Sackler family about to get immunity

[MrSquished]

This whole thing stinks.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

The Sacklers should honestly be executed, Funkytown style. Worst mass murderers in US history and they get to walk away with billions for their crimes.

 

[ElFenix]

the only difference between the sacklers and el chapo is that el chapo never lied about the addictiveness of the drugs he peddled.

 

[blankslate]

"Justice" for the wealthy is different than for the not so wealthy.

 

[Heartbreaker]

"Justice" for the wealthy is different than for the not so wealthy.

The legal system is different for the wealthy.

Justice would be the same. But we can't get Justice in the current legal system.

 

[kage69]

I'm still livid about the news. I know of so many families in Maine who lost at least one parent, several losing both. In pretty much all cases it started with medication for injuries on the job, mostly logging.

These fucking evil sociopaths knew what they were doing. They had a campaign to buy off doctors and turn them into basically, dealers. When told an enteric coating could be applied to the pills for next to nothing and would prevent people from crushing them to inhale, removing a big vector for addiction, they said Nahh, we're not doing that, don't want to affect these sales numbers. Just one example of many. The apathy for people dying from that family is just mind boggling.

Every Sackler involved with facilitating such widespread death should lose every penny they made from it. Prison and decades long volunteer work should be on the table, dished out according to depth of involvement. That they are getting immunity is a Trump level stain on this country, and the rule of law.

 

[Fenixgoon]

federal judge has overturned the settlement

Federal judge rejects Purdue Pharma's settlement of opioid lawsuits over legal protections for members of Sackler family | CNN

A federal judge has overturned the opioid settlement of more than $4 billion that gave the Sackler family broad protection against civil litigation and resolved all outstanding civil suits against OxyContin maker Purdue Pharma.

www.cnn.com

 

[shortylickens]

federal judge has overturned the settlement

Federal judge rejects Purdue Pharma's settlement of opioid lawsuits over legal protections for members of Sackler family | CNN

A federal judge has overturned the opioid settlement of more than $4 billion that gave the Sackler family broad protection against civil litigation and resolved all outstanding civil suits against OxyContin maker Purdue Pharma.

www.cnn.com

holy fucking shit!

you mean to tell me billionaires do NOT control the American justice system?
No, I refuse to believe it.
Something else happened here. Did they piss off another billionaire?

 

[BoomerD]

holy fucking shit!

you mean to tell me billionaires do NOT control the American justice system?
No, I refuse to believe it.
Something else happened here. Did they piss off another billionaire?

Nah, they're going to get a better deal. It just hasn't been announced yet.

 

[shortylickens]

Nah, they're going to get a better deal. It just hasn't been announced yet.

DAMN THEM!!!

 

[KMFJD]

holy fucking shit!

you mean to tell me billionaires do NOT control the American justice system?
No, I refuse to believe it.
Something else happened here. Did they piss off another billionaire?

It allowed the Sacklers time to hide their $$ , death by a thousand paper cuts (or lawsuits) is coming though

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Of course they're appealing. (Well, they're not to me, but you get the drift.)

 

[Bitek]

Huge news.

Maybe a glimmer or justice system isn't completely corrupt and billionaires can face some (but not much) level of accountability.

 

[DaaQ]

What good is having billions of $$$ if you can't buy yourself some favorable legal decisions?

And yet here I am, unable to get guardianship/custody of my granddaughters for some strange reason.

The stimulus money that is supposed to be going towards the girls, goes into their dad's account, who claims he needs it because he's living in a car.
What does he do with the money from this month?? Goes and buys a Nintendo Switch.. GD POS.

 

[ElFenix]

holy fucking shit!

you mean to tell me billionaires do NOT control the American justice system?
No, I refuse to believe it.
Something else happened here. Did they piss off another billionaire?

bankruptcy court jurisdiction is a pretty complex matter (or a fucking mess, more accurately) and the district court, under which the bankruptcy court sits, determined this was outside the bankruptcy court's authority.

And yet here I am, unable to get guardianship/custody of my granddaughters for some strange reason.

