Safire is So Full of S*it . . .

[conjur]

You posed insulting rhetorical questions that were meant to accuse me of loving to see body counts rise. You are a despicable human being, CsG. Truly despicable.

A *real* man would apologize.

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Freedom and Liberty are ideals that a society needs to establish from within that society and culture.

It's not something that you bayonet down someones throat because you perceive that it's somethng that they need or want.

You think that Russia and China are going to let Bush dictate thier freedom ?
How about India - let's force Liberty on them too.

India already did... So did Russia, though they're currently leaning back the other direction.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Or those that don't want to hear anything positive about America and our ideals.

CsG

There he goes... you're either with us or against us :roll:

There you go ASSuming more than what was said again... :roll:
Try reading.

CsG

Clever.

But nice try squirming away.

"Those that don't want to hear anything positive about America" ... so take the opposite and that means "those" people you are referring to only want to hear negative things about America. That can only mean one thing: they don't like America. So in conclusion, you're limited to a black & white world where people are either "with us" or "against us".

Sure, you could twist it into that if you weren't paying attention. Try reading the exchange again and see if you can pick up the context instead of taking one thing and putting your own ASSumptions to it.

CsG

I'm sorry Cad, but there's no other meaning for what you said. It would have been alot more respectful to just admit the obvious. Instead you're trying to hide behind a blade of grass in an otherwise empty desert...

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: conjur
You posed insulting rhetorical questions that were meant to accuse me of loving to see body counts rise. You are a despicable human being, CsG. Truly despicable.

A *real* man would apologize.

A *real* man would answer the questions.

CsG

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Or those that don't want to hear anything positive about America and our ideals.

CsG

There he goes... you're either with us or against us :roll:

There you go ASSuming more than what was said again... :roll:
Try reading.

CsG

Clever.

But nice try squirming away.

"Those that don't want to hear anything positive about America" ... so take the opposite and that means "those" people you are referring to only want to hear negative things about America. That can only mean one thing: they don't like America. So in conclusion, you're limited to a black & white world where people are either "with us" or "against us".

Sure, you could twist it into that if you weren't paying attention. Try reading the exchange again and see if you can pick up the context instead of taking one thing and putting your own ASSumptions to it.

CsG

I'm sorry Cad, but there's no other meaning for what you said. It would have been alot more respectful to just admit the obvious. Instead you're trying to hide behind a blade of grass in an otherwise empty desert...

I said:

it went in one ear and out the other for many folks...

then Red said:

Especially those who can tell bullsh!t when they hear it

Then I replied with

Or those that don't want to hear anything positive about America and our ideals.

That put together means that it went in one ear and out the other of the people because:
A) what Red Dawn said
b) what I said.

Now remember - this was said in the context of things going in one ear and out the other.

So yes, you didn't read or understand the exchange and just ASSumed so you could trot out that BS little rant. It's ok, you can admit you misread it or just didn't understand the context - it's not the end of the world.

CsG

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur
You posed insulting rhetorical questions that were meant to accuse me of loving to see body counts rise. You are a despicable human being, CsG. Truly despicable.

A *real* man would apologize.

A *real* man would answer the questions.

CsG

Good luck on getting answers from him with any sort of honesty, CsG. It's just not his forte.

Ideology trumps facts and reality in the new liberal world.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur
You posed insulting rhetorical questions that were meant to accuse me of loving to see body counts rise. You are a despicable human being, CsG. Truly despicable.

A *real* man would apologize.

A *real* man would answer the questions.

CsG

Answer rhetorical questions that you *know* the answers to already? You're a real piece of sh*t.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur
You posed insulting rhetorical questions that were meant to accuse me of loving to see body counts rise. You are a despicable human being, CsG. Truly despicable.

A *real* man would apologize.

A *real* man would answer the questions.

CsG

Good luck on getting answers from him with any sort of honesty, CsG. It's just not his forte.

Ideology trumps facts and reality in the new liberal world.

Oh, look who's jumping on the bandwagon. CsG's little toadie.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur
You posed insulting rhetorical questions that were meant to accuse me of loving to see body counts rise. You are a despicable human being, CsG. Truly despicable.

A *real* man would apologize.

A *real* man would answer the questions.

CsG

Good luck on getting answers from him with any sort of honesty, CsG. It's just not his forte.

Ideology trumps facts and reality in the new liberal world.

Oh, look who's jumping on the bandwagon. CsG's little toadie.

Says the snake and grand pubah of all the new liberal toadies at ATP&N.

Watch out little toadies. Snakes will eat you on a whim.

 

[conjur]

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Who said anything about impressing? I don't expect you bush-haters to be impressed but it's surprising to see you not embrace the ideals of freedom and liberty for all man-kind.

CsG

Freedom and liberty being delivered via Tomahawk and infantry is not the way to do it.

Again, WAR isn't the only way to spread freedom and Liberty. War is one of MANY tools that can remove the forces that wish prevent freedom though.

CsG

So since the United States has been at the forefront of the anti-freedom (for everyone else but us) crowd, who gets to remove us?

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Freedom and Liberty are ideals that a society needs to establish from within that society and culture.

It's not something that you bayonet down someones throat because you perceive that it's somethng that they need or want.

You think that Russia and China are going to let Bush dictate thier freedom ?
How about India - let's force Liberty on them too.

India already did... So did Russia, though they're currently leaning back the other direction.

Russia is doing a little more than just leaning

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Who said anything about impressing? I don't expect you bush-haters to be impressed but it's surprising to see you not embrace the ideals of freedom and liberty for all man-kind.

CsG

Freedom and liberty being delivered via Tomahawk and infantry is not the way to do it.

Again, WAR isn't the only way to spread freedom and Liberty. War is one of MANY tools that can remove the forces that wish prevent freedom though.

