Homerboy
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pauldun170
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"Theory"
If Putin wasn't an asshole, he could have taken the sure and steady approach. Manipulating Ukrainian politics to insure Russia friendly policies and insure that from an economic and business standpoint Russia investments in Ukraine are mutually beneficial enough where Ukraine population look towards Russia as an ally. Slow and steady and milk that cash cow while all of Europe become completely hooked on Russia\Ukrainian gas and resources. Partner with European companies to revamp Russian industry and try and diversify their economy. Start small like a few factories hear and there. No need to do stupid shit like invade Crimea. Just keep pouring fertilizer on that who shitty Union state concept they have with (forget the official name of the org that Russia, Belarus Kazakhstan and the rest have.
You can still get away with all the shitty Putin\dictator bullshit but do it smart you can sucker Europe and the US to bank roll the whole operation. Unfortunately that takes time.
Rumor of Putin (Who is turning 70 this year) having Parkinsons and other health issues have been going on for a couple of years now.
Putin might be doing all this nonsense to cement his legacy before he gets booted naturally. Rushing Russians do stupid things
(crosses fingers that Putin dies of natural causes soon)
If Putin wasn't an asshole, he could have taken the sure and steady approach. Manipulating Ukrainian politics to insure Russia friendly policies and insure that from an economic and business standpoint Russia investments in Ukraine are mutually beneficial enough where Ukraine population look towards Russia as an ally. Slow and steady and milk that cash cow while all of Europe become completely hooked on Russia\Ukrainian gas and resources. Partner with European companies to revamp Russian industry and try and diversify their economy. Start small like a few factories hear and there. No need to do stupid shit like invade Crimea. Just keep pouring fertilizer on that who shitty Union state concept they have with (forget the official name of the org that Russia, Belarus Kazakhstan and the rest have.
You can still get away with all the shitty Putin\dictator bullshit but do it smart you can sucker Europe and the US to bank roll the whole operation. Unfortunately that takes time.
Rumor of Putin (Who is turning 70 this year) having Parkinsons and other health issues have been going on for a couple of years now.
Putin might be doing all this nonsense to cement his legacy before he gets booted naturally. Rushing Russians do stupid things
(crosses fingers that Putin dies of natural causes soon)
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At some point someone there had to look up and see the only countries standing with them were Russia and Belarus and decided that's not really a winning hand.
Jaskalas
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I assume they do not want to be mistaken for Russians and sent a Turkish drone for Christmas.
Zorba
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We're there AWACS actually in Ukrainian airspace? Not just the border areas?
Edited: nevermind saw he response to others.
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I wonder how many republican's including Trump will have money problems from the Russia Central Bank being cut off..
hal2kilo
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Saw a video this morning of cluster bombs landing in a city environment. That's only to kill civilians.
hal2kilo
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That was my first thought when I heard that they were going to get fighters. Wipe out the convoy!
Sounds like this could really be a thing?
Even they can read a room, if only at a 3rd grade level.
brianmanahan
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i just really hope that this huge pushback from the rest of the world doesn't make putin say "screw it" and start really going crazy
Russia can no longer pay them to talk them up since Russia's banks are being cut off.. no money, no positive support.. That's what happens when you are a tabloid news outlet for hire.
Zorba
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They also wrote the book on talking out of both sides of their mouth.
JTsyo
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With the peace talks, what can thy agree to? I can't imagine Ukraine settling for anything but Russia pulling forces back to where they were last week. What would they be willing to give to Russia to ensure Russia can at least sell it as a win at home? Give them Crimea?
Zorba
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Luckily, Putin has kids. Hopefully that will moderate the burn it all down impulses.
pauldun170
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You know you fucked up when even the Swiss pick sides
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sportage
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CNN flashed a video clip of Putin sitting there, then flashed a clip of Russian generals (I presume) sitting near by, and those generals did not look at all happy. In fact, they were looking quite smug. Then it hit me, is that the look of a coup? With Putin acting so... so... Donald Trump-ish, and with beloved Putin now pissing off his own Russian people so much where they have taken to the streets in protest, it makes me wonder if those generals are maybe planning something? If I were Putin, and my generals with the guns were looking at me that way, I'd be worried.
Putin should be worried when he talks of nukes and when Russian ATM's stop working all while his generals are giving Putin "that look". Just maybe, for the sake of the union and for the survival of the union, just maybe for Putin to start talking nukes crossed the line even for Putin's generals. Maybe the generals are starting to believe that Putin is off his rocker and must be stopped.
Now, wouldn't THAT be a pleasant and welcome surprise? And, the solution to all of this.
Putin should be worried when he talks of nukes and when Russian ATM's stop working all while his generals are giving Putin "that look". Just maybe, for the sake of the union and for the survival of the union, just maybe for Putin to start talking nukes crossed the line even for Putin's generals. Maybe the generals are starting to believe that Putin is off his rocker and must be stopped.
Now, wouldn't THAT be a pleasant and welcome surprise? And, the solution to all of this.
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spacejamz
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Are generals supposed to look happy when their troops in battle (and losing troops and equipment to an under powered opponent)?
brianmanahan
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You and your little bitch buddies in Belarus can go back to running your gangster states. That’s the offer. Or continue to bleed here.
Murdoch moves in a mysterious way, His wonders to perform; He plants his footsteps in the sea, And profits from the storm.
Homerboy
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And I'm guessing the look on a Russian General's face is generally disgruntled and unhappy.
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