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kage69 said:
Mischa Flynn the traitor has an active imagination too, from that sound of that. Maybe he's been partying with Roger Stone too much. Always gives me a good laugh to hear Putin's Western cockholsters act like Russia isn't getting the absolute piss beat out it.
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It's frightening how loony and out of touch with reality Flynn is. This man was a General..
 
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Bravo Berlin. I hope the US can help you maintain some production once you relocate it across the pond.

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He did admit to being Russian on his first post. The language changed at least once though, so the account was likely handed over at some point.
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The sad thing about this whole thing is the trolls want it to be a east/west fight but it has nothing to do with east/west it is simply a loony dictator unsatisfiable greed. Had Putin been satisfied with annexing east Ukraine he probably would have gotten away with it; but the invasion of course changed the pictured....
 
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Yup, both in, ummm, spades. But Flynn is a complete nutjob. He should be in an institution.
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Well there is the open question - how much of the shit he spits out does he actually believe; or is he a sour apple who spit things out as a form of revenge (remember obama fired him and he has never been the same since....).
 
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It shows how broken the command structure is for Russia; the training was probably appropriate but someone decided they needed infantry now due to the well massive amount of deaths. Of course this entire 'war' has been a cluster foobar by the Russian command structure in a major way. I mean go all the way back to Feb where the entire army stalled on their march to Kiev due to lack of appropriate planning. The entire thing was laughable. Also the massive amount of deaths they are suffering the past few months should not be occurring but the Russian command structure don't really give a hoot about Russian lives and perhaps they shouldn't given the equipment and training they are being provided but this is part of the problem and perhaps what led to the invasion in the first place - the total lack of empathy for human life.

This whole 'east vs west' story is just propaganda motivation.

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There had been some concerns that about half the people Putin mobilized were actually receiving training (thus creating a more effective force) and would be put to use later instead of just being used as cannon fodder. Indeed the Russians seem to have spent resources and time training them on more complex tasks but...

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kage69 said:
Patton may have been a racist and a primadona, but he at least understood that Nazis and fascists were not allies.
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Unfortunately that wasn’t really true in his last few months of life. He started remarking about having defeated the wrong enemy and was a proponent of rearming the majority of Germany to fight the Soviets. I think he would have readily accepted an awful lot of Nazis in his midst.
 
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It shows how broken the command structure is for Russia; the training was probably appropriate but someone decided they needed infantry now due to the well massive amount of deaths. Of course this entire 'war' has been a cluster foobar by the Russian command structure in a major way. I mean go all the way back to Feb where the entire army stalled on their march to Kiev due to lack of appropriate planning. The entire thing was laughable. Also the massive amount of deaths they are suffering the past few months should not be occurring but the Russian command structure don't really give a hoot about Russian lives and perhaps they shouldn't given the equipment and training they are being provided but this is part of the problem and perhaps what led to the invasion in the first place - the total lack of empathy for human life.

This whole 'east vs west' story is just propaganda motivation.
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Russia’s main problem from day one was no infantry. Units were all light on infantry even when equipped well, outside of maybe the elite formations.

Now, well into the war, when they’re firing maybe 20% as much artillery due to a shortage of shells, they train more artillery men? This goes back to the culture of lying to everyone about everything. Not enough transparency about what they really need, and that’s motivated infantry to support their tanks, artillery, etc. At the end of the day a man still has to go take ground and hold it to move forward.

I imagine what happened here is that they have an artillery school so someone made use of it, paying no regard to the actual needs of the army. The double tragedy for Russia is that if these guys were motivated and intelligent enough to be successful in artillery school they’d probably have made quite good infantry as well. Now instead due to corruption and stupidity you waste months of training and some of your better conscripts as cannon fodder.
 
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K1052 said:
There had been some concerns that about half the people Putin mobilized were actually receiving training (thus creating a more effective force) and would be put to use later instead of just being used as cannon fodder. Indeed the Russians seem to have spent resources and time training them on more complex tasks but...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610296498155028480
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I actually feel bad for these guys as human beings.
 
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Perknose said:
Yup, both in, ummm, spades. But Flynn is a complete nutjob. He should be in an institution.
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I'd prefer that institution to be Leavenworth.

His litany of 5th Amendment answers to Jan 6th committee was really something. I'd really like to know what it was that caused him to go from intelligence officer worthy of being NSA to Qanon dipshit who doesn't believe in the peaceful transfer of power. Money or is it the replacement theory shit? His exuberance at dealing with Russians personally has always nauseated me, it's like he's got Trump's dictator envy. Him and his brother both should be rotting in cells.
 
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rommelrommel said:
Unfortunately that wasn’t really true in his last few months of life. He started remarking about having defeated the wrong enemy and was a proponent of rearming the majority of Germany to fight the Soviets. I think he would have readily accepted an awful lot of Nazis in his midst.
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Actually yes, I stand corrected. Been awhile since I gave Patton much thought, I had forgotten about his questioning the need to 'denazify.' I should have left it at fascists.
 
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whyitso said:
Where is the right to self-determination of Russian-speaking residents of Ukraine who want to secede? Why is the integrity of the country and non-interference in internal affairs more important in this case?
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They can fucking leave. Its one step over the border. Done. Are you not tired of losing yet? Of dying? By your own hand? How dumb is these Russians?
 
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rommelrommel said:
Unfortunately that wasn’t really true in his last few months of life. He started remarking about having defeated the wrong enemy and was a proponent of rearming the majority of Germany to fight the Soviets. I think he would have readily accepted an awful lot of Nazis in his midst.
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Yes but from the perspective of those that lived under both German and Soviet occupation during that time, re-armed Nazis fighting to push out the Soviets is what everyone would have chosen.

Patton was right, whether he knew it to that level or not, that there was absolutely no taste for anything Russian among that part of the world. The first day under Soviet occupation was already worse than the previous year under German occupation for all of these people.

Since this is all sort of looking back in hindsight--we already know that Germans are malleable and the rot can be defeated. This has never been observed in the entire history of Russia. I think doing whatever it took to keep marching east and wipe out Stalin and the USSR would have always been the right decision (of course I know there was no taste for this and after watching Stalin's willingness to torch 1 million of his own people just to defend Stalingrad would probably always make this a non-starter....just saying. Patton was right.)
 
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