Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

[whyitso]

Say something bad about Putin and Xi.

What and whay I should say something about Xi? China more than 40 years wasn't at war with anybody, didn't war crimes. Why is there so much hype about their aggressiveness? The US surrounds them with bases, supplies their opponents with weapons, commits provocations in the territories of the recognized part of China, but bad is China?

 

[whyitso]

evidence would you accept that Russia has targeted hospitals?

photos of military personnel among the victims in ruins of hospital. In such case it make sense.
For purpose to force the population to put pressure on the authorities, the strikes at energy supply facilities much more effective and morally acceptable.

 

[dainthomas]

Yes, Russia is evil because it evacuates children from war zones, feeds and educates them. This can be called genocide, by cleverly changing the term. Genocide is what Hitler did. Putin = Hitler. Profit

"Nearly 15,000 other children in Gaza have been killed since the war began on Oct. 7, 2023, according to the United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights. "Gaza has become a graveyard for children, with thousands of others missing, their fates unknown," Stoner said"

But it is ok, Israel is freind, these are good democratic bombs, these children deserve this fate because of the wrong parents. And the 108 journalists killed in Gaza were not even people, but propagandists

The world outside of US mass media bubble see it and discuss it. Western countries losing remaning moral stance.
Are you able to feel it?

Well, they're both bad.

And if they effed off it wouldn't be a war zone.

 

[fskimospy]

photos of military personnel among the victims in ruins of hospital. In such case it make sense.
For purpose to force the population to put pressure on the authorities, the strikes at energy supply facilities much more effective and morally acceptable.

That wouldn’t make sense. I’m asking you for what evidence you would accept that they are NOT military targets.

 

[you2]

Either they target them on purpose or they are even shittier at targeting than we think and that would be really fucking shitty.

It would be difficult to imagine that since they seem to hit hospitals; schools; museum and similar better than military targets.

Shit country - and you should see how they whine because the france won't allow some of their spies 'cover' the olympics.

 

[cytg111]

photos of military personnel among the victims in ruins of hospital. In such case it make sense.
For purpose to force the population to put pressure on the authorities, the strikes at energy supply facilities much more effective and morally acceptable.

Wait wasnt that how you just reached consensus that Israel had committed warcrimes? But it's different if Russia does it?

 

[whyitso]

What evidence will you accept? Be as specific as possible

Ok, very specific - the crime shoudn't be out of context.
Let's see the story of Chezh mercenary on court, here the original article, you could translate it with google:

Na Ukrajině kradl cenné brýle i dýchací masku. „My jsme byli zákon,“ říká muž - Seznam Zprávy

Městský soud v Praze začal řešit případ muže, kterého obžaloba viní z nelegální služby v ukrajinské armádě a z plenění v místě válečných operací.

www.seznamzpravy.cz

He also explained the facts about some of the stolen items, such as branded glasses. "It was the only memory of a friend, I didn't think it would be a problem," commented Siman. It is said that others also took things from fallen soldiers. The man also described why he was wearing a gold ring, which appears in the indictment as illegal loot. At first, he allegedly used it as a prop in promotional videos in which he starred. But he admitted that he continued to wear the ring after that.

With his battalion, Filip Siman, according to his words, had the task of taking everything of value from the affected areas and bringing it back to the headquarters. "We were the law, so they told us," the man said, adding that it was all about finding as much intelligence as possible. "We were looking for everything. Electronics, documents, handwritten journals, unit insignia.'

According to the testimony, Siman also became an executioner in the volunteer armed battalion. "We were the police, we were the court, we were the firing squad when it came down to it," he added.

He stated that he followed the instructions of the commanding officer, and according to him other soldiers also behaved similarly.

Until peace is concluded and a real investigation is carried out with the participation of all parties, and not a fictitious one that will blame Russia for everything, it’s stupid to admit something seriously before.

 

[IronWing]

Until peace is concluded and a real investigation is carried out with the participation of all parties, and not a fictitious one that will blame Russia for everything, it’s stupid to admit something seriously before.

