Discussion Samsung Exynos SoC thread

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hemedans

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All we know is that the yields are good enough for this particular case of Samsung fabbing their own SoC design. The cost per chip only has to be less than what they're paying per Qualcomm SoC for it to make sense - which I'd guess is around 25% or so.

The same math doesn't apply for third parties who have TSMC as an option. Let's see if Samsung lands any customers other than themselves before we pronounce the race back on lol
Didn't they sign $16.5B deal with Tesla recently? According to Ming Chi kuo upcoming Tesla A16 will be manufactured using SF2.
 

DZero

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It depends on the other source's willingness or ability to do anything cheaper than the monopoly.
If there is an actual monopoly they will attract state attention. Having a theoretical competitor can be better than a monopoly position for monopolists.
E.g. The mere existence of Radeon or Firefox doesn't really help consumers much. Nvidia does their price hikes regardless, Chrome pushes their user-hostile changes regardless.
But Samsung will probably actually try. They want diversified business. Overexposure to memory market is painful.
Still, Firefox has some share and Radeon has the consoles.
 

gdansk

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Still, Firefox has some share and Radeon has the consoles.
I use both. I'm not putting them down out of disdain. But the point was it doesn't matter, they can't gain enough traction to do anything useful for the market in general.

Samsung fabrication needs a working process, external customers, and enough volume to build out another fab in order to have real impact. They're still at stage 1, get it working. Maybe stage 2 if the Tesla order is more than hype and some products move on to this process.
 

DZero

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What both have in commom is vanishing market share.
Considering what Apple is about to pull this year with the Mac Books... heck, Safari might start to get more and more adepts. And if somehow an A19 Pro Mac Mini appears... heck, it will cause more troubles to Google.... and nVIDIA.
 

Panino Manino

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Considering what Apple is about to pull this year with the Mac Books... heck, Safari might start to get more and more adepts. And if somehow an A19 Pro Mac Mini appears... heck, it will cause more troubles to Google.... and nVIDIA.

Talking about browsers, while I still lament its base from the chorume... TRY VIVALDI. New version was released yesterday with big changes: https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-on-desktop-7-6/

CEO put his feet down to decree that they will NOT add "AI" to Vivaldi, contrary to Firefox that every month adds some and promises more.
No wonder is dying fast.
 

DZero

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Talking about browsers, while I still lament its base from the chorume... TRY VIVALDI. New version was released yesterday with big changes: https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-on-desktop-7-6/

CEO put his feet down to decree that they will NOT add "AI" to Vivaldi, contrary to Firefox that every month adds some and promises more.
No wonder is dying fast.
Chromium is a no go, is a RAM killer browser, I'll wait for another option now.