Russia sanctions has just passed Congress. Will Trump sign?

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Will Trump sign the sanctions bill?

  • Trump will sign into law

    Votes: 11 29.7%
  • Trump will veto

    Votes: 26 70.3%

  • Total voters
    37

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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Well, he may have a point on how limits to rolling back sanctions imposed by Legislative branch on the Executive would be subject to some sort of constitutional review, but not sure how that would happen. Can the White House just file a lawsuit? Would it go to Federal district court or would it immediately be rushed up to SCOTUS?
The usual route to test constitutionality of a restriction is to violate the law as written and then respond to a subsequent lawsuit. The problem I see is that Trump signed the law. If he believes it to be unconstitutional, the proper course was to veto the law. If Trump now willfully violates the law, it is Iran-Contra all over again.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Trump signed it because his ego wouldn't be able to handle Congress overriding his veto.


I will say this though; had there been any other president in the office who doesn't have the same sort of ties trump does to the Russians, I'd be 100% against this law as I think it's unconstitutional. However trump is such an affront to our democracy that I think his ties to Russia should be investigated fully and completed before he is given any power that would affect Russia.

My prediction is that this will probably go to the supreme court were it will be overturned.
 
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FelixDeCat

Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Good. Now we can start undoing these ridiculous sanctions and start doing business again with our friends - the Russians.
 
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agent00f

Lifer
Jun 9, 2016
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Going to pass the senate 98-2 (Sanders and Paul voting against - figures).

Will T-Rump sign? Major veto proof votes.

Trump seriously screwed himself with congress over Priebus and Sessions. He can't even get being a puppet right.
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
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Good. Now we can start undoing these ridiculous sanctions and start doing business again with our friends - the Russians.

The way today's Republicans are sucking up to Russia, it's causing the Great Conservative God, Ronnie Rayguns, to roll over and over in his grave.
 
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Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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If he really thought it was unconstitutional he should have vetoed, forced congressional override & filed a lawsuit.

Sanctions against Iran are particularly pointless given that the other signatories to the deal won't go along. It just means that US businesses will get cut out of an expanding market in Iran.

Nose. face. chop.
 

alien42

Lifer
Nov 28, 2004
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so about these Russian sanctions, for which an October 1st deadline was set for the trump administration to issue guidance.

well, three weeks later and they still haven't done anything. it's like like they're providing bullets for Mueller's gun.
 
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Jan 25, 2011
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Meanwhile they moved immediately on sanctions for NK and I'm sure they will for these new Iranian ones they just passed in Congress.
 
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Trump threw Tillerson under the bus again. Yesterday he said the State Department is the reason sanctions are late.
Trump seems to have trouble understanding it's his State Department
 
Jan 25, 2011
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Trump threw Tillerson under the bus again. Yesterday he said the State Department is the reason sanctions are late.
Trump seems to have trouble understanding it's his State Department
Amazing how much he holds Obama responsible for and yet how little he holds himself responsible.

Has he actually said he was responsible for anything negative?



I kid I kid. of course he hasn't.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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So much for being the law and order president.

I've heard trump publicly talk more shit about America than he has about Russia. Hopefully the traitor will get what's coming to him.
 

interchange

Diamond Member
Oct 10, 1999
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Man. He should be getting roasted right now, but it seems this story doesn't capture American interest. We are a broken society and we don't even realize it.
 

Paratus

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Jun 4, 2004
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Bump to remind folks about who Felix really is.
Yes comrade Felix is true friend to Russia.
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