So once Russian aggression is defeated then you'll be willing to admit to Russian war crimes? Well, okay, then let's get on with defeating Russian aggression.

 

[brycejones]

What and whay I should say something about Xi? China more than 40 years wasn't at war with anybody, didn't war crimes. Why is there so much hype about their aggressiveness? The US surrounds them with bases, supplies their opponents with weapons, commits provocations in the territories of the recognized part of China, but bad is China?

Now we know who you work for. Thanks.

 

[whyitso]

It's practically doctrine for them to target hospitals.

this is just a manipulative article with unsupported statements from some “experts” and vivid emotional images.
Here author is 100% sure which rocket it was (every comment about compare of photo with NASAMS rocket were deleted in comments at Ukrainian media) and absolutly sure it was deliberate:

KYIV — The Russian Kh-101 cruise missile that smashed into Kyiv's Okhmatdyt children's hospital earlier this week may have been a war crime, but it was no accident.

Monday's strike on Okhmatdyt injured over 30 people, including eight children, and killed two people, one of them a doctor, Ukrainian authorities said. It also left Ukraine's premier children's hospital in ruins.

Does the result match the terror strike description? Is this even close to Israeli strikes? Only one side building is hit, but "hospital in ruins."
Also a very importnant information, just in case if readers forget what we should think:

"The bloodshed unleashed by Russian leader Vladimir Putin is horrific."

Don’t you find it disgusting to consume such low quality news articles?

 

[Brovane]

Ok, very specific - the crime shoudn't be out of context.
Let's see the story of Chezh mercenary on court, here the original article, you could translate it with google:

Na Ukrajině kradl cenné brýle i dýchací masku. „My jsme byli zákon,“ říká muž - Seznam Zprávy

Městský soud v Praze začal řešit případ muže, kterého obžaloba viní z nelegální služby v ukrajinské armádě a z plenění v místě válečných operací.

www.seznamzpravy.cz

Until peace is concluded and a real investigation is carried out with the participation of all parties, and not a fictitious one that will blame Russia for everything, it’s stupid to admit something seriously before.

So you are saying after Germany surrendered in WW2, the same government that committed the Holocaust should have been part of the investigation into the Holocaust?

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

This wasn't done two years ago?

US banks to begin reporting Russian assets for eventual forfeiture under new law​

The Treasury Department is ordering the nation’s banking industry to start disclosing its holdings of Russian assets, with the goal of eventually seizing those billions of dollars in assets and selling them to aid the devastated Ukrainian economy.

 

[fskimospy]

Ok, very specific - the crime shoudn't be out of context.
Let's see the story of Chezh mercenary on court, here the original article, you could translate it with google:

Na Ukrajině kradl cenné brýle i dýchací masku. „My jsme byli zákon,“ říká muž - Seznam Zprávy

Městský soud v Praze začal řešit případ muže, kterého obžaloba viní z nelegální služby v ukrajinské armádě a z plenění v místě válečných operací.

www.seznamzpravy.cz

Until peace is concluded and a real investigation is carried out with the participation of all parties, and not a fictitious one that will blame Russia for everything, it’s stupid to admit something seriously before.

So to be clear you are saying no determination of war crimes can be made until peace is concluded?

So then by your logic no determination of war crimes by Israel can be made but you don’t abide by that.

Can you explain your hypocrisy?

 

[fskimospy]

So you are saying after Germany surrendered in WW2, the same government that committed the Holocaust should have been part of the investigation into the Holocaust?

This is why you ask these people to be specific, lol. He did not think this through.

 

[kage69]

you know it's bullshit, because more than 5 millions of former Ukrainian citizens living in Russia now, working and getting Russian passports and you couldn't provide any facts they were genocided (mass killed on the reason of ethnic background). You just repeat it again and again as excuse of hate mongering.

Oh if only claims of bullshit from a fascist stroking liar meant something, right?

