Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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zinfamous

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Way to go Dallas SWEDEN!

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"A new pocket-sized Starlink alternative promises secure military communications — safe from interference by billionaire CEOs. The system, named the RU1, was unveiled today by Swedish startup TERASi. It’s billed as the world’s smallest and lightest mm-Wave radio, a form of communications that offers blazing-fast speeds and huge bandwidth."

"It also can’t be remotely disabled or controlled by external actors — a safeguard notably absent from SpaceX’s Starlink. That vulnerability has been strikingly exposed in Ukraine."



Fantastic news for the AFU.

has sweden also developed a "destroy all active Starlink satellites" device? That would be sweet.
 
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Perknose

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Classic KGB Weasel and Would Be Tsar Putin. Sounds a bit desperate to me. If we had better leadership this fucktard leader of the world's biggest third world country would have been overwhelmed by now.

Remember your history, kids. Never mind Ukraine, Russia (and pre-WWII Germany) have never considered Poland to be a legitimate country either.
 
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A Ukrainian Farmer Fought Back Against the Russians. He Paid With His Life.


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"NOVORAISK, Ukraine—Farmer Oleksandr Hordienko first found himself in the Russian army’s crosshairs in the spring, when an explosive drone crashed into one of his tractors. Weeks later, the Russians blew up his car. Then, they bombed his home with several more drones, destroying it.
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The athletic 58-year-old bought tracking equipment and a rifle and started shooting the drones down, bagging more than 80, by his own count. Then the Russians went after him.
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He sold his wife’s car and bought two electronic jammers at $10,000 apiece that can down the drones by blocking the signal from the pilot’s remote control. He put one jammer on the tractor and one on the roof of his car, flicking them on whenever there was potential danger. He also bought tracking equipment and a rifle to defend against drones controlled via fiber-optic cable, which can’t be jammed.

As his workers drove combines in the fields, kicking up dust behind them, he would follow in his car and keep careful watch. Once, he shot down eight in one day using his rifle.

“I’m of Cossack blood,” said Hordienko, referring to Ukrainian farmer-warriors of centuries past. “We will fight for this land. For us, this land is everything.”
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The Russians finally caught Hordienko on Friday, as he was driving his car alongside a tractor in a field not far from the riverside. Officials said a drone targeted him in his vehicle, causing an explosion. His colleague pulled him out of the car and, after calling for help, drove him to the nearest medical point. Hordienko died of his wounds in an ambulance en route to the hospital."

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Jaskalas

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Remember your history, kids. Never mind Ukraine, Russia (and pre-WWII Germany) have never considered Poland to be a legitimate country either.
Since the invasion of Europe began, Russia has constantly claimed the former territory of both the Russian Empire and the Soviet Union. Sweden and Finland did not join NATO without cause.
Unless Russia is stopped in Ukraine, their invasion will expand to more countries.
 

sdifox

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It would be hilarious for Poland to fire a missile at Kremlin but replace the payload with Kielbasa.
 
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Yeah not sure. Maybe they are trying to scare NATO countries. The Poles managed to shoot down 4 out of the 19 drones. Some of them flew 300km into Poland. Not exactly a good outcome.

There are two countries that currently knows how to conduct a drone war. Ukraine and Russia. Maybe this was a demo to NATO to show that they will be unprepared if they decide to square up against Russia. Quite a number of NATO countries have stated that they would be willing to help keep the peace in Ukraine after a peace agreement. Putin wants nothing of the kind. He wants Ukraine alone and weak.

Can he scare the citizens and voters of NATO countries to fark off out of Russia's perceived sphere of control? Maybe this drone op was not a military op. Maybe it was a psyop. Maybe its fodder for their many minions in the social network spaces to amp up a pro-Russia narrative.
This is a display of Putin's arrogance and impunity. Look – I can strike a NATO country, so what are you going to do? Not only did "Shaheds" hit Polish territory, but a "Gerber" UAV was found near Łódź, as well as missile fragments. And just a few days ago, there were reports of a Russian military helicopter violating Estonian airspace. Putin is increasingly probing NATO's borders to see how much he'll be allowed before it's too late. The Suwałki Corridor from Belarus to Kaliningrad is a very tempting bit for him.
 
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This is a display of Putin's arrogance and impunity. Look – I can strike a NATO country, so what are you going to do? Not only did "Shaheds" hit Polish territory, but a "Gerber" UAV was found near Łódź, as well as missile fragments. And just a few days ago, there were reports of a Russian military helicopter violating Estonian airspace. Putin is increasingly probing NATO's borders to see how much he'll be allowed before it's too late. The Suwałki Corridor from Belarus to Kaliningrad is a very tempting bit for him.

If the Poles really thought that he was making a serious play for the gap they'd level Kaliningrad.
 
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Of course not but the forces there can't link up with a thrust from Belarus if they are dead.
But that would require a pre-emptive strike. And what about the policy of de-escalation? Poland could try to do this, but I'm not sure if NATO would support it.
 

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But that would require a pre-emptive strike. And what about the policy of non-de-escalation? Poland could try to do this, but I'm not sure if NATO would support it.

