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Brovane

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Ajay said:
I'll check it out! Curious about capacitor capacities and recharge rates. Shooting a drone here and there isn't a problem. Shooting dozens of them is a bit more of a challenge.
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The 15kw system is supposeed to be able to support 300 seconds of continuous fire in the battery with continuous re-charge available from the generator. I would imagine a continuous drone attack of dozens and dozens of drones might be able to overwhelm the current system if only one was deployed.

There is also a 50kw system that is built to be integrated into a Stryker.
 
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kage69

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Brovane said:
The US military already has a 10kw Laser System deployed that is a palletized that fits in the bed of a pickup truck. How is that for mobile?

https://www.rtx.com/news/news-cente...th-combat-ready-laser-weapon-to-u-s-air-force

Good video discussing some of the improvements over the last 35-years.
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I'm all for directed energy weapons but there needs to be more of a focus on swarms, something with a broader brush. Hopefully we'll see THOR mature enough to find it's way to Ukrainian cities, though we haven't even rolled it out for ourselves yet.

Basically a drone death ray
 
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It seems that Russia may have run out of certain types of heavy load tires.

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And in related news, Russian internal fuel market seems distorted and somewhat broken.

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The government may have a public reason, but perhaps the military is monopolising all the fuel trucks... or perhaps the fuel trucks can't get any tires...
 
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Racan said:
www.theguardian.com

Cuba uncovers ‘human trafficking ring’ recruiting for Russia’s war in Ukraine

Havana says it is dismantling network seeking to recruit Cubans as mercenaries as Moscow attempts to boost its forces
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Anything to avoid another mobilisation. Kind of surprised that Cuba is cutting them off.
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Interesting take this morning on NPR, from a decades-long Cuban Spycraft expert, is that this is just Havanna covering their own asses for what they were doing. He says that the citizen/official massive police state in Cuba makes it essentially impossible for Cuban admin to not know every single thing that is happening within country, crime-wise, so they were involved in this. Seemingly, the idea that a mercenary ring of recruiters operating within Cuba and without the knowledge of the government is cartoon levels of bad humor. They were working for the government.

But Cuba increasingly wants to get friendlier with the US and they also depend on Ukraine for trade. Seems like they are trying to pull themselves out from under the bus before it rolls through.
 
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Lost_in_the_HTTP

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There's something happening here
What it is ain't exactly clear
There's some men with some guns over there.



Ukraine's first lady is 'afraid' the world is turning away from war​

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ABC|2 hours ago
KYIV -- Ukrainian first lady Olena Zelenska is "afraid" the world's attention is turning away from the war, more than 18 months since Russia launched a full-scale invasion of her country. Speaking with ABC News in an interview in Kyiv, Zelenska said, "sometimes people become reluctant, people talk about Ukraine fatigue."


War sanctions against Russia highlight growing divisions among the Group of 20 countries​

abcnews.go.com.ico
ABC News|19 minutes ago
Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen is facing growing skepticism from some leading rich and developing nations as the residual impact of sanctions against Russia is deepening divisions among the Group of 20 countries WASHINGTON -- Treasury Secretary Janet ...
 
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Ajay

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Brovane said:
The 15kw system is supposeed to be able to support 300 seconds of continuous fire in the battery with continuous re-charge available from the generator. I would imagine a continuous drone attack of dozens and dozens of drones might be able to overwhelm the current system if only one was deployed.

There is also a 50kw system that is built to be integrated into a Stryker.
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Thanks for the vid. Once I started watching this, I realized I had read about them before. Unfortunately, the cooling problems back then, and the maintaining alignment of the optical system are still an issue. The larger units with both optical detection (infrared) and radar make the most sense to me. I have a bizarre fixation on LiDAR, so I wish that was part of the detection package :p ). The limitation is larger swarms, likely targeting the anti-drone laser system itself. So a multi-turret system is needed when protecting a high value target. Good stuff. @kage69 mention THOR - so eventually we should have the ability to create a multi-layered defense against these little monsters.
 
