Rush on IRAQ: "Wer'e doing the Lords work"

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: Condor
I think I heard someplace that it was a Jihad. Isn't that a religious war?

so clearly we must counter with our own religious war :roll:

It is what it is. The difference between our belief system and thiers is that we differentiate between granularities of religious belief. To them we are all either Muslim or should die!

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: Klixxer
Well, the majority of the American people agrees with him.

I think that the current USA is a perfect example of that you actually DO become what you fear.

I listened to the guy several years ago, but at some point, his boat drifted over the dam.

 

[BBond]

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: Condor
I think I heard someplace that it was a Jihad. Isn't that a religious war?

so clearly we must counter with our own religious war :roll:

It is what it is. The difference between our belief system and thiers is that we differentiate between granularities of religious belief. To them we are all either Muslim or should die!

I know many Muslims. This is not their belief. This accusation is a perversion of their belief just as the current cynical use of the Christian religion by the Neocons.

All Muslims don't want us dead. Their belief system says nothing of the kind. There are opportunists on both sides who use religion as a tool to advance their private agenda. They use the tool to keep us in fear of each other and separated. They demonize their enemies and distort the teachings of their prophets and saviors to further their own greedy, deadly, un-spiritual goals.

Don't be foolded by them. The vast majority of the members of major religions around the world realize the God they pray to is the God of love and truth, not the God of hate and fear. To suggest all Muslims want us all dead is an irresponsible, divisive, dangerous untruth.

If this hate and fear mongering is true should we declare a holy war to stop the Muslim threat then?

When you frame it like that it's easy to see that Bush already has.

 

[VTrider]

Originally posted by: irwincur
I would like to see an offical quote of this. I am sure that you cannot deliver.




You also fail to realize in you grand idiocy that Rush rarely (if ever) mentiones religion or God in his broadcast. Why? He is agnostic and proudly so.


Just more BS from this pathetically liberal (and intelectually weak) board.

Hey irwincur buddy, Do you think i'm just making this up? Why aren't all the rush fans on this board chiming in backing me up? I know what I heard, your're right it's BS - not my BS, but it is BS on the part of Limbaugh.

Some people here talk the talk & don't walk the walk - not me my friend, I'm no poser. I'll tell ya what, you want me to deliver, I'll give you what you want. Somewhere out there on great WWW i'm sure exists word for word transcripts from each Rush show. Somebody send me a link and i'll personally cut&paste this 'official quote' and repost it back on this thread, hey I'll even PM you it just because I'm a nice guy.

Just more BS from this pathetically liberal (and intelectually weak) board.

Liberal and proud of it!! (BTW: intellectually is spelled with 2 L's Einstein)

 

[judasmachine]

Apparently he is still addicted to his meds............ what a nutcase.

 

[digiram]

Originally posted by: NightCrawler
http://www.e-sheep.com/rusheats_intro/

lol, thanks nightcrawler

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I sometimes listen to him during lunch. I often switch between him and Frankens show. Franken has a better show, but no one can compete with Rush ranting.

 

[Riprorin]

Freeing people from torture and oppression isn't "the Lord's work"?

Huh.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Freeing people from torture and oppression isn't "the Lord's work"?

Huh.

We didn't go to Iraq on some big ass christian crusade, we went there because of a bunch of horseshit lies on WMD's. Rush is full of crap.

Don't try to spin that hellhole over there into something it's not...because it AINT!!!

 

[RealityTime]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Freeing people from torture and oppression isn't "the Lord's work"?

Huh.

We didn't go to Iraq on some big ass christian crusade, we went there because of a bunch of horseshit lies on WMD's. Rush is full of crap.

Don't try to spin that hellhole over there into something it's not...because it AINT!!!

well said and thoroughly agreed. anyone who thinks what is going on in Iraq is the Lord's work is totally out to lunch.

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: Condor
I think I heard someplace that it was a Jihad. Isn't that a religious war?

so clearly we must counter with our own religious war :roll:

It is what it is. The difference between our belief system and thiers is that we differentiate between granularities of religious belief. To them we are all either Muslim or should die!

