Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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J30_Uwe

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Per something I saw or read on the news we buy some however that some is a very small percentage of all oil purchased, something like a few percent. I forgot the exact number.
I saw on Market Watch where the U.S. gets 3% of it's oil from Russia which is what made me question if we were still buying it from them. I thought SWIFT would have stopped our ability to do so.
 

Zorba

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The price of gas here was $3.50 when I filled up yesterday. Not thrilled about it but it is what it is. And sorry if a 1995 F-150 offends anyone but I only use it to haul off trash, get gardening or animal feed and building supplies. I only put 1K to 2K miles on it a year and it only has 93K on it. My daily drivers are a 16 Avalon or 01 Town Car. And the car line makes ANY vehicles' MPG suck and I have to go through 2 car lines a day. If there is a hell it's got a car line included in it.
Car lines exist because people don't want little johnny walking, biking, or riding the bus. And they are made worse by the people that can't be bothered to walk half a mile to pick up their kids.

My school district doesn't have a single bike rack at any school. Then parents that live a quarter mile from the school drive up there 40 minutes early and idle to get their spot. I really don't give a shit if high gas prices affect them, in fact I hope they do inspire a change of behavior.
 

K1052

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To be fair, we should stop idling our F150s in school pick up lines to help protect 7.7 billion people.

I've been going back and forth a bit between TX and CA. The difference in vehicle mix is pretty amazing. Civilization survived before everybody could drive a V8 quad cab with a 70K msrp like just to the grocery store or to pick up the kids from school.
 

Homerboy

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I've been going back and forth a bit between TX and CA. The difference in vehicle mix is pretty amazing. Civilization survived before everybody could drive a V8 quad cab with a 70K msrp like just to the grocery store or to pick up the kids from school.

I live in urban Wisconsin. Lots (nut not all) of small cars, eco cars, EVs etc etc.
If I drive 30 mins out into the "country", it's ALL full size SUVs, pickups, etc People are stupid.
 
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K1052

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Agree, it's just that they might end up needing them.

The uninvolved parts remaining of the Russian army could not take over a 7-11 in the bad part of town right now. They're going to be busy for weeks and months.
 
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pauldun170

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Car lines exist because people don't want little johnny walking, biking, or riding the bus. And they are made worse by the people that can't be bothered to walk half a mile to pick up their kids.

My school district doesn't have a single bike rack at any school. Then parents that live a quarter mile from the school drive up there 40 minutes early and idle to get their spot. I really don't give a shit if high gas prices affect them, in fact I hope they do inspire a change of behavior.
In my neighborhood people drive their kids to the bus stop.
The bus stop that's on the corner.
The corner that's only a few hundred feet away from their house.
 

Dave_5k

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So is the U.S. still buying oil from Russia at this point? I sincerely hope not even if it does cost a little more at the pump.
In December, the US imported ~12.5 million barrels of Russian oil and related oil products (for the month). While tiny % of total, that's still north of $1 billion/month... which is considerably more than the aid we're sending Ukraine

As another poster noted, none of the firms in the US are still buying it, so that's pretty much down to 0 now (Russian oil was quoted at more than $10/bbl below market, and still couldn't find any buyers)
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Car lines exist because people don't want little johnny walking, biking, or riding the bus. And they are made worse by the people that can't be bothered to walk half a mile to pick up their kids.

My kids' schools are 12 miles from home and both are located on my way home from the hospital. There is a lot of "education" that goes on on the buses I'd rather not have my kids experience. Some of those kids career paths will be behind bars once they graduate. Their parents just aren't involved. I don't know their circumstances why it is that way. Maybe they have to work two jobs to make ends meet and can't be involved. Speaking of which it's almost 3 so I need to go to hell now, twice.
 
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Pens1566

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The uninvolved parts remaining of the Russian army could not take over a 7-11 in the bad part of town right now. They're going to be busy for weeks and months.

Fair point.

Although I'm wondering how much Putin held back in the west given that a lot of what's in Ukraine now came from the east.
 
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I live in urban Wisconsin. Lots (nut not all) of small cars, eco cars, EVs etc etc.
If I drive 30 mins out into the "country", it's ALL full size SUVs, pickups, etc People are stupid.
If you don't buy a pickup, how are you going to buy a new fridge every weekend and commute with your washer? Good luck doing that with a normal-sized vehicle.
 

pauldun170

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Are you really comparing a F-15 Eagle with a 100-0 Kill ratio against an outdated clunker?

Oh you mean the kill record pf the F-15A F-15C or F-15E/SA
Which one?
They are different aircraft with different capabilities.
One is a relic that no longer exists. It had shit engines, a finicky avionics system and all sorts of usses
One is a Dinosaurs that the airforce can barely keep in the air
The other one is effectively a bomber that can defend itself and the version the US uses is a bit dated.

You have any idea what upgrades have been done to that "outdated clunker"?
You understand that "upgrades and generations" matter right?
You wanna compare a SU-24M2 with an F-15C which is an elderly relic?
Perhaps you mean the attack version of the F-15, the E model but which one?
The old ones in use by the US airforce or the update F-15SA used by the Saudis.

An F-15 can be an ancient POS barely flying or a modern fully upgraded aircraft.
Just like the SU-24s

Fight me....this is my wheelhouse

(Note: I'm not saying that a SU-24 is good. Just that calling ancient is not appropriate)
 
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Jaskalas

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I hope when it stops and they finally start rolling troops in, the citizens are absolutely fucking bristling.

This violence will spiral throughout Russia and might still be reverberating a hundred years from now.

44 30 million Ukrainians are going to want Russian blood after this is over. One way or another. Took 20 years before Afghanistan bit someone. Admittedly that became us on September 11th, but decades from now there will be equal acts of terror raining down for what Putin has done in 2022. Other separatist / conflict prone regions are likely to join the bonfire.

The cycle of violence begins anew.
 

Jaskalas

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I was thinking a bit about drones-the actual operators of these drones could be based just about anywhere, right? And what country probably has the most, and the most experienced drone operators? Kind of a reverse Vietnam situation, where many/most of the North Vietnamese jets and anti-aircraft defenses were operated by Russian "advisors."

There you go. That's the ticket I've been speaking in favor of.

Also, some of those supplies are needed to assault Crimea and blow out every bridge to and from, on both sides.
 

Zorba

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My kids' schools are 12 miles from home and both are located on my way home from the hospital. There is a lot of "education" that goes on on the buses I'd rather not have my kids experience. Some of those kids career paths will be behind bars once they graduate. Their parents just aren't involved. I don't know their circumstances why it is that way. Maybe they have to work two jobs to make ends meet and can't be involved. Speaking of which it's almost 3 so I need to go to hell now, twice.
Thanks for being my point in case. "Kids are too fragile for the bus so I need gas to be less than $2/gal"

I also wish rural people would figure out they aren't the majority. My daughter's school has 1000 kids at it, the furthest lives 3 miles away, the vast majority live within half a mile. And our school boundary is on the edge of the Suburbs/rural cross over, not inner city.
 

AtenRa

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So after all this Russian invasion ends , I sure hope all Westerners will focus on the other European country that was invaded and still is occupied by a NATO country.
You know which country im talking about.
 

fskimospy

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So after all this Russian invasion ends , I sure hope all Westerners will focus on the other European country that was invaded and still is occupied by a NATO country.
You know which country im talking about.
Cyprus? I wouldn't hold my breath.
 

brycejones

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So after all this Russian invasion ends , I sure hope all Westerners will focus on the other European country that was invaded and still is occupied by a NATO country.
You know which country im talking about.
I thought the British soccer fans finally went back to England? They didn't?