samsung was along the lines of Coby and other no-name brands when it came to electronics.

Looks like they lived up to their word. SONY keeps making dumb and greedy decisions, and Samsung is now outselling them. Maybe SONY needs to force you to use more proprietary memory formats, or overprice their products by a few more hundred dollars to keep up.
 

Narmer

Diamond Member
Aug 27, 2006
5,292
0
0
If Samsung was a US company, the US government would break it into little companies.

A company like Samsung would never exist in America because we do not protect American companies at the expense of other American companies or even foreign competitors. In places like Japan, China, and Korea it is the polar opposite. The only East Asian economy that believes in a laissez-faire model is Taiwan and that is what makes their companies so nimble and the economy vibrant.
 

Yongsta

Senior member
Mar 6, 2005
675
0
76
Samsung revenue = 173.4 billion, South Korea GDP = $1.435 trillion (PPP), where did you get 20% of the GDP? Samsung does account for 20% of the exports however.

Another company in Korea that's in the mold of Samsung is LG, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG

Hyundai / KIA is doing really well as their profits and quality ratings keep improving.

The country went through tremendous leaps & changes over the past 30 years. When my parents came to this country nearly 30 years ago, their family members lived in houses with no electricity and the bathroom was an outhouse. Now they live in nice central air conditioned houses with modern decor, multiple LED flat screen TV's, super high speed internet and own a few cars. Over the same time in Korea the main workforce became very well educated with a lot of people graduating from college.
 

Fox5

Diamond Member
Jan 31, 2005
5,957
7
81
A company like Samsung would never exist in America because we do not protect American companies at the expense of other American companies or even foreign competitors. In places like Japan, China, and Korea it is the polar opposite. The only East Asian economy that believes in a laissez-faire model is Taiwan and that is what makes their companies so nimble and the economy vibrant.

Not sure about the current situation, but all the Asian tiger countries had a similar development with their corporations in the early years. (largely based on corruption and family ties, with loyalty trumping pure economics) In these countries, the companies are the government.
 

CptObvious

Platinum Member
Mar 5, 2004
2,501
7
81
I think this article sums up my feelings about Samsung's products: http://www.fast[REMOVE]company.com/1686739/the-samsung-mo-find-a-successful-product-copy-it-adequately

(link is being censored by the forum, remove [REMOVE])

They make good quality products at a good price point, but nothing groundbreaking. They wait until a more innovative American or Japanese company releases a successful product, then copy it, change a few features and then release it at a slightly lower price point. As big as Samsung has become, I think their strategy will only work so well until some Chinese conglomerates catch up.
 
Last edited:

Yongsta

Senior member
Mar 6, 2005
675
0
76
I think this article sums up my feelings about Samsung's products: http://www.****************/1686739/the-samsung-mo-find-a-successful-product-copy-it-adequately
They make good quality products at a good price point, but nothing groundbreaking. They wait until a more innovative American or Japanese company releases a successful product, then copy it, change a few features and then release it at a slightly lower price point. As big as Samsung has become, I think their strategy will only work so well until some Chinese conglomerates catch up.

Samsung was one of the first to heavily invest into LCD technology, SONY was late to the game and I believe they went to Samsung for LCD's. Samsung also heavily invested in LED & OLED technology. In terms of product design, Samsung needs to get more innovative. LG is a bit better in that department, LG came out with their Prada touch screen phone before even apple did with the iphone. LG also started the slider trend with their once popular chocolate phone. LG won many awards for their product designs.
 
Jul 10, 2007
12,041
3
0
But they're still making awesome products, right?

i can't think of anything innovative from samsung, really.
they make decent products, but none of them are really cutting edge technology.

like everything else korean (hyundai namely), they copy from the industry leaders, mass produce them, price (and build) it cheaper than the competition and sell as much as they can in the name of market share.
 

Narmer

Diamond Member
Aug 27, 2006
5,292
0
0
Samsung revenue = 173.4 billion, South Korea GDP = $1.435 trillion (PPP), where did you get 20% of the GDP? Samsung does account for 20% of the exports however.

Another company in Korea that's in the mold of Samsung is LG, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG

Hyundai / KIA is doing really well as their profits and quality ratings keep improving.

The country went through tremendous leaps & changes over the past 30 years. When my parents came to this country nearly 30 years ago, their family members lived in houses with no electricity and the bathroom was an outhouse. Now they live in nice central air conditioned houses with modern decor, multiple LED flat screen TV's, super high speed internet and own a few cars. Over the same time in Korea the main workforce became very well educated with a lot of people graduating from college.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung

It is South Korea's largest chaebol and the world's largest conglomerate by revenue[3][4] with an annual revenue of US $173.4 billion in 2008

http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds...m=country:KOR&dl=en&hl=en&q=south+korea's+gdp
 

Narmer

Diamond Member
Aug 27, 2006
5,292
0
0
Samsung was one of the first to heavily invest into LCD technology, SONY was late to the game and I believe they went to Samsung for LCD's. Samsung also heavily invested in LED & OLED technology. In terms of product design, Samsung needs to get more innovative. LG is a bit better in that department, LG came out with their Prada touch screen phone before even apple did with the iphone. LG also started the slider trend with their once popular chocolate phone. LG won many awards for their product designs.