I know many Muslims. This is not their belief. This accusation is a perversion of their belief just as the current cynical use of the Christian religion by the Neocons.

All Muslims don't want us dead. Their belief system says nothing of the kind. There are opportunists on both sides who use religion as a tool to advance their private agenda. They use the tool to keep us in fear of each other and separated. They demonize their enemies and distort the teachings of their prophets and saviors to further their own greedy, deadly, un-spiritual goals.

Don't be foolded by them. The vast majority of the members of major religions around the world realize the God they pray to is the God of love and truth, not the God of hate and fear. To suggest all Muslims want us all dead is an irresponsible, divisive, dangerous untruth.

If this hate and fear mongering is true should we declare a holy war to stop the Muslim threat then?

When you frame it like that it's easy to see that Bush already has.

I was going to respond to what you said, till I noticed BBond did a much better job. I'd like to hear your opinion on what he says

 

[Riprorin]

Rush on IRAQ: "Wer'e doing the Lords work"

His last statement before the marine hung up was "and you know you are doing the lord's work".

So which is it?

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: Condor
I think I heard someplace that it was a Jihad. Isn't that a religious war?

so clearly we must counter with our own religious war :roll:

It is what it is. The difference between our belief system and thiers is that we differentiate between granularities of religious belief. To them we are all either Muslim or should die!

I know many Muslims. This is not their belief. This accusation is a perversion of their belief just as the current cynical use of the Christian religion by the Neocons.

All Muslims don't want us dead. Their belief system says nothing of the kind. There are opportunists on both sides who use religion as a tool to advance their private agenda. They use the tool to keep us in fear of each other and separated. They demonize their enemies and distort the teachings of their prophets and saviors to further their own greedy, deadly, un-spiritual goals.

Don't be foolded by them. The vast majority of the members of major religions around the world realize the God they pray to is the God of love and truth, not the God of hate and fear. To suggest all Muslims want us all dead is an irresponsible, divisive, dangerous untruth.

If this hate and fear mongering is true should we declare a holy war to stop the Muslim threat then?

When you frame it like that it's easy to see that Bush already has.

I think you missed the point that the Muslim has already declared war on us. If you have some good Muslims, tell them to go home and take care of the bad ones so we can come home. I know some good ones too, but I don't see them doing much except bad mouthing the bad ones. That won't help anything. Bush didn't declare war, he just responded to a declaration of war!

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Freeing people from torture and oppression isn't "the Lord's work"?

Huh.

We didn't go to Iraq on some big ass christian crusade, we went there because of a bunch of horseshit lies on WMD's. Rush is full of crap.

Don't try to spin that hellhole over there into something it's not...because it AINT!!!

If it doesn't develop into a big christian crusade in response to a declaration of war, it will be because we went there early enough!

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: Condor
I think I heard someplace that it was a Jihad. Isn't that a religious war?

so clearly we must counter with our own religious war :roll:

It is what it is. The difference between our belief system and thiers is that we differentiate between granularities of religious belief. To them we are all either Muslim or should die!

I know many Muslims. This is not their belief. This accusation is a perversion of their belief just as the current cynical use of the Christian religion by the Neocons.

All Muslims don't want us dead. Their belief system says nothing of the kind. There are opportunists on both sides who use religion as a tool to advance their private agenda. They use the tool to keep us in fear of each other and separated. They demonize their enemies and distort the teachings of their prophets and saviors to further their own greedy, deadly, un-spiritual goals.

Don't be foolded by them. The vast majority of the members of major religions around the world realize the God they pray to is the God of love and truth, not the God of hate and fear. To suggest all Muslims want us all dead is an irresponsible, divisive, dangerous untruth.

If this hate and fear mongering is true should we declare a holy war to stop the Muslim threat then?

When you frame it like that it's easy to see that Bush already has.

I think you missed the point that the Muslim has already declared war on us. If you have some good Muslims, tell them to go home and take care of the bad ones so we can come home. I know some good ones too, but I don't see them doing much except bad mouthing the bad ones. That won't help anything. Bush didn't declare war, he just responded to a declaration of war!

By that noted fundamentalist Saddam?