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Ajay said:
Thanks for the vid. Once I started watching this, I realized I had read about them before. Unfortunately, the cooling problems back then, and the maintaining alignment of the optical system are still an issue. The larger units with both optical detection (infrared) and radar make the most sense to me. I have a bizarre fixation on LiDAR, so I wish that was part of the detection package :p ). The limitation is larger swarms, likely targeting the anti-drone laser system itself. So a multi-turret system is needed when protecting a high value target. Good stuff. @kage69 mention THOR - so eventually we should have the ability to create a multi-layered defense against these little monsters.
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They would probably just deploy more than one of these systems for a high value target. Since they are fairly easily mobile that would make the most sense instead of taking a system and putting a second turret on it. These systems still have issue with weather like winds or clouds reducing effectiveness of the system but for $1B+ a year in spend on these laser systems it looks like they are finally making some significant advancements.
 
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Informative thread on Ukraine AF breakthrough , Russia is throwing their last elite units at it to try and stop it

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So that pilot that I said probably shot his crew, Kuzminov? According to him he tried to talk his crew into defecting too, trusted they'd leave him alone while flying as he was the only one who could fly. Kinda ballsy. Planned it over 6 months.

"I was calming the guys down I told them everything was fine, that good people live here and everything will be great. But they started to get scared and behave themselves a bit aggressively, and they ran from the helicopter towards the border,” Reception party supposedly gave them the option to surrender, but when they didn't...

“There are no fascists or Nazis here… What is happening now is just a genocide of the Ukrainian people,” Kuzminov said in a video released this week by Ukrainian intelligence. “Nobody wants this war. When Ukraine will win is just a question of time,” he said.

He wants to join the Ukrainian AF and help. Respect. I wonder if he got paid for the chopper
 
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kage69 said:
So that pilot that I said probably shot his crew, Kuzminov? According to him he tried to talk his crew into defecting too, trusted they'd leave him alone while flying as he was the only one who could fly. Kinda ballsy. Planned it over 6 months.

"I was calming the guys down I told them everything was fine, that good people live here and everything will be great. But they started to get scared and behave themselves a bit aggressively, and they ran from the helicopter towards the border,” Reception party supposedly gave them the option to surrender, but when they didn't...

“There are no fascists or Nazis here… What is happening now is just a genocide of the Ukrainian people,” Kuzminov said in a video released this week by Ukrainian intelligence. “Nobody wants this war. When Ukraine will win is just a question of time,” he said.

He wants to join the Ukrainian AF and help. Respect. I wonder if he got paid for the chopper
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He did, $500k USD iirc.
 
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kage69 said:
So that pilot that I said probably shot his crew, Kuzminov? According to him he tried to talk his crew into defecting too, trusted they'd leave him alone while flying as he was the only one who could fly. Kinda ballsy. Planned it over 6 months.

"I was calming the guys down I told them everything was fine, that good people live here and everything will be great. But they started to get scared and behave themselves a bit aggressively, and they ran from the helicopter towards the border,” Reception party supposedly gave them the option to surrender, but when they didn't...

“There are no fascists or Nazis here… What is happening now is just a genocide of the Ukrainian people,” Kuzminov said in a video released this week by Ukrainian intelligence. “Nobody wants this war. When Ukraine will win is just a question of time,” he said.

He wants to join the Ukrainian AF and help. Respect. I wonder if he got paid for the chopper
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Much respect for him wanting to join the Ukrainian AF. It shows his defection isn't because he's a coward, but just want to be on the right side of history.
 
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Ajay said:
I'll check it out! Curious about capacitor capacities and recharge rates. Shooting a drone here and there isn't a problem. Shooting dozens of them is a bit more of a challenge.
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Gatling type gun expending 30mm shotgun rounds choked down and timed for specific distances for downing drone swarms is what came off the top of my head without pondering. Spray and pray a wide pattern of carbide ball bearings into the swarm, sit back and enjoy the show.

Is there such a thing as directed EMP I wonder.
 
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Is there a sound/air cannon powerful enough to send a wave to disrupt the flight of these little things? Literally blow them out of the air?
 
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