Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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Meanwhile, the Polish government website gov.pl published a notice titled "Beware of disinformation related to violations of Polish airspace by drones".

The notice states that increased activity of disinformation campaigns conducted by russian and Belarusian services has been detected. The main aim of these campaigns is to shift responsibility for violations of Polish airspace onto the Ukrainian side, and to discredit the actions taken by the Polish military and security services.

Here are some of the disinformation narratives identified by NASK's Disinformation Analysis Office:
  • Ukrainians are dragging Poland into the war (this is a Ukrainian provocation) - claims are being spread that Ukraine is responsible for drone incursions into Polish airspace. It is suggested that directing drones toward Poland was a way to draw our country into a war with russia. Disinformation actors emphasize that Ukrainian forces allegedly did not shoot down the objects while they were in Ukrainian airspace.
  • Ukrainians have dragged Poland into the war - as part of this campaign, messages circulate that Ukraine is trying to force Poland into war, pointing to Kyiv as the party responsible for launching drones toward Poland.
  • NATO is powerless - "Geran-2" drones are presented as a real threat, and NATO's weakness is highlighted, claiming it only reacts after drones enter Polish airspace.
  • The Polish army is unprepared to defend the country - there are messages claiming that the Polish Army is not ready to defend the country. Some publications note that only two drones were shot down and portray this as a sign of state weakness.
  • russia is not responsible for the attack because it has no gain - the narrative spreads that russia is not responsible for the drone incursions into Polish airspace, arguing that russia would gain nothing from launching drones toward Poland.
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www.gov.pl

Uwaga na dezinformacjÄ zwiÄzanÄ z naruszeniem polskiej przestrzeni powietrznej przez drony - Ministerstwo Cyfryzacji - Portal Gov.pl

W trybie nadzwyczajnym odbyÅo siÄ dziÅ spotkanie PoÅÄczonego Centrum Operacji CyberbezpieczeÅstwa, czyli przedstawicieli wszystkich sÅużb zaangażowanych w ochronÄ cyberprzestrzeni.
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Kellogg is playing ball with Trump, but he's old enough to remember dealing with the Russians in the Cold War.

While I think even Putin wouldn't outright try to kill an American dignitary, they definitely prefer the more pliable and clueless Witkoff buffoon. This was an easy way to test and send messages from Putin's perspective, IMO.

There needs to be a cost. EU and Ukraine should do something horrible to something valuable to Putin, tack on another round of cash infusions into Ukraine's coffers, then get back to preparing for the day when the Russian presence in Ukraine and Kaliningrad might be adjudicated by EU/NATO. Wait out the clock until the orange fool dies, which shouldn't be long. America can almost certainly do better for Ukraine, once mentally ill traitors into child rape, who are being blackmailed, are removed from the White House.

Even greedy dirtbags understand America loses and the EU lose if Russia wins in Ukraine. They still like money, still like European vacations themselves. Watch a lot of this shit get ironed out right quick once the pedo king is gone. My fervent hope anyway.
 
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Jaskalas

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kage69 said:
There needs to be a cost.
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Ships at Russian ports need to be sunk. Track their coming and going, then hit them where ever it is opportune.
If a bunch of rebels in a desert can close the Red Sea, we should be able to do something meaningful to blockade Russia.
 
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kage69 said:
Kellogg is playing ball with Trump, but he's old enough to remember dealing with the Russians in the Cold War.

While I think even Putin wouldn't outright try to kill an American dignitary, they definitely prefer the more pliable and clueless Witkoff buffoon. This was an easy way to test and send messages from Putin's perspective, IMO.

There needs to be a cost. EU and Ukraine should do something horrible to something valuable to Putin, tack on another round of cash infusions into Ukraine's coffers, then get back to preparing for the day when the Russian presence in Ukraine and Kaliningrad might be adjudicated by EU/NATO. Wait out the clock until the orange fool dies, which shouldn't be long. America can almost certainly do better for Ukraine, once mentally ill traitors into child rape, who are being blackmailed, are removed from the White House.

Even greedy dirtbags understand America loses and the EU lose if Russia wins in Ukraine. They still like money, still like European vacations themselves. Watch a lot of this shit get ironed out right quick once the pedo king is gone. My fervent hope anyway.
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I think the plan is the flamingos and the like. And with Trump's track record of bankruptcy, I'm not sure I'd trust his judgment. Unfortunately we can't wait until he is gone...
 
JTsyo

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Anyone have a map that shows the path of the drones? My understanding were these were heading to Ukraine over Poland but that only makes sense if they came from the north. Don't think the drones were going for targets within Poland.
 
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JTsyo said:
Anyone have a map that shows the path of the drones? My understanding were these were heading to Ukraine over Poland but that only makes sense if they came from the north. Don't think the drones were going for targets within Poland.
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Basically, it makes no sense for the russians to launch drones into Ukraine through Poland. If I remember correctly, some of the drones flew into Poland from Ukraine, others from Belarus.
 
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dainthomas said:
Went to a talk with Lech Walesa on Monday, and he certainly had a lot to say about Russia even before all this.
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A true hero that deserves the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Bush gave Walesa the medal in 1989. Apparently Trump wants to give Kirk the Presidential Medal of Freedom :disappointed:
 
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pcgeek11

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RnR_au said:
A true hero that deserves the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Bush gave Walesa the medal in 1989. Apparently Trump wants to give Kirk the Presidential Medal of Freedom :disappointed:
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Tit for Tat.

Biden awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom to George Soros.
 
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IronWing said:
George Soros donated 32 billion dollars to promoting democratic societies around the world. Kirk preached the Nazi gospel. See the difference?
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Interesting fact. No wonder Soros is enemy #1. Democratic societies is anathema to Putin's Russia.
 
GodisanAtheist

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pcgeek11 said:
Tit for Tat.

Biden awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom to George Soros.
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-Isnt Soros just a dog whistle for "Jewish Cabal Shadow Government"?

When I looked up his net worth, only $7 billion!

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I too remember when Conservatives, in their own weird way, cared about the influence of billionaires in government.
 
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