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: magomago

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: Condor
I think I heard someplace that it was a Jihad. Isn't that a religious war?

so clearly we must counter with our own religious war :roll:

It is what it is. The difference between our belief system and thiers is that we differentiate between granularities of religious belief. To them we are all either Muslim or should die!

I know many Muslims. This is not their belief. This accusation is a perversion of their belief just as the current cynical use of the Christian religion by the Neocons.

All Muslims don't want us dead. Their belief system says nothing of the kind. There are opportunists on both sides who use religion as a tool to advance their private agenda. They use the tool to keep us in fear of each other and separated. They demonize their enemies and distort the teachings of their prophets and saviors to further their own greedy, deadly, un-spiritual goals.

Don't be foolded by them. The vast majority of the members of major religions around the world realize the God they pray to is the God of love and truth, not the God of hate and fear. To suggest all Muslims want us all dead is an irresponsible, divisive, dangerous untruth.

If this hate and fear mongering is true should we declare a holy war to stop the Muslim threat then?

When you frame it like that it's easy to see that Bush already has.

I was going to respond to what you said, till I noticed BBond did a much better job. I'd like to hear your opinion on what he says

So, are you packing to go back and fix the mess so we can come home?

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: Condor
I think I heard someplace that it was a Jihad. Isn't that a religious war?

so clearly we must counter with our own religious war :roll:

It is what it is. The difference between our belief system and thiers is that we differentiate between granularities of religious belief. To them we are all either Muslim or should die!

I know many Muslims. This is not their belief. This accusation is a perversion of their belief just as the current cynical use of the Christian religion by the Neocons.

All Muslims don't want us dead. Their belief system says nothing of the kind. There are opportunists on both sides who use religion as a tool to advance their private agenda. They use the tool to keep us in fear of each other and separated. They demonize their enemies and distort the teachings of their prophets and saviors to further their own greedy, deadly, un-spiritual goals.

Don't be foolded by them. The vast majority of the members of major religions around the world realize the God they pray to is the God of love and truth, not the God of hate and fear. To suggest all Muslims want us all dead is an irresponsible, divisive, dangerous untruth.

If this hate and fear mongering is true should we declare a holy war to stop the Muslim threat then?

When you frame it like that it's easy to see that Bush already has.

I think you missed the point that the Muslim has already declared war on us. If you have some good Muslims, tell them to go home and take care of the bad ones so we can come home. I know some good ones too, but I don't see them doing much except bad mouthing the bad ones. That won't help anything. Bush didn't declare war, he just responded to a declaration of war!

By that noted fundamentalist Saddam?

Could you dress the Muslims in different clothes, say one color for those who love us and hate the terrorist and another color for the ones who hate and want to kill us so we can tell them apart? If you will do that, it will make this entire middle east situation so much more manageable. You could be the hero in this.

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: Condor
I think I heard someplace that it was a Jihad. Isn't that a religious war?

so clearly we must counter with our own religious war :roll:

It is what it is. The difference between our belief system and thiers is that we differentiate between granularities of religious belief. To them we are all either Muslim or should die!

I know many Muslims. This is not their belief. This accusation is a perversion of their belief just as the current cynical use of the Christian religion by the Neocons.

All Muslims don't want us dead. Their belief system says nothing of the kind. There are opportunists on both sides who use religion as a tool to advance their private agenda. They use the tool to keep us in fear of each other and separated. They demonize their enemies and distort the teachings of their prophets and saviors to further their own greedy, deadly, un-spiritual goals.

Don't be foolded by them. The vast majority of the members of major religions around the world realize the God they pray to is the God of love and truth, not the God of hate and fear. To suggest all Muslims want us all dead is an irresponsible, divisive, dangerous untruth.

If this hate and fear mongering is true should we declare a holy war to stop the Muslim threat then?

When you frame it like that it's easy to see that Bush already has.

I think you missed the point that the Muslim has already declared war on us. If you have some good Muslims, tell them to go home and take care of the bad ones so we can come home. I know some good ones too, but I don't see them doing much except bad mouthing the bad ones. That won't help anything. Bush didn't declare war, he just responded to a declaration of war!