But they don't, do they? The previous 1,541 pages here tells you this too, if you bothered to read. I know Russia's genocide is legit because it's been painstakingly documented with physical evidence since the invasion began, you vacuous dipshit. Photographic and physical evidence doesn't care what the Kremlin is paying you, and neither do I. You refuse to believe your eyes and accuse others of just repeating excuses for the sake of hate mongering - in America we call this 'pussy ass projection.' Linked sources (what I've provided here for some time) aren't baseless repetition - that's what you're doing. Do you understand the term 'projection' yet?

Don't be afraid of reality cyka. Putin is a war criminal who has also gleefully engaged in crimes against humanity, face it. He decorated the butchers of Bucha FFS. That's why there's a warrant out for the genocidal midget, also why the only countries who will have anything to do with him are other fascist shitholes.

Claims of bullshit from a fascist stroking liar don't mean anything; don't be mad at us for posting the truth. Be mad at Putin for starting a war that's flushing his country down a sewer.

 

[kage69]

Whyitso, you 'forgot' to answer my very simple question in your haste to lie and offer strawmen. So, one more time:

"The killing of civilians in Israel is horrible, right? We agree. So it's horrible when Russia targets Ukrainian hospitals and shopping centers and kills civilians, RIGHT?

C'mon, let's hear you be consistent about your regard for innocent civilians lives. Someone who isn't a pathetic fascist promoting prick should have a real problem with Putin targeting civilians so much, so let's hear it. Or is it you only care about Palestinians, and Ukrainians can get fucked? Is repeating bullshit denials and propaganda the extent of what you can do?

So far you appear identical to the other pro fascist shitheads we've chewed up and spit out here. I'm guessing like them you don't have the stones to be honest. Prove me wrong.

 

[vi edit]

Oh sweet summer grasshopper.

*Plonk*

 

[kage69]

Another reminder for Putin's apologists



"On a visit to Ukraine in June 2022, the Commission observed first-hand the damage that explosive weapons with wide-area effects caused to residential buildings and infrastructure in populated areas, including schools and hospitals. A number of the attacks that the Commission investigated were carried out without distinguishing between civilians and combatants.

“We were struck by the large number of executions in the areas that we visited,” Erik Møse, chair of the Commission, said. “We are concerned about the suffering that the international armed conflict in Ukraine has imposed on the civilian population.”

He added that the Commission is currently investigating executions in 16 towns and settlements, and has received credible allegations regarding many more such cases. Common elements to these crimes included the prior detention of the victims and visible signs of execution, such as hands tied behind backs, gunshot wounds to the head, and slit throats.

Witnesses provided the Commission with consistent accounts of ill-treatment and torture carried out during unlawful confinement. Some of the victims reported that after initial detention by Russian forces in Ukraine, they were transferred to the Russian Federation and held for weeks in detention centres, where they were subjected to torture and other forms of ill-treatment.

The investigation into sexual and gender-based violence has shown that some Russian Federation soldiers committed such crimes. The age of victims of sexual and gender-based violence ranged from four to 82 years. The Commission has also found that children were exposed to repeated explosions, violations, forced displacement and separation from family members, as well as other violations.
In the four areas where the investigation was conducted -- Kyiv, Chernihiv, Kharkiv and Sumy -- the Commission processed two incidents of ill-treatment against Russian Federation soldiers by Ukrainian forces. While few in number, such cases continue to be the subject of the Commission’s attention."




Tip of the iceberg. Mass graves have been exhumed in multiple towns and the contents identified and cataloged. There's no faking this level of butchery.

I keep thinking about the village of Yahidne, which the Russians rounded up at gunpoint and then forced all 367 people into a single basement, then kept them there for an entire month. Interrogating them, torturing them, starving them, killing them. Fuck Putin and fuck Russia, that gas station can't break apart soon enough.

 

[zinfamous]

not fun. It is part of your media bubble. Only one biased part of information is gathered. Pro-ukrainian Wiki moderaters delete anything that contradicts their agenda or calls it into question. It is not about the truth, but also piece of propaganda

shouldn't you be fertilizing sunflowers by now?

what happened?

this work you are doing is utterly dreadful and useless. Let's help you get on the frontline where you meat is most valuable to your handlers.

