Russian oligarch sent $500,000 to Michael Cohen

[mikeymikec]

Sounds like the Clinton Foundation only on a much much smaller scale.

IJTSSG: I fell down some stairs

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

After the dust settled overnight I think Avenatti needs to dial back the aggression for the sake of his client. Reports state that Mikey was so gung-ho he didn't properly review his sources and just threw everything the could find at Michael Cohen, including things he wasn't responsible. This can change Avenatti from being seen as a sharp attorney to a vindictive SOB by such actions. Any defense is going to seize on this and a pattern of this type of action will likely play well for Cohen.

 

[IJTSSG]

The Clinton foundation was reviewed by charity watch, here's what they found,
"In September 2016, it gave it its highest possible rating, four out of four stars, after its customary review of the Foundation's financial records and tax statements"
Meanwhile your D-bag orangutan hero has yet to even release his tax returns, the 1st such president to not do so in our entire history. Face it, your support is based on hate/racism/fear, maybe it's time you grow a pair and realize just how badly you goofed vs continuing to back an epic loser.

You should check judicial watch as well.
I hate to break your bubble but I didn't vote for Trump and my support varies by issue. I know that flies in the face of the " If you ain't against him, you for him" mantra that you and the rest of the deep thinkers around here succumb to but, not surprisingly, you're wrong again.

does your chicken ever get tired?

Could you have someone translate that from stupid fucktard into english? Thanks

The reason is pretty simple I think,

You are succumbing to tribalism right now.

This is really, really bad and it has nothing to do with the Clintons. You need to start accepting this is corruption on a scale we have never seen.

You are succumbing to the belief you know everything. This has to do with hypocrisy and hyper partisans who can't stand it when someone isn't goose stepping right along side of them.

Pro Tip: find and start using the word alleged. It will indicate a less partisan, more intelligent being. As smart as you obviously are, you shouldn't have to be told that.

Trump had a charitable foundation-

http://www.politifact.com/florida/a...nald-trump-pam-bondi-and-25k-was-it-pay-play/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_J._Trump_Foundation

Not stinky. Nuh-uhh!

Cooll story bro. I thought we we're talking about pay for play? Whataboutism?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Cooll story bro. I thought we we're talking about pay for play?

Thing is that one can accuse Hillary but "We paid for access to the President" carries far more weight than "I think she did it".

Mueller will follow up on this admission by Novartis and likely has been for months.

 

[Thebobo]

Watched Rachel last night explain it all, she did a great job with the different excuses the company's put out as the day progressed, priceless. If you didn't see it you should. It's the first part of the show.

Just audio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvHQFRdBCl0

Full video here http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/watch/rachel-maddow-5-9-18-episode

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Looks like Columbus Nova is almost done scrubbing their website that touted how closely tied they were to Vekselberg's company. Sure they should have done that BEFORE saying they had nothing to do with them but what can you do right?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/09/poli...m-scrubs-website-russian-oligarch1002PMVODtop

 

[outriding]

You should check judicial watch as well.
I hate to break your bubble but I didn't vote for Trump and my support varies by issue. I know that flies in the face of the " If you ain't against him, you for him" mantra that you and the rest of the deep thinkers around here succumb to but, not surprisingly, you're wrong again.



Could you have someone translate that from stupid fucktard into english? Thanks



You are succumbing to the belief you know everything. This has to do with hypocrisy and hyper partisans who can't stand it when someone isn't goose stepping right along side of them.

Pro Tip: find and start using the word alleged. It will indicate a less partisan, more intelligent being. As smart as you obviously are, you shouldn't have to be told that.



Cooll story bro. I thought we we're talking about pay for play? Whataboutism?

Really. You are going to quote a conservative activist group as a solid source? Judicial watch

Hell when you google them one of the top links is clinton corruption. Yup they are going to give a neutral stance

 

[Jhhnn]

Cooll story bro. I thought we we're talking about pay for play? Whataboutism?

But Hillary! kinda backfired, didn't it?

 

[fskimospy]

You should check judicial watch as well.
I hate to break your bubble but I didn't vote for Trump and my support varies by issue. I know that flies in the face of the " If you ain't against him, you for him" mantra that you and the rest of the deep thinkers around here succumb to but, not surprisingly, you're wrong again.

You shouldn’t check judicial watch. It’s an extreme right wing advocacy group so you’re never going to get accurate information from them. Or I guess more precisely whatever accurate information you do get will be mixed in with so many lies it will be impossible to tell which is which.

