Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

[pcgeek11]

You seem to know an awful lot about Biden administration performance. In what fashion was Biden administration not performing?

Border was wide open, Joe only had one oar in the water.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Neither of which is true.

It is happening gradually. You can be in denial now because you either don't see the pieces falling in place or you are deliberately ignoring what's happening to the US political landscape.

 

[nakedfrog]

Border was wide open, Joe only had one oar in the water.

This is factually untrue.

Fact check: Did Biden and Democrats 'dismantle' border security?

Nevada's Republican candidate for Senate, Adam Laxalt, launched a campaign ad saying President Biden and Democrats "have dismantled border security." PolitiFact checks his claim.

www.wral.com

It is sheer delusion to say the Biden admin was more traitorous than the Trump admin. Absolutely untethered from observable reality. Amazing how you can pretend Herr Trump is any more mentally fit than Biden.

 

[nakedfrog]

It is happening gradually. You can be in denial now because you either don't see the pieces falling in place or you are deliberately ignoring what's happening to the US political landscape.

Both, probably!

 

[trenchfoot]

If a Democrat wins the presidency in '28, I will immediately send him my condolences for the utter mess that Dem president will have to clean up irt the damage Trump has incurred on Ukraine, NATO and our other allies. And that also includes identifying and undoing all of the obvious and deeply hidden unconstitutional unlawful fuckery Trump had 4 years to perpetrate. As well, the weavings that the Federalist Society and the Heritage Foundation has sewn into the infrastructure of the gov't, especially so in our intelligence agencies and anything to do with regulating these oligarchic societies during Trump's term will need to be seriously undertaken. An IMF mission for sure, but it all needs to be done in order to return democracy to the people of the nation.

If Ukraine as an independent and free democracy still stands after Trump's term expires, of which he will probably have to be forcibly removed from office, the Dem who may take his place will have a veritable IMF mission toward reestablishing the trust issues that Trump created due to his humiliating deference to Putin's wishes.

 

[Pens1566]

Border was wide open, Joe only had one oar in the water.

Constant reminder that the border has never been wide open.

 

[Indus]

Both, probably!

Sadly that's also you.

At some point it takes common sense but we keep on having our head up our asses and trying to talk reason to them.

Only solution is to get rid of all 80 mil of them.. deportation or otherwise!

The longer you keep escaping common sense.. the longer this will keep happening:

 

[nakedfrog]

Sadly that's also you.

At some point it takes common sense but we keep on having our head up our asses and trying to talk reason to them.

Only solution is to get rid of all 80 mil of them.. deportation or otherwise!

The longer you keep escaping common sense.. the longer this will keep happening:

Look, how many people are YOU willing to murder PERSONALLY to achieve your goal of killing 80 million people?
Have you ever actually thought about what the logistics of fucking KILLING 80 MILLION people looks like?

 

[Indus]

Look, how many people are YOU willing to murder PERSONALLY to achieve your goal of killing 80 million people?
Have you ever actually thought about what the logistics of fucking KILLING 80 MILLION people looks like?

Start with people at fox/ oan/ newsmax/ MAGA politicians/ influencers and their donors..and the rest won't follow them blindly anymore.

So you can just deal with 80,000 or so and then the rest can be sent to Russia and if they choose to invade ukraine then we can kill them..

Media won't even cover mass shootings anymore.. it's a non event. They're not gonna miss MAGA that much.

 

[fskimospy]

I think that the Biden Administration was more traitorous than Trump. Biden was not performing nor was he capable as President and we don't know who was.

More traitorous than literally attempting to overthrow the government?

 

[fskimospy]

Border was wide open, Joe only had one oar in the water.

You claimed this before and when asked for evidence to support it you provided the number of encounters border patrol had, and those encounters are literally them detaining people or stopping them while crossing the border.

So it was very strong evidence the border was not open, hence all the arrests.

 

[fskimospy]

If a Democrat wins the presidency in '28, I will immediately send him my condolences for the utter mess that Dem president will have to clean up irt the damage Trump has incurred on Ukraine, NATO and our other allies. And that also includes identifying and undoing all of the obvious and deeply hidden unconstitutional unlawful fuckery Trump had 4 years to perpetrate. As well, the weavings that the Federalist Society and the Heritage Foundation has sewn into the infrastructure of the gov't, especially so in our intelligence agencies and anything to do with regulating these oligarchic societies during Trump's term will need to be seriously undertaken. An IMF mission for sure, but it all needs to be done in order to return democracy to the people of the nation.

If Ukraine as an independent and free democracy still stands after Trump's term expires, of which he will probably have to be forcibly removed from office, the Dem who may take his place will have a veritable IMF mission toward reestablishing the trust issues that Trump created due to his humiliating deference to Putin's wishes.

