Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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kage69

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They brought him Moar Table. Moooarrrr.

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He's all 'Yeah you cyka just try to shoot me from way over there'

Haha. Ok. Just looked rrrreally closely and realize now we've been duped. Top left --- That's Bernie fucking Sanders. I'm dying right now
 

Roger Wilco

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What happens when the U.S. confirms war crimes are occurring? Would that necessitate action beyond what’s already been done?
 

MrSquished

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Hrmmm, seems pretty low, but probably a great way to get some GRU guys to pay you a visit.


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Interesting piece on This American Life on NPR that replayed on Sunday about Putin's rise to power and the 'terrorist' attacks on various apartment buildings that helped launch him and solidify him into power.
 

Pens1566

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What happens when the U.S. confirms war crimes are occurring? Would that necessitate action beyond what’s already been done?

Not really up to the US to determine. We're not even participating in ICC anymore.

I'd expect any real war crimes issues to resolve after the conflict is over. Or, maybe once the accused is in custody. Last one I recall was Milosevic. Either way, won't be any time soon.

Only immediate impact would be PR/talking point against whoever was alleged. We've already seen it with the thermobaric weapons and cluster munitions being used in civilian areas. Although there is some gray area w.r.t. those instances.
 

Muse

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Some "Reports" seem dubious. I try to not get too optimistic.
Me thinks of comment by network TV commentator I heard a week ago, "It's worth repeating often-cited observation that 'the first casualty of war is Truth.'" Uh, so it's best to keep your BS-Detector hat on.
 

hal2kilo

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I don't mean I find it weird they would be surrendering, but that it's weird I feel like I'm seeing more reports of it. Maybe something more happening, that's all.
Heck, not sure which network at this point, but someone reported that the Russians were poking holes in their own gas tanks.
 

Ajay

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I can't believe they are in that small of a package. I thought this must be wrong, but I googled it.
Not sure what you mean. These don't fire the thermobaric warhead that struck Kharkiv. That was likely an SS-26 launched intermediate range missile with a large 700kg warhead. Much, much larger than the missiles used in a TOS-1 and far more accurate.
 

hal2kilo

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What I have been most surprised with is the complete lack of media / social media capturing the relief / resupply efforts. There are multiple military cargo planes that have been making trips to near Polish border, not seen even one photo leak of how or what they’re delivering - or presumable handoff to Ukraine drivers.

Even if hid/blurred the details, would have thought someone would insist on a PR shot. Or maybe I’m just overly optimistic that those are supplies for Ukraine.

Edit: heck, there’s 2 US C17’s in transit back from the Poland/Ukraine border back to Western Europe this minute, and a third arriving just now into Europe direct from the US. And a 4th RAF C17 heading in now to the border. And that’s just the highly visible US/UK movements.
Maybe there is a good reason for it to not be made public. Interception? Loose lips sink ships, still applies.
 

rommelrommel

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Or it could be the fact that the Orangeman complained very publicly about member nations of NATO not meeting financial levels and/or being very dependent on Russian energy and was ridiculed for it? I'm sure it's your stupid version.

Will you fuck off if we all acknowledge Trump was right to hold the same opinions as Obama on that topic?
 
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rommelrommel

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Maybe there is a good reason for it to not be made public. Interception? Loose lips sink ships, still applies.

Well, there are probably a lot of generals and politicians just wishing that Russia would forcibly intercept a weapons shipment.