 

[kage69]

I think Russia doesn't targets hospitals and shopping centers, there is no reason for that, its good only for Ukrainian government to ask more money and weapons from other countries, as well as inspire Ukranian people for fight. These are most likely the results of explosions of military facilities nearby, misses and falls of air defense missiles. The fall of air defense missiles into residential buildings is traditionally attributed to Russian strikes. So, not right

History proves you so very wrong.

Sounds like you're just in denial about how Russians have historically fought then, before this war and during it, and it's naturally everybody else's' problem, not yours. That's funny. You're a funny cyka huh?

But how much of a moron do you have to be in order to ignore what the Russians did to Chechnya, to Afghanistan, to Aleppo? Mariupol ring a bell? Russia has targeted hospitals, shopping centers and hospitals during peak hours to ensure civilians casualties, is now using 'double taps' to kill first responders. The morals and restraint you keep alluding to don't exist, have never existed. Wake the fuck up kid.

You need to spend more time trying to comprehend actual history, less time trying regurgitate Kremlin excuses for going 21st Nazi on their 'slavic brothers.' You sound like you have actual brain damage.

 

[whyitso]

Tip of the iceberg. Mass graves have been exhumed in multiple towns and the contents identified and cataloged. There's no faking this level of butchery.

Above I cited an article about the trial of a Czech mercenary on the side of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, which says that “everyone was engaged in robbery” and “we were the court and executioners.” Therefore, a significant part of these crimes may not be at all at the hands of Russian soldiers. It was ok to kill "collabarants" and accuse Russia as well.

 

[whyitso]

So then by your logic no determination of war crimes by Israel can be made but you don’t abide by that.

Can you explain your hypocrisy?

imagine a mountain of 15 thousand children's bodies. You know exactly who the killer is. But you send weapons, money, and other assistance to the killer.
And 500 children's bodies, 30 times less. You say that the culprit needs to be destroyed, you shout about genocide, you give the victim a weapon with which he hits the children of his opponent. You studiously ignore that the victim had previously killed 200 children.
I see hypocrisy primarily here. Obviously, one shouldn’t expect honest investigations; there is no justice and there never will be. No one will appreciate a gesture of goodwill if you admit your guilt. Who is stronger is right. This is the world you created

 

[whyitso]

I’m asking you for what evidence you would accept that they are NOT military targets.

sometimes Russian bloggers states:
"Finally, we stopped playing at being noble and started using the same tactics as the Ukrainians with their HIMARS attacks - first on the enemy, and then on the rescuers. Stop playing “we’re not like that”, it costs too much - there are different rules in war."
In such case I understand that is real sitation is.
"Ukrainians were the first to begin... killing prisoners, hitting evacuation groups, dropping chemical grenades from drones, and we are doing the same now. But with reservations, for example, that chemical grenades have a non-lethal, irritating effect."
There are always radicals or opposition-minded people who can tell the truth and explain of reasons. These are confessions that I believe.

 

[Jaskalas]

So it's horrible when Russia targets Ukrainian hospitals and shopping centers and kills civilians, RIGHT?

I think Russia doesn't targets hospitals and shopping centers, there is no reason for that

See, that's how we know you are Kremlin. Or rather, their minion.
Because you are deathly afraid of saying they did anything. It is always somebody else.
We know where you get that from. We know you would die if you say anything else. So by all means, slave, keep working for your master. They might keep you around longer. I am rooting for you to not become the next meat wave.

 

[whyitso]

Russia offers to turn Georgia into Syria.
Vlad the Butcher needs more blood for the blood pyre.

quite opposite. georgia making every effort to protect themselves from the influence of Western intelligence services, which, having gained control over the government, will turn the country into a base for the fight against Russia. They have already been in this situation and they see what this led to in the case of Ukraine, they see what is happening with Moldova and many countries where politicians act against the interests of their people on orders from the outside. Therefore, they chose peaceful cooperation. They passed a law against foreign agents similar to that in the United States, but much softer. But this was enough for large-scale protests by the opposition associated with American “democracy development” funds. Quite the contrary, cooperation and refusal to participate in blocs is the path to peace and the absence of bloodshed. But your media turns everything exactly the other way around