Whatever your political leanings are there should be some things everyone agrees on and that is public corruption. Imagine how you would feel if it turned out that Obama’s personal lawyer was secretly pocketing millions from Russian oligarchs, drug companies, and foreign defense contractors. You would be (quite correctly) outraged. Hell, the Republicans probably would have impeached him over it. Liberals are already against Trump. What we really need is for conservatives to work with us to get this corrupt sack of shit out of office before he makes things worse.

You are succumbing to the belief you know everything. This has to do with hypocrisy and hyper partisans who can't stand it when someone isn't goose stepping right along side of them.

I most certainly don’t know everything, but I do know the Clintons have nothing to do with this.

Pro Tip: find and start using the word alleged. It will indicate a less partisan, more intelligent being. As smart as you obviously are, you shouldn't have to be told that.

The counterparties involved already admitted to the payments. There is nothing alleged about them. Well, that is except for the Russian subsidiary who just panicked and scrubbed their website of any Russian associations. Lol.

 

[Thebobo]

It's scary where folks get their news from but nothing new really here. Not as bad as the other one that was listed where it was full on extreme but this site is pretty close.

Judicial Watch
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/judicial-watch/

RIGHT BIAS
These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy. See all Right Bias sources.

Factual Reporting: MIXED
Notes: Judicial Watch is a conservative educational foundation that promotes transparency, accountability and integrity in government, politics and the law. Unfortunately, Judicial Watch is not always accountable and publishes false information according to Politifact and Snopes. (7/19/2016) Updated (2/25/2017)

 

[Greenman]

You shouldn’t check judicial watch. It’s an extreme right wing advocacy group so you’re never going to get accurate information from them. Or I guess more precisely whatever accurate information you do get will be mixed in with so many lies it will be impossible to tell which is which.

Whatever your political leanings are there should be some things everyone agrees on and that is public corruption. Imagine how you would feel if it turned out that Obama’s personal lawyer was secretly pocketing millions from Russian oligarchs, drug companies, and foreign defense contractors. You would be (quite correctly) outraged. Hell, the Republicans probably would have impeached him over it. Liberals are already against Trump. What we really need is for conservatives to work with us to get this corrupt sack of shit out of office before he makes things worse.



I most certainly don’t know everything, but I do know the Clintons have nothing to do with this.



The counterparties involved already admitted to the payments. There is nothing alleged about them. Well, that is except for the Russian subsidiary who just panicked and scrubbed their website of any Russian associations. Lol.

I completely disagree with the part highlighted. That's guilt by association. I used to know a fellow who murdered 3 people, does that mean I'm culpable for his crimes? Should I be in prison for associating with a convicted murderer? That doesn't fly. The entire affair looks dirty as hell, but so far I haven't seen a solid connection to Trump. Follow the money, where was Trumps check deposited?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Well shit, Pence looks guilty as hell too.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/10/mike-pence-michael-cohen-businesses-579904

 

[fskimospy]

I completely disagree with the part highlighted. That's guilt by association. I used to know a fellow who murdered 3 people, does that mean I'm culpable for his crimes? Should I be in prison for associating with a convicted murderer? That doesn't fly. The entire affair looks dirty as hell, but so far I haven't seen a solid connection to Trump. Follow the money, where was Trumps check deposited?

You haven't seen a solid connection to Trump other than the hush money to his mistress was paid out of the same LLC and Cohen is Trump's personal lawyer/fixer who has no other clients except for Trump and that Cohen was being paid that money specifically to influence Trump administration policy you mean?

Congress should be holding hearings and investigations on this TODAY. My prediction? They will do nothing.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Well shit, Pence looks guilty as hell too.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/10/mike-pence-michael-cohen-businesses-579904

Dems get house, promote Hillary to Speaker, impeachment, hilarity ensues?

 

[fskimospy]

It's scary where folks get their news from but nothing new really here. Not as bad as the other one that was listed where it was full on extreme but this site is pretty close.

Judicial Watch
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/judicial-watch/

RIGHT BIAS
These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes. Some sources in this category may be untrustworthy. See all Right Bias sources.

