Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Time delays in reporting accounting for the different current status? Maybe it floated for a while, but no longer is and reporting hasn't caught up?

 

[RnR_au]

The Moskva is Schrodinger's ship... is it sunk, or is it afloat?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

nm

 

[Roger Wilco]

Pentagon says she’s moving under her own power.

"We assess that the ship is able to make its own way, and it is doing that; it's heading more towards, now, we think the east. We think it's probably going to be putting in at Sevastapol for repairs," he added. Pentagon Press Secretary

 

[Pens1566]

Pentagon says she’s moving under her own power.

"We assess that the ship is able to make its own way, and it is doing that; it's heading more towards, now, we think the east. We think it's probably going to be putting in at Sevastapol for repairs," he added. Pentagon Press Secretary

Drone strikes on Sevastopol it is then ...

 

[RnR_au]

Someone was quick on the wiki for a bit...

 

[fskimospy]

Pentagon says she’s moving under her own power.

"We assess that the ship is able to make its own way, and it is doing that; it's heading more towards, now, we think the east. We think it's probably going to be putting in at Sevastapol for repairs," he added. Pentagon Press Secretary

This is baffling to me - how would you have a fire and explosion bad enough that you had to abandon ship, but still have the ship be seaworthy and able to sail under its own power? If this is true it sounds like more total incompetence in the Russian armed forces.

 

[Pens1566]

This is baffling to me - how would you have a fire and explosion bad enough that you had to abandon ship, but still have the ship be seaworthy and able to sail under its own power? If this is true it sounds like more total incompetence in the Russian armed forces.

Gee, haven't seen any of that lately ...

 

[kage69]

Any which way they look at it, that ship will not be a factor and will be in drydock for at least a year, with sanctions it will be even longer i suspect

I bet that will not happen. No drydock, no repairs; she's done. They simply do not have the means, and they probably won't even be able to cannibalize the hull for parts to keep the other two Slavas running.

The fourth Slava has been sitting around unable to be finished for decades, and the class itself has already been replaced by something else they can't afford, the Lider class missile destroyers. At this point all Russia can try to save is a little face.

 

[ElFenix]

stolen from elsewhere

 

[K1052]

We’ll get some imagery in the next day or so to see what’s what. Regardless that ship is out of the fight either way.

 

[Roger Wilco]

Russian Air Force very busy today. Lots of cargo planes in the air.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1514606512668176400

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

This is baffling to me - how would you have a fire and explosion bad enough that you had to abandon ship, but still have the ship be seaworthy and able to sail under its own power?

Damage may have been all on deck, or just below and not affected the engine or propulsion systems.

The USS Hornet was badly damaged but still able to sail and tried to get to safe waters before being hit again.

 

[SMOGZINN]

I am starting to think everything this game taught me over the decades is incorrect

Modern Naval Battles

Modern Naval Battles is a novel card game for two to six players, based on present day sea power. The games is played in "rounds," with players taking turns to maneuver the ships in their fleets, attack opponent’s ships, and defend their own fleet against enemy attack. At the end of each round...

boardgamegeek.com

I have the original Naval War based on WWII naval battles, and it is one of my all time favorite beer and pretzels game.

 

[Roger Wilco]

pics of ship plz?

“We know she suffered an explosion,” Pentagon spox John Kirby said of the Moskva on MSNBC. “It looks like — from the images that we have been able to look at — it looks like it was a pretty sizable explosion, too. We don’t know what caused that explosion.”

https://twitter.com/x/status/1514611232644378636

 

[fskimospy]

Damage may have been all on deck, or just below and not affected the engine or propulsion systems.

The USS Hornet was badly damaged but still able to sail and tried to get to safe waters before being hit again.

That's not correct - Hornet never restored propulsion and was in the process of being towed when it was hit again. More important to my point though, Hornet's crew was still on board and working on repairs and damage control up until the point of the fatal hit, at which point they abandoned ship and she was sunk.

My confusion here is the incongruity between abandoning ship and a ship that can still sail under its own power. You only abandon ship once all hope is lost, or at least that's what competent crews do.

 

[Roger Wilco]

With the Black Sea closed by Turkey, it's not like Russia can reinforce their fleet, correct?

 

[trenchfoot]

So if correctly interpreted, the Tass propaganda piece should be read as "The two remaining crew members consisting of the fleet commander and his valet were fully evacuated".

 

[Roger Wilco]

U.S. says she’s still on fire.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1514622612856578051

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Awwwwww, poor widdle Putty .... can't take your own medicine?


Live Updates | Russia accuses Ukraine of border airstrikes

By The Associated Pressan hour ago

Russian authorities have accused Ukrainian forces of launching air strikes on the Russian region of Bryansk which borders with Ukraine, the latest in a series of allegations of cross-border attacks by Kyiv on Russian territory.

 

[Homerboy]

New official Ukrainian postage stamp
Snake Island lives on!

https://mezha.media/en/2022/04/12/ukrposhta-issues-russian-warship-go-postage-stamps/amp/

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

In a civilized world, this picture would end her bid ....

How France’s presidential election could impact Ukraine war

2 hours ago

PARIS (AP) — The capital of France may be thousands of miles away from the battlefields of eastern Ukraine, but what happens in French voting stations this month could have repercussions there.

 

[sandorski]

Awwwwww, poor widdle Putty .... can't take your own medicine?


Live Updates | Russia accuses Ukraine of border airstrikes
By The Associated Pressan hour ago
Russian authorities have accused Ukrainian forces of launching air strikes on the Russian region of Bryansk which borders with Ukraine, the latest in a series of allegations of cross-border attacks by Kyiv on Russian territory.

Why do they think that any place within Russia isn't a potential target for Ukraine?

 

[K1052]

Afloat but burning. Other Russian navy assets have moved farther out to sea…for some reason lol.

 

[KMFJD]

I bet that will not happen. No drydock, no repairs; she's done. They simply do not have the means, and they probably won't even be able to cannibalize the hull for parts to keep the other two Slavas running.

The fourth Slava has been sitting around unable to be finished for decades, and the class itself has already been replaced by something else they can't afford, the Lider class missile destroyers. At this point all Russia can try to save is a little face.

You know where that 4th Slava was being built and is currently rusting? Ukraine (Mykolaiv)