Russian oligarch sent $500,000 to Michael Cohen

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hal2kilo

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True, but it will put further heat on Dump because it will only add to the possible charges Cohen might face.
What's actually more fascinating is the other clients payments. What's AT&T, Norvartis, and some other outfit getting for their payments to Cohen. Sure is looking like a Pay to Play setup.
 
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Fox News blacks out bombshell Michael Cohen revelations during 3 hours of primetime coverage

I guess they didn't have time to get their lies in sync for Trump

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment...306ae9a/ss_fox-news-blacks-out-bombshell.html
Hey. Those stories on therapy goats were far more important.

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They literally spent more time on this than Cohen.
 

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Hooo boy. Cohen alone is not going to be able to take the fall for this. Is Trump going to be impeached or is Kushner going to fall on his sword and confess to being the Russian conduit to the Whitehouse this entire time and using Cohen unbeknownst to Trump?
 

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Hooo boy. Cohen alone is not going to be able to take the fall for this. Is Trump going to be impeached or is Kushner going to fall on his sword and confess to being the Russian conduit to the Whitehouse this entire time and using Cohen unbeknownst to Trump?

The enormity of Trump and his associate's probable criminal wrongdoing may result in penalties far beyond impeachment. The protection that exists for Trump likely ends with the midterms as do the careers of many a Republican in Congress.

Once that happens Trump has no appeal to immunity for criminal actions. He's done and if the VP decided to do another Ford and pardon or if the Dems sit on their ass like they did after the Iraq War then I hope our Glorious State Prosecutors see fit to investigate and prosecute.
 

zinfamous

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yeah, so, this looks really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really bad
 
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Haha now there are questions how ATT even found Cohens company since it has no website, no social media and did no advertising
 
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zinfamous

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That was covered too, what type of vetting does ATT do? Do they commonly do business with companies that have no advertising, no website, no employees, no business credit.

Being that ATT hasn't been around all that long, are a small, private, family-run business, they just aren't that experienced in this businessing thing.

Sure, these may seem like obvious mistakes to the pros, but I'm sure plenty of small startups like ATT do this regularly.
 

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yeah, so, this looks really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really bad
I think you missed a really.
 

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Haha now there are questions how ATT even found Cohens company since it has no website, no social media and did no advertising


That is curious, no?

I now have a basis for a theory I've been entertaining. Republicans who mostly did not support Trump are willing to commit collective partisan suicide in November. That's astounding. It would be far better to go with Pense and throw Trump under the bus, supporters notwithstanding.

So why not? Perhaps because they aren't protecting Trump, but the corporate entities which benefit all of them, Trump and the Republican party as a whole.

IF that is the case this might lead beyond Trump and to the party as a whole with potential criminal consequences.
 
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Being that ATT hasn't been around all that long, are a small, private, family-run business, they just aren't that experienced in this businessing thing.

Sure, these may seem like obvious mistakes to the pros, but I'm sure plenty of small startups like ATT do this regularly.

They touched upon bribery charges vs businesses have been made harder but Exective jail time can happen...
 

zinfamous

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That is curious, no?

I now have a basis for a theory I've been entertaining. Republicans who mostly did not support Trump are willing to commit collective partisan suicide in November. That's astounding. It would be far better to go with Pense and throw Trump under the bus, supporters notwithstanding.

So why not? Perhaps because they aren't protecting Trump, but the corporate entities which benefit all of them, Trump and the Republican party as a whole.

IF that is the case this might lead beyond Trump and to the party as a whole with potential criminal consequences.

Well there is that thing about Cohen being appointed to a seat on the board of the RNC finance committee.

LoL.
 

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So now the Novartis bribery is up to 1.2 million, AT&T is closer to $600,000 and the Korean aerospace company that bribed is close to getting a 16 billion contract from the Air Force.
 

zinfamous

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So only Congress can approve much of this, especially the Air Force contract to Korean air company, right? I wonder how much of that cheddar made its way to the various GOP critters via Cohen's RNC slush fund?
 
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That is curious, no?

I now have a basis for a theory I've been entertaining. Republicans who mostly did not support Trump are willing to commit collective partisan suicide in November. That's astounding. It would be far better to go with Pense and throw Trump under the bus, supporters notwithstanding.

So why not? Perhaps because they aren't protecting Trump, but the corporate entities which benefit all of them, Trump and the Republican party as a whole.

IF that is the case this might lead beyond Trump and to the party as a whole with potential criminal consequences.

Maybe but there is a simpler answer. The way they would remove Trump is through impeachment. Assuming they would be confident in having enough votes for removal, going through with the process ties up Congress for a long time. That would prevent them from at least trying to capitalize on their majority in both houses + presidency. Beyond that, they'd do so by bringing charges against him. Why would they act until Mueller has concluded his investigation?
 

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Maybe but there is a simpler answer. The way they would remove Trump is through impeachment. Assuming they would be confident in having enough votes for removal, going through with the process ties up Congress for a long time. That would prevent them from at least trying to capitalize on their majority in both houses + presidency. Beyond that, they'd do so by bringing charges against him. Why would they act until Mueller has concluded his investigation?

If acted earlier then the Republican could leverage that to their advantage by having taken the high ground. The Republicans survived Nixon because enough said "no", not because they did what Republicans do now. Consider that midterms were not supposed to be as they appear now. It was Dems who were weak, but now that's not the case with Republicans abandoning offices. It's entirely possible that the Republicans would have come out better than before Trump for that alone. At that point they wouldn't be facing a minority strong enough to be a significant obstacle but instead have greater power.
 

hal2kilo

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So only Congress can approve much of this, especially the Air Force contract to Korean air company, right? I wonder how much of that cheddar made its way to the various GOP critters via Cohen's RNC slush fund?
I wonder how much of a cut Nunes is getting.