Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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K1052

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What I have been most surprised with is the complete lack of media / social media capturing the relief / resupply efforts. There are multiple military cargo planes that have been making trips to near Polish border, not seen even one photo leak of how or what they’re delivering - or presumable handoff to Ukraine drivers.

Even if hid/blurred the details, would have thought someone would insist on a PR shot. Or maybe I’m just overly optimistic that those are supplies for Ukraine.

No, I want it to be a surprise for the Russians to finally move on Kyiv and discover there is an American made M72 under every wall and shrub in the place.

I've seen some scattered reports of resupply but of course they are mostly keeping it hush.
 
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Number1

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When you abandon a tank in the midle of a battle, is there a quick way to disable the onboard systems, short of blowing it up? Any tankers in here?
 

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The US just sold leases good for about 7GW of offshore wind for over $4B dollars. The rush into renewables is real and picking up speed.



Yes, this is possible aren there are not really any levers to do anything about it short term. Republicans are railing against energy costs but mute when it comes to how to prevent it, because there really are no solid options. They can't MAKE companies drill for oil and gas if they don't want to. Abbott just had an event today where he reveled about high energy costs as its profitable for O&G.

In the end the only way to avoid what's going on is to decouple from fossil fuels which are subject to wild price swings as commodities. I presume Biden is going to position his infra bill in this way.

Yup, add that to the three other huge benefits of renewables, 1. climate change. 2. unhealthy air pollution, 3. ending dependence on fossil fuels from troubled regions and/or rogue regimes, and 4. freeing us from price volatility.

Renewables are such a no brainer even without climate change. Which is why republicans are morons for not supporting it.
 

nicalandia

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Roughly 30 seconds.
Where are you getting that number from? it's about 17 seconds give or take.

with 1,150 rounds in the can, and a fire rate of 66 rounds per second, you’re looking at 17.42 seconds and change
 
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On M1 Abrams... I can't vouch for the Lemons those sorry looking Rusky use

I was a 'Fire Control Repairman' for the M1A1's and Bradley's in the early to mid 90's. The Russian equipment I'm seeing in the pics and vids looks ancient compared to the stuff we worked on. An M60 looks modern in comparison.
 
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I was a 'Fire Control Repairman' for the M1A1's and Bradley's in the early to mid 90's. The Russian equipment I'm seeing in the pics and vids looks ancient compared to the stuff we worked on. An M60 looks modern in comparison.
USA Weapon Technology is 30 years ahead of anything else in the world. The M1 Abrams from the late 1980s have higher tech on them than what the Russians are using today on Ukraine. The YF-22 Raptor Technology demonstrator from the late 80's was a True 5th Generation Aircraft.. 30 Years later nothing comes close to it. NOTHING..

This is the YF-23 Black Widow II, it's Radar and Turbine Tech is still Unmatched today by any other country. Truly Alien's tech for many

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woolfe9998

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Where are you getting that number from? it's about 17 seconds give or take.

with 1,150 rounds in the can, and a fire rate of 66 rounds per second, you’re looking at 17.42 seconds and change

Yup, I read an article yesterday that says 18 seconds, so close enough.

Damn it fires 66 30 mm high explosive shells in one second. That is one nasty weapon.
 

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Just for you (oh and the conservative war hawks as well):
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you have my javelin
 

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YF-23 never went into production. But I'd love to see some Rafales or Typhoons doing some field testing on their Meteor long range missiles.
 
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USA Weapon Technology is 30 years ahead of anything else in the world. The M1 Abrams from the late 1980s have higher tech on them than what the Russians are using today on Ukraine. The YF-22 Raptor Technology demonstrator from the late 80's was a True 5th Generation Aircraft.. 30 Years later nothing comes close to it. NOTHING..

This is the YF-23 Black Widow II, it's Radar and Turbine Tech is still Unmatched today by any other country. Truly Alien's tech for many

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...and thats the LOSER of the competition
...that was designed in the 1980's
...and the F-22, the winner of that competition is now borderline antiquated due to certain aspects of it's architecture.
...and the F-22's replacement has already flown.
 

zinfamous

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Ha! That's fantastic.

I don't know. That reads to me like Putin's strategy was to send a bunch of meat out there (Russian meat), and push them forward and use them as targets for his own bombardment.

They keep moving forward and forward, as officers back away further, start dishing out live ammo, take all communication, give them analog terds, and these 3 month conscripts are just marching down a road, assuming it's part of training...and its suddenly they are in a war that they didn't know they were doing

Its like some sick HungerGames/Millennial death game fan fiction fare, doesn't it? It's literally happening right now. I mean, they were even sent out with few rations. ...of course this is training, right?! This is a lesson!

