Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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amenx

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Putin made a serious miscalculation in that the Russian Central Bank reserves are being held mostly in the west and amount to $ 630 billion. Money that he needs to finance his war and his ability to hold power in Russia. I thought this guy was a seasoned chess player. Maybe not.

 
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AtenRa

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Cyprus? I wouldn't hold my breath.

Well it will be completely hypocritical when all western countries support and help with any means they can Ukraine defend against an attack from a foreign country and do nothing about Cyprus that is under a foreign occupation by a NATO country for more than 45 years.
 

Maxima1

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Xi be like

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kt

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In my neighborhood people drive their kids to the bus stop.
The bus stop that's on the corner.
The corner that's only a few hundred feet away from their house.
In our neighborhood, we have parents get in their cars to sit in a line that's longer than the distance between their homes to the school. No joke because I park in their neighborhood, walk across the street to the school to pickup my kid and when we leave I still see them sitting in the pickup line.
 

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I'd rather not bog down an international crisis where the lives of 40+ million people are under direct threat with petty US loathing (gas prices and car lines at school). Create your own thread for that.
 

nicalandia

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An F-15 can be an ancient POS barely flying or a modern fully upgraded aircraft.
Just like the SU-24s

Fight me....this is my wheelhouse

(Note: I'm not saying that a SU-24 is good. Just that calling ancient is not appropriate)

Hey you are putting up a better fight than those Ruskies on the ground.
 
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MrSquished

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Cyprus? I wouldn't hold my breath.

The Cypriots I know aren't holding their breath either. They do see the hypocrisy of the US & Europe on this though. In fact it is quite likely the US even gave Turkey the nod to invade Cyprus, just like it likely gave Saddam the nod to invade Kuwait, as a pretext to go to war.
 

fskimospy

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Well it will be completely hypocritical when all western countries support and help with any means they can Ukraine defend against an attack from a foreign country and do nothing about Cyprus that is under a foreign occupation by a NATO country for more than 45 years.
Meh - to some extent sure but there’s a pretty big difference in attempting to stop a current invasion vs. one that happened a half century ago. I also don’t think opposing a current one forces you to then go battle all other global illegitimate occupations.

Also clearly the US doesn’t have that big a problem with the whole ‘invading sovereign nations’ thing considering the last 20 years.
 
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Franz316

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I really don't have much sympathy for people who buy gas guzzlers that are used for nothing more than grocery getters. The most offroad terrain most of those see is a pot hole in road. They can handle a little inconvenience at the gas pump.

It also goes to show how unsustainable the sprawling suburban hellscapes seen across the country really are. When you have to drive 10+ miles just to get some pasta, that's a problem. It's extremely energy intensive (whether electric or not) and makes things overly sensitive to fuel prices. Americans already have some of the cheapest fuel in the world but you would never know that. And like most problems in this country, it disproportionately affects the poor more. It's a complex problem that involves poor zoning laws, developer & city poor planning, and much more, but that's the gist of it. It's such a fragile way to develop a country.
 

AtenRa

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Meh - to some extent sure but there’s a pretty big difference in attempting to stop a current invasion vs. one that happened a half century ago. I also don’t think opposing a current one forces you to then go battle all other global illegitimate occupations.

Also clearly the US doesn’t have that big a problem with the whole ‘invading sovereign nations’ thing considering the last 20 years.

Yea, the difference is the one attacker is Putin and Russia, the Arch enemy and the other attacker is a NATO country Turkey
Everyone hates Putin, nobody gives a f..... about Erdogan and little Cyprus.

Also to point out that an occupation of any country by a foreign enemy is against the principles and ideas of western society no matter how much time has past.
We are all supporting and helping Ukraine against a unspeakable attack by a foreign country, we should all do the same and help Cyprus, an EU member State that its 33% is occupied by a NATO country.
 

fskimospy

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Yea, the difference is the one attacker is Putin and Russia, the Arch enemy and the other attacker is a NATO country Turkey
Everyone hates Putin, nobody gives a f..... about Erdogan and little Cyprus.

Also to point out that an occupation of any country by a foreign enemy is against the principles and ideas of western society no matter how much time has past.
We are all supporting and helping Ukraine against a unspeakable attack by a foreign country, we should all do the same and help Cyprus, an EU member State that its 33% is occupied by a NATO country.
In case you didn’t notice it really isn’t against western values. The US has done it twice in the last 20 years.

Well they are to some extent, more than Russia for example, but yes we clearly subordinate them to other interests. How is this news?
 

amd6502

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All projection, all the time.

There does seem to be heavy use of [green](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEiLZ9QbL8I) screens and even
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far worse campaigns of deception aimed at the masses.

To me the evidence is overwhelming that Zelensky is surely not in Kiev, and probably not even in Ukraine. I'm not sure why the Russian focus on Kiev. Maybe to remove the last vestiges of regime arms, such as propaganda, military bureaucracies, etc.
 

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There does seem to be heavy use of [green](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEiLZ9QbL8I) screens and even
regime-propaganda.JPG
far worse campaigns of deception aimed at the masses.

To me the evidence is overwhelming that Zelensky is surely not in Kiev, and probably not even in Ukraine. I'm not sure why the Russian focus on Kiev. Maybe to remove the last vestiges of regime arms, such as propaganda, military bureaucracies, etc.

Surely you are not this stupid.
 

hal2kilo

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Well I see Sen. Inhofe just put out a message confirming his clueless status. He's pissed because the US responsibly announced cancelling a Minute Man III test scheduled for sometime next week in response to Russia's reckless announcement putting their nukes on higher status. Seems he forgot Trump did the same thing for some weird reason during the Japan Olympics after the unit was loaded and mid way to its launch point with all the people involved having to get off the unit in SD, fly home and then extend the whole nightmare operation into the next month. Don't remember Inhofe complaining about this.
Inhofe incorrectly was claiming that this will weaken our nuclear deterrent. Nope, it will have 0 effect, as it will be rescheduled.
Man needs to stay in his own lane like making sure the planet gets buried in CO2.
 

pmv

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I'd rather not bog down an international crisis where the lives of 40+ million people are under direct threat with petty US loathing (gas prices and car lines at school). Create your own thread for that.

Yeah, it does make the thread a little hard to follow.


At first glance I thought this:

If you don't buy a pickup, how are you going to buy a new fridge every weekend and commute with your washer? Good luck doing that with a normal-sized vehicle.

Was a response to this:


Some one commented, why are all Ukanians so Bad Ass

and the Ukrainian government says they do not have to pay taxes on any captured tanks

https://www.businessinsider.com/ukr...-tanks-not-personal-taxable-income-2022-3?amp


I mean, Ukraine's carbon-footprint is not going to be improved by future generations running errands in captured T55s (are T80's lower-emission?)
 

amd6502

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Surely you are not this stupid.

You actually think Zelensky is in Kiev?? His past few announcements clearly looked like green screens to me. Because of this glaring information and the complete absence of mention in news coverage on this I did a video search of green screen Zelensky and that video is strangely the only hit I got. Not sure how long it will last on youtube. While have no idea on the video bloggers channel in general, his arguments on clothing appropriate for Ukraine at this time make quite a bit of sense.

It's the sloppyness of the green screen visuals though that make me conclude with near certainty that Zelensky isn't in Kiev.

I would think a good % of people would learn how to recognize green screens by now.