By that noted fundamentalist Saddam?

He aided and abetted terrorists.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: Condor
I think I heard someplace that it was a Jihad. Isn't that a religious war?

so clearly we must counter with our own religious war :roll:

It is what it is. The difference between our belief system and thiers is that we differentiate between granularities of religious belief. To them we are all either Muslim or should die!

I know many Muslims. This is not their belief. This accusation is a perversion of their belief just as the current cynical use of the Christian religion by the Neocons.

All Muslims don't want us dead. Their belief system says nothing of the kind. There are opportunists on both sides who use religion as a tool to advance their private agenda. They use the tool to keep us in fear of each other and separated. They demonize their enemies and distort the teachings of their prophets and saviors to further their own greedy, deadly, un-spiritual goals.

Don't be foolded by them. The vast majority of the members of major religions around the world realize the God they pray to is the God of love and truth, not the God of hate and fear. To suggest all Muslims want us all dead is an irresponsible, divisive, dangerous untruth.

If this hate and fear mongering is true should we declare a holy war to stop the Muslim threat then?

When you frame it like that it's easy to see that Bush already has.

I think you missed the point that the Muslim has already declared war on us. If you have some good Muslims, tell them to go home and take care of the bad ones so we can come home. I know some good ones too, but I don't see them doing much except bad mouthing the bad ones. That won't help anything. Bush didn't declare war, he just responded to a declaration of war!

By that noted fundamentalist Saddam?

Could you dress the Muslims in different clothes, say one color for those who love us and hate the terrorist and another color for the ones who hate and want to kill us so we can tell them apart? If you will do that, it will make this entire middle east situation so much more manageable. You could be the hero in this.

Ahh, kill them all and let God sort it out. Now this I understand. Of course Saddam wasn't much of a Muslim. You may note that the Iraqi govt. was secular. Still brown skinned people do look a lot alike.

You can be the hero in all this. How are you going to kill them all?

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Freeing people from torture and oppression isn't "the Lord's work"?

Huh.

We didn't go to Iraq on some big ass christian crusade, we went there because of a bunch of horseshit lies on WMD's. Rush is full of crap.

Don't try to spin that hellhole over there into something it's not...because it AINT!!!

If it doesn't develop into a big christian crusade in response to a declaration of war, it will be because we went there early enough!

Fvck Iraq. We shouldn't have been there at all. You can try and try but unless you show me a big ole threatening pile of WMD's, you're wasting your keystrokes. In Iraq, they're wasting MY money!


Oh, and I guess that Rush meant that Bush is Lord, because that's the only work that's being done over there is Bush's work.

Fvck Iraq. Have elections (rigged or not). Get the fvck out!

He aided and abetted terrorists.

So does fvcking Saudi Arabia, but we'll never touch them will we? Hell, we aided Saddam when it was something we were interested in. The "What have you done for me lately" country.

 

[daveymark]

Wow, a whole thread based on the hearsay of one person. Welcome to the Intarweb!

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: Condor
I think I heard someplace that it was a Jihad. Isn't that a religious war?

so clearly we must counter with our own religious war :roll:

It is what it is. The difference between our belief system and thiers is that we differentiate between granularities of religious belief. To them we are all either Muslim or should die!

I know many Muslims. This is not their belief. This accusation is a perversion of their belief just as the current cynical use of the Christian religion by the Neocons.

All Muslims don't want us dead. Their belief system says nothing of the kind. There are opportunists on both sides who use religion as a tool to advance their private agenda. They use the tool to keep us in fear of each other and separated. They demonize their enemies and distort the teachings of their prophets and saviors to further their own greedy, deadly, un-spiritual goals.

Don't be foolded by them. The vast majority of the members of major religions around the world realize the God they pray to is the God of love and truth, not the God of hate and fear. To suggest all Muslims want us all dead is an irresponsible, divisive, dangerous untruth.

If this hate and fear mongering is true should we declare a holy war to stop the Muslim threat then?

When you frame it like that it's easy to see that Bush already has.