If Poland saw a massive buildup in Belarus opposite the gap they would have deployed their soon to be enormous amount of rocket artillery all within range of Kaliningrad. Finger hovering over the button in case the Russians cross the border.
 
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If Poland saw a massive buildup in Belarus opposite the gap they would have deployed their soon to be enormous amount of rocket artillery all within range of Kaliningrad. Finger hovering over the button in case the Russians cross the border.
Yes, they can do it. And although I only mentioned the gap as an example, I doubt that russia would dare to do something like that at this stage, at least not while it is at war with us. But they could try to repeat the drone attacks. The recent incident was definitely not an accident.
 
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Yes, they can do it. And although I only mentioned the gap as an example, I doubt that russia would dare to do something like that at this stage, at least not while it is at war with us. But they could try to repeat the drone attacks. The recent incident was definitely not an accident.
I fear now for the Baltic countries... if Poland, which is strong, didn't managed to stop the drones... what will happen with the weaker ones?
 

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Yes, they can do it. And although I only mentioned the gap as an example, I doubt that russia would dare to do something like that at this stage, at least not while it is at war with us. But they could try to repeat the drone attacks. The recent incident was definitely not an accident.

Yes, it will probably be a few years before this is a concern. Obviously this size of incursion was not a mistake.
 
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I fear now for the Baltic countries... if Poland, which is strong, didn't managed to stop the drones... what will happen with the weaker ones?
But no one can; russia can currently launch from 100 to 200 drones in a short period of time (this is not in theory, but literally in practice right now). They all fly low and are quite difficult to shoot down. No air defense system will be able to cope with such a number of targets. The best option is to build up your own military-industrial complex. So if russia launches 100 drones at you, you could launch 200 in response.
 

K1052

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But no one can; russia can currently launch from 100 to 200 drones in a short period of time (this is not in theory, but literally in practice right now). They all fly low and are quite difficult to shoot down. No air defense system will be able to cope with such a number of targets. The best option is to build up your own military-industrial complex. So if russia launches 100 drones at you, you could launch 200 in response.

Yes, even NATO forces are not equipped to deal with this particular situation. Which is why the real answer is to blow up the drone factory in Yelabuga with cruise missiles. And sink the Russian Baltic Fleet.
 

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Yes, even NATO forces are not equipped to deal with this particular situation. Which is why the real answer is to blow up the drone factory in Yelabuga with cruise missiles. And sink the Russian Baltic Fleet.
The NATO version of a response to the current situation is to be gathering intel on every building that's been housing or manufacturing shaheds for the last 6 months, destroy every one of them, in a single salvo, along with anything else that would be considered militarily operable. Western doctrine isn't 'absorb losses until we win through attrition'.
 

K1052

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The NATO version of a response to the current situation is to be gathering intel on every building that's been housing or manufacturing shaheds for the last 6 months, destroy every one of them, in a single salvo, along with anything else that would be considered militarily operable. Western doctrine isn't 'absorb losses until we win through attrition'.

Also throwing drones into civil targets in European cities is how you get St. Petersburg bombed into oblivion.
 

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Yes, even NATO forces are not equipped to deal with this particular situation. Which is why the real answer is to blow up the drone factory in Yelabuga with cruise missiles. And sink the Russian Baltic Fleet.

And turn Kaliningrad into a parking lot.
 

hal2kilo

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Classic KGB Weasel and Would Be Tsar Putin. Sounds a bit desperate to me. If we had better leadership this fucktard leader of the world's biggest third world country would have been overwhelmed by now.

Remember your history, kids. Never mind Ukraine, Russia (and pre-WWII Germany) have never considered Poland to be a legitimate country either.
Yea, my maternal German ancestry, grandmother, surname Byer, home town is actually in Poland now.
 
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Yes, even NATO forces are not equipped to deal with this particular situation. Which is why the real answer is to blow up the drone factory in Yelabuga with cruise missiles. And sink the Russian Baltic Fleet.
Yeah, russia only understands the language of force and power. If they sense weakness, they will definitely strike.
 

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I fear now for the Baltic countries... if Poland, which is strong, didn't managed to stop the drones... what will happen with the weaker ones?
No country, except Ukraine and Russia have experience with drone fighting. No, not even USA. It's tricky, it's a different kind of warfare and while you can use at first expensive rockets and ammo to counter it, you deplete very fast the expensive reserves and then they saturate AA with 1000 cheap Shaheds and send 20 Kinjals. Using slow propeller aircraft and helicopters to hunt down Shaheds, use Gepards with fragmentation ammo and such is the best counter to the drones right now
 

K1052

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No country, except Ukraine and Russia have experience with drone fighting. No, not even USA. It's tricky, it's a different kind of warfare and while you can use at first expensive rockets and ammo to counter it, you deplete very fast the expensive reserves and then they saturate AA with 1000 cheap Shaheds and send 20 Kinjals. Using slow propeller aircraft and helicopters to hunt down Shaheds, use Gepards with fragmentation ammo and such is the best counter to the drones right now

Yeah there is a reason the Germans want to procure like 500 Skyrangers. They've got eyes.