Can you imagine being those officers...just pushing those dudes out further and further across the border, taking their comms and backing away until they are safely removed from liability.

I'm starting to believe those Ukranian reported numbers of RU deaths on the first 2 days: those guys were literally sent out--not in the live field exercises they thought they were doing--but an actual invasion of a nation, and they didn't know they were the invaders
 
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Lol

...and thats the LOSER of the competition
...that was designed in the 1980's
...and the F-22, the winner of that competition is now borderline antiquated due to certain aspects of it's architecture.
...and the F-22's replacement has already flown.
Outside of the USA, no other country can match the 5th gen capabilities of the YF-23 Which prooves my point of the rest of the world being 30+ years behind. Can anyone please name a foreing war plane with smaller radar cross section, Super Cruise and better AESA Radar? A true 5th Gen. All the while the rest of the World keeps adding ++ to their 4th Gen Fighters
 

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I don't know. That reads to me like Putin's strategy was to send a bunch of meat out there (Russian meat), and push them forward and use them as targets for his own bombardment.

They keep moving forward and forward, as officers back away further, start dishing out live ammo, take all communication, give them analog terds, and these 3 month conscripts are just marching down a road, assuming it's part of training...and its suddenly they are in a war that they didn't know they were doing

Its like some sick HungerGames/Millennial death game fan fiction fare, doesn't it? It's literally happening right now. I mean, they were even sent out with few rations. ...of course this is training, right?! This is a lesson!

Can you imagine being those officers...just pushing those dudes out further and further across the border, taking their comms and backing away until they are safely removed from liability.

I'm starting to believe those Ukranian reported numbers of RU deaths on the first 2 days: those guys were literally sent out--not in the live field exercises they thought they were doing--but an actual invasion of a nation, and they didn't know they were the invaders
That's a rather dark alternative to this foray. Send a pile of untrained conscripts with GPS trackers on them, then mortar/missile those positions when they start calling for help.
 
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I don't know. That reads to me like Putin's strategy was to send a bunch of meat out there (Russian meat), and push them forward and use them as targets for his own bombardment.

They keep moving forward and forward, as officers back away further, start dishing out live ammo, take all communication, give them analog terds, and these 3 month conscripts are just marching down a road, assuming it's part of training...and its suddenly they are in a war that they didn't know they were doing

Its like some sick HungerGames/Millennial death game fan fiction fare, doesn't it? It's literally happening right now. I mean, they were even sent out with few rations. ...of course this is training, right?! This is a lesson!

Can you imagine being those officers...just pushing those dudes out further and further across the border, taking their comms and backing away until they are safely removed from liability.

I'm starting to believe those Ukranian reported numbers of RU deaths on the first 2 days: those guys were literally sent out--not in the live field exercises they thought they were doing--but an actual invasion of a nation, and they didn't know they were the invaders

Fun thought however I don’t agree.
As I heard someone say on the news “Dictators make bad decisions because there is no ready room or advisors to say”
“This is a bad idea”
“We are not prepared to do that”
“We don’t have the ammo/food/blankets/fuel/transport or whatever to do that”
Problem with all advisors to someone like Putin is:
A) They are all Yes Men because nobody wants to say No to Putin
B) Putin is under no obligation to listen or even have advisors
C) In a Dictators mind his judgement is always right and nobody else can be trusted
 

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I though Russia said they had cool new hypersonic missiles that nobody on the planet could intercept. Guess that was a lie.
 

feralkid

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Fun thought however I don’t agree.
As I heard someone say on the news “Dictators make bad decisions because there is no ready room or advisors to say”
“This is a bad idea”
“We are not prepared to do that”
“We don’t have the ammo/food/blankets/fuel/transport or whatever to do that”
Problem with all advisors to someone like Putin is:
A) They are all Yes Men because nobody wants to say No to Putin
B) Putin is under no obligation to listen or even have advisors
C) In a Dictators mind his judgement is always right and nobody else can be trusted


45 to a T
 

JEDI

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I think Putin has gone senile.

1) He banked $600B for the Ukraine war to withstand the economic sanctions.
But the world has frozen 1/2 of that amount.
He can't access it.
How could he not have known this?
Why didnt he move the $ that was vulnerable to someplace where the world can't touch it b4 starting the war?

2) So now Russia's econ is fvcked for years to come if not a decade(s).
What if Putin launches nukes at a non-Nato country (ie: Ukraine)? He has nothing else to lose now.
 
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