I think you missed the point that the Muslim has already declared war on us. If you have some good Muslims, tell them to go home and take care of the bad ones so we can come home. I know some good ones too, but I don't see them doing much except bad mouthing the bad ones. That won't help anything. Bush didn't declare war, he just responded to a declaration of war!

By that noted fundamentalist Saddam?

He aided and abetted terrorists.

So did we, and ones just as nasty or worse than Saddam. It may have been an excuse, but in no way a justification. We also supported Saddam when we knew what he was, and allowed oil money to flow his way after '91 as long as he wasn't using it to rebuild weapons programs.

Here is how it works. When someone does as we wish they are saints, when not they are sinners. That's the criteria. What they do to their people and others is irrelevant in large part. Notice we have a nice relationship with China, and I believe you know what is happening to Christians in China.

It's all a matter of convenience.

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: Condor
I think I heard someplace that it was a Jihad. Isn't that a religious war?

so clearly we must counter with our own religious war :roll:

It is what it is. The difference between our belief system and thiers is that we differentiate between granularities of religious belief. To them we are all either Muslim or should die!

I know many Muslims. This is not their belief. This accusation is a perversion of their belief just as the current cynical use of the Christian religion by the Neocons.

All Muslims don't want us dead. Their belief system says nothing of the kind. There are opportunists on both sides who use religion as a tool to advance their private agenda. They use the tool to keep us in fear of each other and separated. They demonize their enemies and distort the teachings of their prophets and saviors to further their own greedy, deadly, un-spiritual goals.

Don't be foolded by them. The vast majority of the members of major religions around the world realize the God they pray to is the God of love and truth, not the God of hate and fear. To suggest all Muslims want us all dead is an irresponsible, divisive, dangerous untruth.

If this hate and fear mongering is true should we declare a holy war to stop the Muslim threat then?

When you frame it like that it's easy to see that Bush already has.

I think you missed the point that the Muslim has already declared war on us. If you have some good Muslims, tell them to go home and take care of the bad ones so we can come home. I know some good ones too, but I don't see them doing much except bad mouthing the bad ones. That won't help anything. Bush didn't declare war, he just responded to a declaration of war!

By that noted fundamentalist Saddam?

He aided and abetted terrorists.

So did we, and ones just as nasty or worse than Saddam. It may have been an excuse, but in no way a justification. We also supported Saddam when we knew what he was, and allowed oil money to flow his way after '91 as long as he wasn't using it to rebuild weapons programs.

Here is how it works. When someone does as we wish they are saints, when not they are sinners. That's the criteria. What they do to their people and others is irrelevant in large part. Notice we have a nice relationship with China, and I believe you know what is happening to Christians in China.

It's all a matter of convenience.

No, it's a matter of dealing with reality. We live in an imperfect world.

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: Condor
So, are you packing to go back and fix the mess so we can come home?

Nice generalization. I like how automatically lump me in with the others by association. Because a few idiots are Muslim, and I am Muslim, therefore I am the one that is supposed to "fix" something, according to you.
Furthemore, just because I am born in Iraq doesn't mean if I ever "pack it", it means I go to IRaq. I live in America, and I'm an American (well..mostly ). You going to tell someone of Irish decent the same thing when crap starts to flare up over there? They will be against what is going on, people in IReland will be for and against whats going on. But if it continues, then clearly they aren't demonstrating an ability to try to solve the situation therefore we should invade and clean it up for them, right? AM I learning right?

Do I say its the any Irish's fault for the IRA, and they should clean it up? Because over the years they make "progress" and then it stalls and takes steps backwards.

You know this reminds me of a Comedian named Dat Phan.

" They like to typcast you in Hollywood, its so funny. I saw these guy and they go like "Oh you are Asian, you do comedy thats wonderful, thats great, we love it we love it. We love Orientals, we love Jackie Chan, we love Jet Li
[pause]
Okay, I love Jackie Chan, and i love Jet li...but what the hell do I have to do with them?

You know, I don't go up to Latinos and go "Oh you aer Mexican? I love Menudo, Menudo is great!

I don't go up to Black people and go, "oh you are black? I love denzel washington, he is a black guy too, he is great...eddie murphy, black guy...they are all great!"

