Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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DZero

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Dear Ukraine. Prepare your nuclear options. Even if it is just dirty bombs.
Why?
My local MAGA have the latest hair brained idea. They want the CIA to assassinate Ukraine's government leaders until the survivors surrender to Putin.
If something happens, you need to be prepared.
That would just unlock the war for Europe... because NATO forces are there and CIA would risk their image to transform into a new FSB
 

Udgnim

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if EU / NATO is serious about defending Ukraine, they need to put boots in Ukraine

not far off from the Trump Administration announcing that the US is allies with Russia
 
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Dear Ukraine. Prepare your nuclear options. Even if it is just dirty bombs.
Why?
My local MAGA have the latest hair brained idea. They want the CIA to assassinate Ukraine's government leaders until the survivors surrender to Putin.
If something happens, you need to be prepared.
If nuclear weapons hadn't been taken away from us in the first place, things would be different now.
 

trenchfoot

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This talk of bargaining for a peace deal with Ukraine between Trump and Putin is pretty much a deal that gives Putin all the time he needs to rearm and train more mobiks to finish his Special Military Operation where three days turned into over three years of unfinished business for Trump and himself.

Putin never honors deals he makes that deprives him of getting everything he wants out of them. Making deals is just a step in his overall plan to take everything and give nothing in return when the fruits of his patience are hanging low enough for him to snatch them and get clean away with it. Crimea is a perfect example. Hitler used the same gameplan that worked great for him....for awhile.

So why in hell would anyone believe that the serial liar Trump and the "I make deals that expire right after I sign them" Putin would honor a deal they made over Ukraine when they both want to exploit Ukraine's land and peoples for their own personal fun and profit. Trump is off on his drug addled dreams of indescribable wealth and grandeur while Putin is having fun with his hands up the orange sock puppet's ass.

Meanwhile, Trump has got his Congress on their hands and knees bootlicking their way through episodes of fearing him and appeasing him, a SCOTUS that is defending every crime he perpetrates and they are all in one way or another a part of the deal where Putin and Trump wants to make Ukraine a puppet state that they can exploit at their whim and will. There is no deal to be had. There is only Trump giving Putin more time to finish off Ukraine the way he likes while giving Trump a business opportunity he can't refuse.

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RnR_au

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idk... I don't read MAGA responses often in the social media space. Their narrative is completely divorced from the truth. They seem to be effectively arguing that Ukraine's War of Independence should be fought without the help of 'France' aka the USA.

How the fark did Russia completely capture this mind share amongst Trump supporters? Absolute freedom of speech seems to give suboptimal Democracy results with the current voting rules and regulations in the USA.
 

hal2kilo

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idk... I don't read MAGA responses often in the social media space. Their narrative is completely divorced from the truth. They seem to be effectively arguing that Ukraine's War of Independence should be fought without the help of 'France' aka the USA.

How the fark did Russia completely capture this mind share amongst Trump supporters? Absolute freedom of speech seems to give suboptimal Democracy results with the current voting rules and regulations.
It's called propaganda and that's what the Dems don't have. It apparently works really well.
 
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DZero

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Trump doing what he is doing right now is a blessing for any centre / centre left party in Europe right now.
Is actually a bless for ANY Anti Russian... even China is starting to see as an advantage, even if it means the end of the relation with Russia since Russia and US seems to be forming into a new alliance.
 

VRAMdemon

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Trump accused Zelenskyy of invading his own country. Sunsetting is real.

Trump: - "No one’s been tougher on Russia than me”

- Putin’s puppet.

Pearl Harbor had it coming. It’s their fault the Japanese attacked.

- WW2 era Trump
 

VRAMdemon

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Donald calls Putin "savvy" for starting a war and mass murdering innocent people.

Donald then calls Zelensky a dictator for defending his country

Also, then Trump posts a picture of himself as a king

"Troll, troll troll your boat gently down the stream!"

In his wildest dreams, Putin did not think his investment in Trump would pay off like this!
 

kage69

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How appropriate for a convicted sexual predator with 25 credible rape allegations against him playing the blame-the-victim "what was she wearing?" card with Ukraine. That dirty slut state wanted it, orchestrated it even! *puke*

C'mooooooon bloodclot. America needs you.

I just feel so bad for Zelenskyy. Tens of thousands of Ukrainians murdered, with plenty of torture, rape, and child abduction mixed in too. Crimes Against Humanity. And a leader of Zelenskyy's caliber has to listen to an ignorant dipshit like Trump blame them for being invaded, and now he wants to screw them over like he did the Afghans.

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Artorias

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if EU / NATO is serious about defending Ukraine, they need to put boots in Ukraine

not far off from the Trump Administration announcing that the US is allies with Russia
EU needs to get their before America actually put boots on ground in a "peacekeeping operation".

I think that's the next play. US/Russia create a side deal to implement a DMZ managed by the USA.

Ukraine have no cards to play if the USA decide to come into their country. They simply cant fight the USA.

Russia siphons off the resources from their current gains, lets them re-arm for round two after the USA abandons NATO, USA removes all sanctions.

Honestly I can see USA annex Canada now after tariffs, and we cut off energy, call it a national security issue, martial law and you know the rest.

That's where this is all headed. If they do that within two years(before next mid-term election) then we're all fucked.
 
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Young Grasshopper

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if EU / NATO is serious about defending Ukraine, they need to put boots in Ukraine


Big talk from the safety of your keyboard. How about you go first, tough guy? Let’s see how long you last before you’re begging for an evac.

Amazing how people (especially politicians) are so eager to send other people’s kids to die, moving them around like chess pieces except in this game, pawns don’t get to respawn.

But hey, keep LARPing as a war general from your couch. Maybe they’ll name a trench after you.
 
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Jaskalas

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How the fark did Russia completely capture this mind share amongst Trump supporters? Absolute freedom of speech seems to give suboptimal Democracy results with the current voting rules and regulations in the USA.
In our hubris we allowed social media and Fox News to carry the speech of our enemy.

Since 2014 Russia has been at war with us. In 2016 they installed their puppet. Exceptionally fast and effective results. But the propaganda from Russia NEVER stopped. Americans have been buried in it for over 10 years now. This is the result. Absolute free speech is death.