The best, I guess, but doesn't seem that likely. I struggle to see _any_ possible upside or good outcome, for anyone, really.
Firstly, it seems like things are not going to plan for the Russians. That's a good thing, but it seems like it increases the chances they will resort to brute force and hence kill large numbers of civilians. Which will in turn create more pressure on "the West" to "do something". Which in turn increases the risk of some accidental escalation.
Then, even in the best-possible scenario, where it leads to Putin being overthrown by his own people (whether a 'palace coup' or a popular revolt), it still seems quite possible what comes after will be even worse. Either a failed state or another despot. That seems to be the pattern with Russia. Yet another humiliating defeat probably won't improve the politics of that country. Somehow it needs to be 'bought in' from the cold, and made 'normal'.
dank69
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Once again: never interrupt your enemy when he is making a fool of himself.
Grey_Beard
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It seems the desperation is setting in for the Russian forces.
“"Russia is firing on humanitarian corridors, in spite of everything, ignoring our requests to allow for the evacuation of women, children, orphans, and people with limited mobility. As a result, there are wounded civilians," Deputy Prime Minister – Minister for Reintegration of the Temporarily Occupied Territories of Ukraine Iryna Vereshchuk said, the Ministry’s press service informs.”
www.ukrinform.net
“"Russia is firing on humanitarian corridors, in spite of everything, ignoring our requests to allow for the evacuation of women, children, orphans, and people with limited mobility. As a result, there are wounded civilians," Deputy Prime Minister – Minister for Reintegration of the Temporarily Occupied Territories of Ukraine Iryna Vereshchuk said, the Ministry’s press service informs.”
Russia fires on women and children evacuating through humanitarian corridors â Vereshchuk
The wounded were reported as the Russian aggressor has been firing on women and children who evacuate through humanitarian corridors. â Ukrinform.
Grey_Beard
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Good review of how the Ukrainians are destroying Russian armor.
www.dailymail.co.uk
Ukraine's Air Force claims successful drone strikes against Russia
The Ukrainian military published several videos this weekend that it claims shows a Turkish armed drone carrying out strikes against Russian forces in the south of the country.
biostud
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These small ones
M72 Enhanced Capacity - Nammo | Nammo
450 mm verson
Probably not the most useful ATM, but if they move to close combat and arm non trained combatants and want to hold on to Ukraine with armed forces, they sure beat Molotovs.
Not sure how accurate these reports are, but supposedly volunteers are entering the country to help/fight.
IronWing
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I find myself checking the facebook page of my favorite Ukrainian musicians to see if they are still alive.
Zorba
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We have RC-135s in theater, I'm sure they are capturing a lot of that and getting back to Ukraine too. But even better if the local troops can get it in real time.
Fanatical Meat
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Hmm interesting is Putin emulating Nixon or has he really been damaged by his fear of germs and COVID?
dank69
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Swiss going financial scorched earth on Vlad.
Bitek
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Then I would hope Western Intel agencies would move to liquidate these mercs and company leadership like any other terrorist organization.
They should hold the line on that too. No 'negotiating' to go back to how things were two weeks ago. Just fuck off, do not pass go, do not collect 200 rubles.
There are a few in this thread. Come on Ukraine is asking for you.
Switzerland! has joined in the scrum with sanctions as well. The closed airspace is a bit of a joke, as Russia was down to flying from Switzerland... to Switzerland, with all surrounding airspace closed.
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