I don't go up to White people and say "Oh you are white? I love Micheal Jackson "

The only difference is there is "no love" but rather hate.

Get it through your mind. I wouldn't hesitate to say 95-99% of Muslims do not "hate the west" or whatever you WANT to beleive in order to justify your "crusade" on them. Even go to places like Saudi Arabia and you'll notice a LOT of western things, and places like Victoria's Secret, which is supposed to represent the "epitomy of the great satan", always busy! They do no "hate" us. Iraq doesn't "hate" us. At the same time I doubt they want to be exactly like us.

But when we invade over a FALSE PREMISE(please tell me Condor, why did we invade Iraq? I thought it was supposed to be WMD, but you talk as if we invade for religious reasons. Or are you not sure?) that is going to piss people off. Now factor in that the security situation is horrible. Remember the first year of occupation in Iraq? Christmas was celebrated like crazy (obviously the secular version of Santa) and people bought into it like crazy! This year I haven't heard anything...you know why? BECAUSE THERE IS NO SECURITY.
Now add in other little things, such as Nationalism, and you'll begin to see why they want us the hell out there. Does that mean they hate "western" civilization? NO. Does that mean they think we are doing a horrible job? YES (as well as many Americans also agree)

What I find interesting though is how you almost make it seem we went to Iraq to "kill the Muslim", rather than WMD. That "they", whoever "they" are, attacked us, so in retaliation we just go get two "Muslim" Countries (though I agree with Afghanistan, although I find it ironic who the current president is...) because we are the righteous Christians that were attacked.

Could you dress the Muslims in different clothes, say one color for those who love us and hate the terrorist and another color for the ones who hate and want to kill us so we can tell them apart? I

Oh how wonderful! You either LOVE AMERICA or you WANT TO KILL AMERICA!


Eh...then again I can understand your position considering your comments on Muslims in the past.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: Condor
I think I heard someplace that it was a Jihad. Isn't that a religious war?

so clearly we must counter with our own religious war :roll:

It is what it is. The difference between our belief system and thiers is that we differentiate between granularities of religious belief. To them we are all either Muslim or should die!

I know many Muslims. This is not their belief. This accusation is a perversion of their belief just as the current cynical use of the Christian religion by the Neocons.

All Muslims don't want us dead. Their belief system says nothing of the kind. There are opportunists on both sides who use religion as a tool to advance their private agenda. They use the tool to keep us in fear of each other and separated. They demonize their enemies and distort the teachings of their prophets and saviors to further their own greedy, deadly, un-spiritual goals.

Don't be foolded by them. The vast majority of the members of major religions around the world realize the God they pray to is the God of love and truth, not the God of hate and fear. To suggest all Muslims want us all dead is an irresponsible, divisive, dangerous untruth.

If this hate and fear mongering is true should we declare a holy war to stop the Muslim threat then?

When you frame it like that it's easy to see that Bush already has.

I think you missed the point that the Muslim has already declared war on us. If you have some good Muslims, tell them to go home and take care of the bad ones so we can come home. I know some good ones too, but I don't see them doing much except bad mouthing the bad ones. That won't help anything. Bush didn't declare war, he just responded to a declaration of war!

By that noted fundamentalist Saddam?

He aided and abetted terrorists.

So did we, and ones just as nasty or worse than Saddam. It may have been an excuse, but in no way a justification. We also supported Saddam when we knew what he was, and allowed oil money to flow his way after '91 as long as he wasn't using it to rebuild weapons programs.

Here is how it works. When someone does as we wish they are saints, when not they are sinners. That's the criteria. What they do to their people and others is irrelevant in large part. Notice we have a nice relationship with China, and I believe you know what is happening to Christians in China.

It's all a matter of convenience.

No, it's a matter of dealing with reality. We live in an imperfect world.

BS. WS nailed it.......

We went to Iraq on a bullshit lie about WMD's. We didn't go on any big fvcking christian crusade....plain and simple. Spin it to whatever the fvck you guys want, just apologists in the making. Fvck Iraq, have elections and let them deal with the insurgants.

We support regimes as long as we get from them what we want, and could care less what they do with their own people as long as we're getting it.