Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

[kage69]

Another expiring product, and that too little and too late. I guess they were sleeping since 2021. Another way to fight this war on the cheap and look good at it. You suckers are too easy to please.

No one with an attitude to win goes to the prom with hand-me-down clothes.

Good of you to be upfront admitting you don't know what you are talking about, in this case how many "expired" American weapons have turned orcs into goo.

No one who knows a minimum about warfare posts the nonsense you do.

American weapons from the 50s like Hawk still work killing Russians, that must not sit well with you. 20 year old Patriot defeats Russian "hypersonics," yeeesh. That's gotta suck. Like seeing your friends roll out rusty T-54s, or American APCs killing top end Russian tanks? There there.

 

[Amused]

Whatever treaty you signed with Russia is dead in the water now. Neither of you honored the spirit of the agreement. At this point, it is just toilet paper.

What part of that agreement specifically was broken by Ukraine or the US?

Ill give you a hint. Nothing in that agreement states Ukraine cannot do wgat ever the fuck they want as long as they do not attack Russia or get nukes. Period.

Anything else you're just rectally sourcing.

 

[trenchfoot]

Braznor is defending the indefensible just like Trump's supporters are supporting Trump. He keeps flogging a dead horse while everyone witnessing him doing that is telling him he can't whip that dead nag back to life no matter how hard he tries yet there he is wasting all his energy and efforts with absolutely nothing to show for it...well except for the fact that it seems he's getting angrier every time someone points out how futile his effort is.

Me? I'm just looking at him go at it and wonder why, in the name of insanity's definition, he's doing the same thing over and over again as if he's expecting a different result at every try.

Puzzling in a sort'a amusing kind'a way. But hey, if he gets off on that sort'a stuff, well, knock yerself out there Your Resoluteness.

 

[Jaskalas]

Me? I'm just looking at him go at it and wonder why, in the name of insanity's definition, he's doing the same thing over and over again as if he's expecting a different result at every try.

Part of the role propaganda plays is drowning out the signal of truth with the noise of lies.
Simply spewing !@#$ is an effective strategy for communication. Just look at MAGA. Look at Russians. Look at North Koreans.
Truth CAN be buried and killed.

Humans will look at the noise and simply lap up whatever they identify with first.

 

[cytg111]

Braznor is defending the indefensible just like Trump's supporters are supporting Trump. He keeps flogging a dead horse while everyone witnessing him doing that is telling him he can't whip that dead nag back to life no matter how hard he tries yet there he is wasting all his energy and efforts with absolutely nothing to show for it...well except for the fact that it seems he's getting angrier every time someone points out how futile his effort is.

Me? I'm just looking at him go at it and wonder why, in the name of insanity's definition, he's doing the same thing over and over again as if he's expecting a different result at every try.

Puzzling in a sort'a amusing kind'a way. But hey, if he gets off on that sort'a stuff, well, knock yerself out there Your Resoluteness.

Well, someone told him to be mad at the west. We should probably take notice of the origin of this propaganda cause, well, we have history of untreated propaganda festering...

 

[kage69]

America sends another $725mil aid package to Ukraine

"...an additional $725 million in military assistance, including counter-drone systems and munitions for its High Mobility Artillery Rocket System, which could indicate more of the longer-range missiles are headed to the battlefield."

Load'em up!


Kudos to Biden and Americans who Get It. Sympathies to the miserable drunk fucks who get to play catch with HIMARS. They should really do something about the butcher sending them and their country into the wood chipper.

 

[Jaskalas]

More Baltic cables being severed.
Waiting for Europe to grow a spine and fight back.....

https://twitter.com/x/status/1863879271355228367

 

[fskimospy]

Whatever treaty you signed with Russia is dead in the water now. Neither of you honored the spirit of the agreement. At this point, it is just toilet paper.

What a silly and obvious lie. The US honored our commitments and Russia didn’t. This is obvious to anyone who can read.

 

[Jaskalas]

What a silly and obvious lie. The US honored our commitments and Russia didn’t. This is obvious to anyone who can read.

It could be argued that we failed to honor Ukraine's territorial integrity when we chose not to kill the invaders (Russians) ourselves.
Having surrendered their nuclear weapons, they needed protection. We failed to provide.

 

[Brovane]

More Baltic cables being severed.
Waiting for Europe to grow a spine and fight back.....

https://twitter.com/x/status/1863879271355228367

You would be surprised how fiber cables like this are catnip for backhoes at construction sites.

 

[K1052]

You would be surprised how fiber cables like this are catnip for backhoes at construction sites.

Yeah fiber cuts on land for non-nefarious reasons are extremely common.

Some rando Chinese ship with a Russian captain dragging his anchor for like 100 miles...not an innocent mistake.

 

[fskimospy]

It could be argued that we failed to honor Ukraine's territorial integrity when we chose not to kill the invaders (Russians) ourselves.
Having surrendered their nuclear weapons, they needed protection. We failed to provide.

That’s not what that term has ever meant in the history of diplomacy. Respecting someone’s territorial integrity does not mean sudden article 5 NATO protection.

Regardless, the memorandum required the US and Russia to ‘respect’ Ukraine’s territorial integrity and to not use military force against it. The US did that. Russia did not.

 

[K1052]

Another chaotic Russian retreat in a different place once again leaves something rather important behind. One can feel the phones being picked up at the CIA when they see this picture.