Factual Reporting: MIXED
Notes: Judicial Watch is a conservative educational foundation that promotes transparency, accountability and integrity in government, politics and the law. Unfortunately, Judicial Watch is not always accountable and publishes false information according to Politifact and Snopes. (7/19/2016) Updated (2/25/2017)

Yes, here's the wiki entry on Judicial Watch, lol. It's an organization created for the purpose of suing the Clinton Administration that has since descended into climate denialism and other right wing kookery. (it's founder is a birther) It's a comically non-credible source.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_Watch

Founded in 1994, JW has primarily targeted Democrats, in particular the Clinton administration, the Obama administration, and Hillary Clinton, although it has sued Republicans as well including the administration of George W. Bush. It has also filed lawsuits against government climate scientists; Judicial Watch has described climate science as "fraud science". The group has made numerous false and unsubstantiated claims, which have been picked up by right-wing news outlets. Most of its lawsuits have been dismissed.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

You haven't seen a solid connection to Trump other than the hush money to his mistress was paid out of the same LLC and Cohen is Trump's personal lawyer/fixer who has no other clients except for Trump and that Cohen was being paid that money specifically to influence Trump administration policy you mean?

Congress should be holding hearings and investigations on this TODAY. My prediction? They will do nothing.

I don't know about that. Nunes certainly seems motivated.

 

[vi edit]

Dems get house, promote Hillary to Speaker, impeachment, hilarity ensues?

I'm not sure who's more hated, Hillary or Pelosi. Either one being president would make heads explode.

 

[mikeymikec]

Well shit, Pence looks guilty as hell too.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/10/mike-pence-michael-cohen-businesses-579904

IMO it looks more like he's starting to distance himself from the shitstorm. He's kept pretty quiet on the alleged corruption situation, hasn't he?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I'm not sure who's more hated, Hillary or Pelosi. Either one being president would make heads explode.

Neither one is going to make President, but a curious thing is that anyone can be Speaker. You don't even have to hold office.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

IMO it looks more like he's starting to distance himself from the shitstorm. He's kept pretty quiet on the alleged corruption situation, hasn't he?

Yeah, today we get

"I don't know anything about it" AKA "I am not a crook"

"Cohen's business affairs are a private matter" although payments were for a quid pro quo, AKA "Shit shit shit, I'm really not a crook"

Last and not least "Muller needs to shut this investigation down" AKA "What nations don't have extradition treaties with the US?".

 

[fskimospy]

I don't know about that. Nunes certainly seems motivated.

Haha, that's true. Nunes will probably immediately open up an investigation into how people got that information on Cohen.

 

[Jhhnn]

IMO it looks more like he's starting to distance himself from the shitstorm. He's kept pretty quiet on the alleged corruption situation, hasn't he?

I figure Pence spends most of his time honing his dagger to a razor's edge & dreaming of the day he gets to use it....

 

[hal2kilo]

After the dust settled overnight I think Avenatti needs to dial back the aggression for the sake of his client. Reports state that Mikey was so gung-ho he didn't properly review his sources and just threw everything the could find at Michael Cohen, including things he wasn't responsible. This can change Avenatti from being seen as a sharp attorney to a vindictive SOB by such actions. Any defense is going to seize on this and a pattern of this type of action will likely play well for Cohen.

Yea, he sucks. He was only like 99.4% correct.

 

[mikeymikec]

Yeah, today we get

"I don't know anything about it" AKA "I am not a crook"

"Cohen's business affairs are a private matter" although payments were for a quid pro quo, AKA "Shit shit shit, I'm really not a crook"

Last and not least "Muller needs to shut this investigation down" AKA "What nations don't have extradition treaties with the US?".

But if one views what he said as the Republicans' position on the matter (hypothetically a party of politicians who benefit from Trump's presidency but aren't directly involved in the scams and back-room deals), then if his presidency goes up shit creek, they're in a reasonably good position in terms of politicial arse-covering because they initiated, endorsed and oversaw the investigations, they jettison Nunes and whoever's with him for polluting the narrative, obviously the administration has to go, and as far as their faithful followers are concerned, they've been part of seeing justice served. If Pence is considered by the investigation to be clean and other key figures like Ryan, McConnell etc as well, then I think the Republicans can pull this off.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Haha, that's true. Nunes will probably immediately open up an investigation into how people got that information on Cohen.

Sometimes I play the "Who is the equivalent in history" game. I really don't have a good answer for Trump. He's worse than Nixon but not allowed to be a dictator. Pence? A malign Gerry Ford perhaps.

But I think I have Nunes pegged- Vidkun Quisling