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Like I said...

Heh, no, if he was a dictator you'd probably be helping him.

Trump and Putin don't get to decide when Ukraine holds elections. And because of that, Zelenskyy is in more danger now than ever before. I don't believe Trump is human enough to say No when Putin asks for intel so they can murder Ukraine's president. Or he'll just turn a blind eye to the espionage that facilitates an assassination. Scary shit ahead.
 
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Brainonska511 said:
I have a hard time believing that Trump could ever be held back with blackmail. Look at all the shit that is known publicly and he just shrugs it off and denies it, and his lapdogs rush out to lick up the lies.

I think Trump just loves authoritarians. He likes the aesthetic of doing what he wants, and not having to work with other stakeholders and power centers.
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I'm pretty sure Trump doesn't have it in him to actually work with others for shared common goals. He's too much of a self-centered greed driven narcissist to put other's concerns in his list of to-do's. If he does, it's only because it will give him everything he wants in the end. For him to operate the way he likes, he needs to be the boss of everyone because he doesn't have the people skills nor the intellect to deal with the complexities of human nature that a natural born leader can cope with. It's why he needs to be a dictator to rule over his domain and having a clever Elon the Terminator to go after his enemies while disclaiming his Terminator's word and deed.

Just imagine Trump being a General or Admiral or even right down to a squad leader directing his/her troops or sailors in a battle where his own life is at grave risk? First thing he'd do is surround himself with his troops and ships and have them all sacrifice their lives for him to survive. He really is that predictable.
 
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MrSquished said:
arms sales to Ukraine are potentially on pause
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About that...
The United States is now an enemy of NATO. Planning to stop just short of combat troops to kill Europeans. For now...

https://www.economist.com/europe/2025/02/19/team-trump-wants-to-get-rid-of-volodymyr-zelensky
Trump wants to remove Zelensky, according to The Economist. The publication states that Trump sees Zelensky as an obstacle and may cut military aid, intel access, and Starlink, while lifting sanctions on Russia.​

https://twitter.com/x/status/1892507122723590415
 
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Zelenskyy isn't willing to make a deal with Trump that includes Putin keeping Ukrainian territory in his possession. And that's just for starters. Trump wants to be known as a world renown peacemaker and peacekeeper while he's making sure that Putin is going to give him something big out of the deal.

So again I ask, Is this what Trump's supporters wanted when they voted for him? Nah, I'm sure most of them never heard of Ukraine or if they did they couldn't point to it on a map nor would they even care. Ignorance is bliss. They don't even know that the aid we're giving Ukraine is giving our own people good paying jobs that's practically Elon-proof while making our country better prepared to defend itself and it's interests worldwide.

Instead, they're being pumped up with lies on a daily/hourly basis to keep them riled up and in Trump's never never land where Ukraine is now the enemy because it's Trump's enemy and NATO is now our enemy because they're helping to keep Ukraine out of Trump and Putin's clutches by preventing the Putin/Trump "Deal" that gives Putin and Trump the ability to destroy Ukraine's identity as a sovereign independent nation.

Imagine that: two vile and conniving men deciding the fate of millions of people who want nothing more than to be secure within their own borders and left to make their own decisions regarding their future as a democracy and a contributing member to the free nation's of the world's prosperity.
 
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Even China will see that... maybe they are feeling the potential Russia betrayal by going to the US. India might be on trouble too, by choosing one of the two because will be taken by inferiors in any case.
 
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cytg111 said:
Yes knew it. Lifting sanctions on Russia. What a good little fluffer he is. 5 seconds to the breakup of ru economy Trump to the rescue. Time for ru to rearm. Proud moment for the history books.
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Rubio says they're not being lifted as of now, but Trump has lifted sanctions on Israeli extremists who like to murder Palestinians and take their homes. I expect Putin and his mafia will be next though, Trump already killed off the group that investigated and seized bratva cash and toys after all.

Yep, probably just a matter of time. Unless someone explains to shit-for-brains what happens to the American arms export industry when we leave an ally out to dry in the face of a genocidal invasion. We are the sole producer of Patriot interceptors, also HIMARS and the munitions they fire I think. No one wants to be in the position Trump has put Ukraine. To that end they will go to France, Germany, Turkey and South Korea. No way countries will face a future Russian or Chinese war using a supplier that could abandon them, even side politically with the invaders.