 

[K1052]

Rutte gets at the core problems with many Euro and US defense suppliers. Countries need more rapidly built, less costly arms.

https://www.reuters.com/business/ae...ms-need-produce-more-lower-prices-2024-12-04/

"We are producing not enough, at too high prices, and delivery is too slow, so defence industry needs to put in more shifts, needs to put in more production lines," said Rutte, NATO's secretary general and former Dutch prime minister.

"We cannot have a situation where we just pay more for the same and we see large kickbacks to the shareholders," he told reporters after a two-day meeting of NATO foreign ministers at alliance headquarters in Brussels.
Rutte said some NATO countries were turning to South Korean arms firms because "our own defence companies are not producing at the rate we need".

Honestly one solution for this is called "Ukraine". They can produce equipment far more inexpensively/faster than the rest of Europe when funded.

 

[Perknose]

Financial Times newsletter claims this:

Russia uses civilians as ‘target practice’ for killer drones​ ​ There is little more comforting to the people of Kherson these days than the sight of bad weather. When clouds gather, rain pours and winds sweep through this southern Ukrainian city, locals take their cue to run errands — sensing a pause, at least temporarily, in the terror that has filled their skies. Kherson’s civilians have been, since midsummer, the target of an experiment without precedent in modern European warfare: a concerted Russian campaign to empty a city by stalking its residents with attack drones.

The link is for paid subscribers only, which I no longer am.

 

[K1052]

Financial Times newsletter claims this:

​ ​ Russia uses civilians as ‘target practice’ for killer drones​ There is little more comforting to the people of Kherson these days than the sight of bad weather. When clouds gather, rain pours and winds sweep through this southern Ukrainian city, locals take their cue to run errands — sensing a pause, at least temporarily, in the terror that has filled their skies. Kherson’s civilians have been, since midsummer, the target of an experiment without precedent in modern European warfare: a concerted Russian campaign to empty a city by stalking its residents with attack drones.

The link is for paid subscribers only, which I no longer am.

Yeah, this has been happening for quite some time. Standard Soviet tactics of "just add more terror".

 

[Jaskalas]

That’s not what that term has ever meant in the history of diplomacy. Respecting someone’s territorial integrity does not mean sudden article 5 NATO protection.

Regardless, the memorandum required the US and Russia to ‘respect’ Ukraine’s territorial integrity and to not use military force against it. The US did that. Russia did not.

In some respect, yes. Game of Thrones shows you the value of holding a piece of paper. It's an act of suicide.
The 20/20 view is only nukes provide deterrence. Everyone in the world can see Ukraine bleeding, in desperate need of aid, and learn the lesson of this war.

Yet we push for another peace deal with Russia. Who has no intention of honoring a deal or keeping peace.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1864052978241749304

 

[fskimospy]

In some respect, yes. Game of Thrones shows you the value of holding a piece of paper. It's an act of suicide.
The 20/20 view is only nukes provide deterrence. Everyone in the world can see Ukraine bleeding, in desperate need of aid, and learn the lesson of this war.

Yet we push for another peace deal with Russia. Who has no intention of honoring a deal or keeping peace.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1864052978241749304

I have no argument here - in retrospect Ukraine should have kept its nukes.

In addition you raise the central issue here, that being namely that as Russia has violated every previous agreement there is no reason for anyone to think they will abide by a new one.

 

[kage69]

Blinken just said the US and the EU are working fast to give $50billion in frozen Russian funds to Ukraine.

Suck it down Putin!

 

[kage69]

Kyiv says they'll accept no substitutes to NATO membership. Nor should they.

"Having the bitter experience of the Budapest Memorandum behind us, we will not settle for any alternatives, surrogates, or substitutes for Ukraine's full membership in NATO,"

Perfectly understandable.

 

[K1052]

Kyiv says they'll accept no substitutes to NATO membership. Nor should they.

"Having the bitter experience of the Budapest Memorandum behind us, we will not settle for any alternatives, surrogates, or substitutes for Ukraine's full membership in NATO,"

Perfectly understandable.

Staking out a maximal position ahead of negotiations is the smart move. Likely to make whatever security package (arms, foreign basing, presence on conflict line) they get from the UK/EU stouter.

 

[you2]

Russians are weird:

Russian Troops Switch To Bicycles. ‘This Is F’ed.’

A policy against civilian automobiles has driven Russian forces to bikes.

www.forbes.com

 

[Perknose]

Russians are weird:

Russian Troops Switch To Bicycles. ‘This Is F’ed.’

A policy against civilian automobiles has driven Russian forces to bikes.

www.forbes.com

Stormcyclist!

 

[JTsyo]

I have no argument here - in retrospect Ukraine should have kept its nukes.

In addition you raise the central issue here, that being namely that as Russia has violated every previous agreement there is no reason for anyone to think they will abide by a new one.

Ukraine was a poor country. The nukes would have been a drain. They would have to download the fissionable material and build new warheads that they controlled. By now the warhead would also have to be refurbished to be a viable threat.

 

[fskimospy]

Ukraine was a poor country. The nukes would have been a drain. They would have to download the fissionable material and build new warheads that they controlled. By now the warhead would also have to be refurbished to be a viable threat.

It would not have been easy. Yes. Would the cost have been less than this? Yes.