The stimulus money that is supposed to be going towards the girls, goes into their dad's account, who claims he needs it because he's living in a car.
What does he do with the money from this month?? Goes and buys a Nintendo Switch.. GD POS.

where's the rage posrep when you need it?

 

[dawp]

bankruptcy court jurisdiction is a pretty complex matter (or a fucking mess, more accurately) and the district court, under which the bankruptcy court sits, determined this was outside the bankruptcy court's authority.



where's the rage posrep when you need it?

yup, due to a technicality

The Bankruptcy Court lacked the statutory authority to give the Sackler family those protections and they are not permitted under the bankruptcy code, Judge Colleen McMahon of the Southern District of New York ruled Thursday.

 

[trenchfoot]

How is it that a company can admit to crimes being committed but no individual faces charges? Did the company become sentient and self-aware?

According to our corrupted courts, corporations are people if it's to their advantage and not people when it's to their advantage.

 

[kage69]

Best news I've heard in awhile, had a loud huzzah! in the car when I caught it on the radio this morning.

I know this means it will take more time to bring these fuckers to account, but people with billions of dollars using bankruptcy law to dodge accountability for such widespread death and suffering is Trump grade bullshit. Bravo judge.

 

[ElFenix]

yup, due to a technicality

jurisdiction isn't really a technicality.

 

[dawp]

jurisdiction isn't really a technicality.

I suppose you're right.

 

[Moonbeam]

Absolute fucking bullshit.

I hate that family with every fiber of my being.

I can understand that. But what if they can't help being the way they are. Wouldn't it require a belief, not only that they are guilty sinning as a matter of choice, but also that you have a right or a capacity to judge that? I know it is easier to see thing simply as moral quandary leads anxiety and doubt and evokes unwelcome personal conscience, no?

 

[kage69]

I can understand that. But what if they can't help being the way they are.

I give up, what?

Can you understand the disease of alcoholism excusing vehicular homicide? I can't.

 

[Moonbeam]

I give up, what?

Can you understand the disease of alcoholism excusing vehicular homicide? I can't.

Yes, I can, ideally. But what is it that we are excusing. Just because a person has a mental illness does not excuse society from a obligation to prevent a seriously sick and irresponsible person from acting out that sickness once the seriousness of the consequences prove dangerous to other people. At worst we are obliged to isolate people like that from free social interaction. The may require institutionalization or jail. The only difference between blame and responsible action to prevent the evil of insane actions is that the latter requires no hatred or blame. The aim shouldn't be punishment but an effort to restore and heal people like that.

 

[Heartbreaker]

I can understand that. But what if they can't help being the way they are.

Being psychopaths, doesn't excuse them from the consequences of their actions.

 

[kage69]

Yes, I can, ideally. But what is it that we are excusing. Just because a person has a mental illness does not excuse society from a obligation to prevent a seriously sick and irresponsible person from acting out that sickness once the seriousness of the consequences prove dangerous to other people. At worst we are obliged to isolate people like that from free social interaction. The may require institutionalization or jail. The only difference between blame and responsible action to prevent the evil of insane actions is that the latter requires no hatred or blame. The aim shouldn't be punishment but an effort to restore and heal people like that.

The taking of life apparently, unless you're disputing the results of what Purdue Pharma helped create.

Is greed a mental illness? I think it is when it generates this much suffering and death, and I'm far more interested in the effort to restore and heal the people and families who were the actual victims here. It's not a proposition of mutual exclusions moon, they can be punished and made to assist in the restoring of the people they knew they were harming and killing. I'm not sure I care what you think other's aims should be, it's irrelevant - this is a matter of a family with blood on it's hands using obscene wealth to buy immunity from justice, and leveraging the plight of families they helped destroy as a tool to achieve that.

My hatred and blame for the deaths of over half a million Americans is perfectly valid, and while I did wear black yesterday it wasn't a judge's robes so do feel free to cross that worry off your list. No, deterrence is the aim, so that ideally there is no need to restore and heal people to begin with. Sometimes that takes punishment, and I'm ok with that.