Trump doesn't care about the US being the arsenal of democracy, but he might care about the US losing out on that kind of business. Kiss that 'Polish spending spree' like money goodbye for good? Seems like something he would throw a tantrum about.
 
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kage69 said:
Rubio says they're not being lifted as of now, but Trump has lifted sanctions on Israeli extremists who like to murder Palestinians and take their homes. I expect Putin and his mafia will be next though, Trump already killed off the group that investigated and seized bratva cash and toys after all.

Yep, probably just a matter of time. Unless someone explains to shit-for-brains what happens to the American arms export industry when we leave an ally out to dry in the face of a genocidal invasion. We are the sole producer of Patriot interceptors, also HIMARS and the munitions they fire I think. No one wants to be in the position Trump has put Ukraine. To that end they will go to France, Germany, Turkey and South Korea. No way countries will face a future Russian or Chinese war using a supplier that could abandon them, even side politically with the invaders.

Trump doesn't care about the US being the arsenal of democracy, but he might care about the US losing out on that kind of business. Kiss that 'Polish spending spree' like money goodbye for good? Seems like something he would throw a tantrum about.
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One hopes that selling out the Gun-and-murder profiteers is...um, a really bad idea for that guy. The repercussions of which would be much to the joy of the world.

amirite?
 
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I think it's possible that Trump taking directives from Putin essentially, can backfire at least a bit. You know there's conservatives in the military and other such ranks or government establishments, who would see such actions as betrayal. Regardless if they support Trump's culture wars or small government obsessions. And keep in mind the Pentagon is getting significantly cut from all we are seeing right now.

I'm not saying that will stop Trump but it will slow his ability to take over certain military assets minds and hearts. Depending on how things play out that could turned out to be important in a certain moment or two.
 
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Hopefully other powers that be in Ukraine won't be under the mistaken impression that getting rid of Zelenskyy will result in being on America's good side again.

I wonder if Ukraine needs to be concerned with the possibility of getting sabotaged goods from America now that Trump is in power. I'm inclined to think not because (IMO) Trump is a lot more concerned about his image and I'd say chances are that he's a useful tool of Russia (rather than an asset under contract), and I don't think Trump does subtle.
 
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mikeymikec said:
Hopefully other powers that be in Ukraine won't be under the mistaken impression that getting rid of Zelenskyy will result in being on America's good side again.
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The Russian propaganda machine is working tirelessly in this direction, of course there was not so much talk about the USA before, but russians are constantly trying to blame Zelensky for all the sins. I think you could see their bots, in particular.
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I wonder if Ukraine needs to be concerned with the possibility of getting sabotaged goods from America now that Trump is in power. I'm inclined to think not because (IMO) Trump is a lot more concerned about his image and I'd say chances are that he's a useful tool of Russia (rather than an asset under contract), and I don't think Trump does subtle.
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I think we should be more concerned about making hasty decisions. Once we already made a hasty agreement – a nuke for what we thought were security guarantees. And as we see, we have a war now.
 
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Reportedly B1 Centauro units being shipped from Italy to Ukraine.
Italy is replacing these now retired units with Centauro II.

Italy previously supplied Ukraine with large numbers of surplus M109 howitzers.

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Dipshit thinks he's clever and principled about saving lives, and yet again wants to do something that will push the region to a wider war. He just doesn't understand simple concepts, like deterrence, or cause and effect. Blowback doesn't enter into his world view because he doesn't think long term at all, it's about getting what he wants, now. It's like watching a 6 year old try to run a submarine.

Iron up EU, go nuts, let your disgust for this buffoon and his master fuel it.
 
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kage69 said:
Dipshit thinks he's clever and principled about saving lives, and yet again wants to do something that will push the region to a wider war. He just doesn't understand simple concepts, like deterrence, or cause and effect. Blowback doesn't enter into his world view because he doesn't think long term at all, it's about getting what he wants, now. It's like watching a 6 year old try to run a submarine.
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Alternative theory, Putin is the President of the United States. Because Trump has been the KGB's agent since 1987.
Kazakhstan has spilled the dirt. "Russia if you are listening" makes a lot more sense now.

Donald Trump was recruited by KGB with codename 'Krasnov', claims ex-Soviet spy​

Former Chairman of Kazakhstan’s National Security Committee Alnur Mussayev claims the Soviet KGB recruited Donald Trump before the collapse of the USSR, assigning him the alias Krasnov​
 
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