LG Electronics head just stepped down because the company makes shitty products nobody wants to buy unless they have to. However, you are right about Samsung and LG investing in LCD technology.

http://www.dailytech.com/LG+CEO+Steps+Down+Amid+Woeful+Smartphone+Performance/article19654.htm
 
Jul 10, 2007
12,041
3
0
Samsung was one of the first to heavily invest into LCD technology, SONY was late to the game and I believe they went to Samsung for LCD's. Samsung also heavily invested in LED & OLED technology. In terms of product design, Samsung needs to get more innovative. LG is a bit better in that department, LG came out with their Prada touch screen phone before even apple did with the iphone. LG also started the slider trend with their once popular chocolate phone. LG won many awards for their product designs.

i think sony and sharp are teaming up to create LCD panels, not samsung.
 

Yongsta

Senior member
Mar 6, 2005
675
0
76
LG Electronics head just stepped down because the company makes shitty products nobody wants to buy unless they have to. However, you are right about Samsung and LG investing in LCD technology.

http://www.dailytech.com/LG+CEO+Steps+Down+Amid+Woeful+Smartphone+Performance/article19654.htm

It was a response about product innovation more so than a sales question. Having the first capacitive touch screen phone on the market (LG Prada (KE850). Starting certain design trends LG Chocolate (KV5900), etc.
 
Jul 10, 2007
12,041
3
0
I think this article sums up my feelings about Samsung's products: http://www.fast[REMOVE]company.com/1686739/the-samsung-mo-find-a-successful-product-copy-it-adequately

(link is being censored by the forum, remove [REMOVE])

They make good quality products at a good price point, but nothing groundbreaking. They wait until a more innovative American or Japanese company releases a successful product, then copy it, change a few features and then release it at a slightly lower price point. As big as Samsung has become, I think their strategy will only work so well until some Chinese conglomerates catch up.

wow, just finished the article and it put into words my exact thoughts on samsung (and korean companies in general).
 
Last edited:

Narmer

Diamond Member
Aug 27, 2006
5,292
0
0
It was a response about product innovation more so than a sales question. Having the first capacitive touch screen phone on the market (LG Prada (KE850). Starting certain design trends LG Chocolate (KV5900), etc.

None of that means anything in an industry that changes every 6 months. Unless LG starts to make interesting products they'll find themselves along with other bottomfeeders such as ZTE and Huwei from China.
 

Yongsta

Senior member
Mar 6, 2005
675
0
76
None of that means anything in an industry that changes every 6 months. Unless LG starts to make interesting products they'll find themselves along with other bottomfeeders such as ZTE and Huwei from China.

LG will probably make pretty competent android / windows mobile 7 devices in the near future, I haven't really used their mobile phone products (only tv, washing machine / dryer and refrigerator) but even so I believe they're #3 in world mobile phone sales behind only Nokia and Samsung.
 

JS80

Lifer
Oct 24, 2005
26,271
7
81
Yongsta's defend at all costs attitude and extreme pride is also a Korean trait, which certainly has it's advantages but as we all know can be a huge pitfall.
 

Yongsta

Senior member
Mar 6, 2005
675
0
76
Yongsta's defend at all costs attitude and extreme pride is also a Korean trait, which certainly has it's advantages but as we all know can be a huge pitfall.

It's not really a Korean trait, most of my Korean friends will say negative things about Korean products - especially Hyundai or Kia, but it's not as bad anymore.
 

Narmer

Diamond Member
Aug 27, 2006
5,292
0
0
LG will probably make pretty competent android / windows mobile 7 devices in the near future, I haven't really used their mobile phone products (only tv, washing machine / dryer and refrigerator) but even so I believe they're #3 in world mobile phone sales behind only Nokia and Samsung.

Not a very high vote of confidence there (understandable given their track record) but at least they have the Korean and African markets to exploit...
 
Last edited:
Jul 10, 2007
12,041
3
0
It's not really a Korean trait, most of my Korean friends will say negative things about Korean products - especially Hyundai or Kia, but it's not as bad anymore.

my experiences tell me otherwise. i've been around enough koreans to know how they think (about other races).
you guys have this superiority complex, esp towards other asians. in fact, koreans are probably the most racist bunch i've ever interacted with.

<-- token white guy amongst a bunch of koreans in HS