I think people really underestimate just how much cleanup there will be. A new constitutional order will have to be made and that will start with SCOTUS as without cleaning that place up nothing else you do matters as they will just invalidate it.

 

[Indus]

I think people really underestimate just how much cleanup there will be. A new constitutional order will have to be made and that will start with SCOTUS as without cleaning that place up nothing else you do matters as they will just invalidate it.

^ this. Have to be willing to accept this and then actually do it.

Might makes right since laws/ constitutions don't matter to people like them.

People still can't their head around it.. and just assume we can go back to way things were.. but nope.

 

[RnR_au]

Ukraine has impacted 13% of Russian oil refinery capacity in the last few weeks. They have also successfully targeted rail junctions inside Russia. I think Ukraine is just beginning in their economic and logistics squeeze.

If this continues, I doubt the war will last much longer than 6 months. Perhaps the only thing that can drag it out is Trump screaming at Zelenskyy to stop hitting economic facilities otherwise the flow of patriot missiles from the usa will stop.

 

[Pens1566]

You claimed this before and when asked for evidence to support it you provided the number of encounters border patrol had, and those encounters are literally them detaining people or stopping them while crossing the border.

So it was very strong evidence the border was not open, hence all the arrests.

They all just keep repeating it no matter what you tell them that refutes it.

Fact is, there are roughly 2.5M+ encounters at the border(s) every damn day.

 

[NWRMidnight]

They all just keep repeating it no matter what you tell them that refutes it.

Fact is, there are roughly 2.5M+ encounters at the border(s) every damn day.

I agree with your point, but what exactly are you counting as an encounter to get 2.5M+ PER DAY? I mean I have tried to find something remotely close, but all I find is about 950 boarder encounters per day NATION WIDE. What am I missing here that adds 2.45+M to that number?

 

[Paratus]

Border was wide open, Joe only had one oar in the water.

https://imgur.com/qVaWusk

 

[Pens1566]

I agree with your point, but what exactly are you counting as an encounter to get 2.5M+ PER DAY? I mean I have tried to find something remotely close, but all I find is about 950 boarder encounters per day NATION WIDE. What am I missing here that adds 2.45+M to that number?

It's the # of individuals that DHS collects various biometrics for on a daily basis. Basically anyone that crosses a border/entry point. Not just the ones that get "caught".

Point being, that's a lot of work for an open border ...

 

[Brovane]

I thought that this was a interesting take on things.

Putin is trapped by Trump's misunderstandings

Trump a lot of times hears what he wants to hear. Like the thing about NATO troops in Ukraine to provide security with US support. Trump heard that Putin was ok with that but obviously Putin is not ok with that. Western Troops in Eastern Europe is one of the root causes of the Ukrainian war according to Putin. Now we have Trump who keeps talking about security guarantees. The Putin and Zelensky meeting, Putin doesn't want to meet with Zelensky because it would give him legitimacy. Yet Trump keeps talking about it.

 

[NWRMidnight]

It's the # of individuals that DHS collects various biometrics for on a daily basis. Basically anyone that crosses a border/entry point. Not just the ones that get "caught".

Point being, that's a lot of work for an open border ...

So you are not talking about actual encounters. Trying to count surveillance data (collecting biometric data) as encounters, which has to be heavily automated to hit 2.5M+ a day, is really manipulation of the facts. In a sense, it's like claiming walmart's doors are not open to everybody, because they have security cameras all over the place, collecting video footage (surveillance data), which would be false.

I agree, our boarders are not, and never have been open. But it's not a very good look, using what appears as manipulation (not necessarily on purpose), as evidence to support your position. It makes it appear you are lying, destroying your argument/position, which does nothing but make it appear that the other side is right. Specially when surveillance collection, is not an indication of the boarder being open or closed. We could let every single person into the country, which means the conservatives/MAGA crowd would be right (they aren't), and still have them under surveillance.

 

[RnR_au]

The Putin and Zelensky meeting, Putin doesn't want to meet with Zelensky because it would give him legitimacy. Yet Trump keeps talking about it.

Trump seems to have given Putin another 2 weeks reprieve;

The Kremlin has played down talk of an imminent summit between Russian President Vladimir Putin and Ukraine's Volodymyr Zelensky, as Donald Trump renewed his call for the two leaders to meet to discuss ending the war in Ukraine.
...
"We're going to find out about President Putin in the next couple of weeks," [Trump] said on Tuesday. "It's possible that he doesn't want to make a deal."

From https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn92e52rpjxo

Always 2 weeks... TACO - Take Another Couple Of weeks....