CsG

AGAIN, I never said war was the only way. But, it's the ONLY way this administration enacts its foreign policy. That cannot be denied.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur
You posed insulting rhetorical questions that were meant to accuse me of loving to see body counts rise. You are a despicable human being, CsG. Truly despicable.

A *real* man would apologize.

A *real* man would answer the questions.

CsG

Good luck on getting answers from him with any sort of honesty, CsG. It's just not his forte.

Ideology trumps facts and reality in the new liberal world.

New liberal world? What planet are you living on?

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

I said:

it went in one ear and out the other for many folks...

then Red said:

Especially those who can tell bullsh!t when they hear it

Then I replied with

Or those that don't want to hear anything positive about America and our ideals.

That put together means that it went in one ear and out the other of the people because:
A) what Red Dawn said
b) what I said.

Now remember - this was said in the context of things going in one ear and out the other.

So yes, you didn't read or understand the exchange and just ASSumed so you could trot out that BS little rant. It's ok, you can admit you misread it or just didn't understand the context - it's not the end of the world.

CsG

Uhh, no Cad, now you're really making yourself look silly....

Yes, you originally said "it went in one ear and out the other for many folks...", then you elaborated by saying "Or those that don't want to hear anything positive about America and our ideals.". So you said it yourself Cad! The conclusion you kindly stated for us on this here fourm is that those who did not like the speech only want to hear negative things about America. That means they're either "with us" or "against us". There's no escaping that. Maybe after I called you on it, you realized you exposed too much partisanship so are trying to take back the very words you wrote. Sorry, the dialogue is on record, there's no going back.

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: lozina
Uhh, no Cad, now you're really making yourself look silly....

Yes, you originally said "it went in one ear and out the other for many folks...", then you elaborated by saying "Or those that don't want to hear anything positive about America and our ideals.". So you said it yourself Cad! The conclusion you kindly stated for us on this here fourm is that those who did not like the speech only want to hear negative things about America. That means they're either "with us" or "against us". There's no escaping that. Maybe after I called you on it, you realized you exposed too much partisanship so are trying to take back the very words you wrote. Sorry, the dialogue is on record, there's no going back.

That's quite a non sequitur you have there, sir.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: lozina
Uhh, no Cad, now you're really making yourself look silly....

Yes, you originally said "it went in one ear and out the other for many folks...", then you elaborated by saying "Or those that don't want to hear anything positive about America and our ideals.". So you said it yourself Cad! The conclusion you kindly stated for us on this here fourm is that those who did not like the speech only want to hear negative things about America. That means they're either "with us" or "against us". There's no escaping that. Maybe after I called you on it, you realized you exposed too much partisanship so are trying to take back the very words you wrote. Sorry, the dialogue is on record, there's no going back.

That's quite a non sequitur you have there, sir.

Would you be so kind as to elaborate for me?

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur
You posed insulting rhetorical questions that were meant to accuse me of loving to see body counts rise. You are a despicable human being, CsG. Truly despicable.

A *real* man would apologize.

A *real* man would answer the questions.

CsG

Good luck on getting answers from him with any sort of honesty, CsG. It's just not his forte.

Ideology trumps facts and reality in the new liberal world.

New liberal world? What planet are you living on?

We all live on the same planet. New liberals live in a different world, one where reality doesn't apply, though.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur
You posed insulting rhetorical questions that were meant to accuse me of loving to see body counts rise. You are a despicable human being, CsG. Truly despicable.

A *real* man would apologize.

A *real* man would answer the questions.

CsG

Good luck on getting answers from him with any sort of honesty, CsG. It's just not his forte.

Ideology trumps facts and reality in the new liberal world.

New liberal world? What planet are you living on?

We all live on the same planet. New liberals live in a different world, one where reality doesn't apply, though.

Your thought patterns are a prime example of the results of the PIPA study.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: conjur
You posed insulting rhetorical questions that were meant to accuse me of loving to see body counts rise. You are a despicable human being, CsG. Truly despicable.

A *real* man would apologize.

A *real* man would answer the questions.

CsG

Good luck on getting answers from him with any sort of honesty, CsG. It's just not his forte.

Ideology trumps facts and reality in the new liberal world.

New liberal world? What planet are you living on?

We all live on the same planet. New liberals live in a different world, one where reality doesn't apply, though.

Your thought patterns are a prime example of the results of the PIPA study.

I'm sure you have absolutely no clue what my though patterns are. But such a comment is typical of those who live in that new liberal fantasy world; one where they believe they know what everyone thinks and believes and if they don't, they'll be glad just to make sh*t up.

 

[conjur]

Hmm...anti-Bush = liberal.

Now *that's* some imaginative "thinking".

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: conjur
Hmm...anti-Bush = liberal.

Now *that's* some imaginative "thinking".

B...b...but you and your toadies demostrate constantly that that's how it works in here. If one makes any claim that plainly shows the rhetoric and lies of an RBHr, they're designated a Bush apologist or Bush-God Fanboi. Now all of the sudden someone's being "imaginative"? LOL.

Will you be requiring any more demonstrations of your hypocrisy today, conjur?

 

[conjur]

Apologizing for yourself now? Wow. You *are* desperate.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken

Originally posted by: conjur
Hmm...anti-Bush = liberal.

Now *that's* some imaginative "thinking".

B...b...but you and your toadies demostrate constantly that that's how it works in here. If one makes any claim that plainly shows the rhetoric and lies of an RBHr, they're designated a Bush apologist or Bush-God Fanboi. Now all of the sudden someone's being "imaginative"? LOL.

Will you be requiring any more demonstrations of your hypocrisy today, conjur?

Jesus, get a room your two!

 

[conjur]

Jealous, Red? :lips: