Rumor: Trump will fire Mueller in 5 days

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Puffnstuff

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Benghazi, Obama's family is fake, 911 was an inside job, birtherism, the list goes on....keep it real Cons.
But santa and the tooth fairy are real brother. Just wait until the easter bunny finds out about your lack of faith..only chocolate eggs for your basket.:eek:
 
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It's important to realize just how long it took the GOP to turn against Nixon even though he was clearly a criminal. The most likely outcome that leads to impeachment is the Democrats win the House in 2018 and start investigating the shit out of Trump. I think we all know just how much corruption and dirt they are likely to uncover, which is what would lead to impeachment.
I just don't think conservatives from the Nixon era are comparable to today's conservatives. I also have zero faith that Democrats would make good on the investigations. Where were the investigations into the Bush/Cheney admin?
 

VRAMdemon

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There is speculation that the attacks on Mueller are not attempts to lay the groundwork for his firing, but rather attempts to lay the groundwork for eventual pardons. Or, Trump is driven by more basic instincts than that, certainly not planning past the next airing of Fox and Friends. It could be the attempts to delegitimize Mueller are simple bullying in an attempt to save his own ass politically.

Many of the attacks on Mueller are now coming from the House. The issue could be simply that we're getting closer to the midterms. House Republicans are afraid of just how their numbers might reduce in 2019, as a result of backlash against Trump. Whether they want to or not, they need to polish that turd. We are in the hands of a clown show, supported by a complicit, corrupt Congress. It's up to the people now.
 

bshole

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And don't forget the one about Michelle being a tranny!

BTW...Democrats are the ones who own "911 was an inside job".

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ust-for-conservatives/?utm_term=.e42219e4892c


Do they? Alex Jones is a Democrat?

I would say that low iq magic thinking people own "911 was an inside job". Many of these people have multiple conspiracy theories at once (flat earth, YEC, anti-Vax, etc....). When evidence is removed as requirement for belief, all kinds of crazy can result.

You should be aware that this magical thinking was an absolute requirement for survival when man fended off predators with only a rock. Homos that thought too long got eaten. That is the hypothesis at least. I don't believe that magic thinking provides an evolutionary survival advantage any more.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories
 
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Do they? Alex Jones is a Democrat?

I would say that low iq magic thinking people own "911 was an inside job". Many of these people have multiple conspiracy theories at once (flat earth, YEC, anti-Vax, etc....). When evidence is removed as requirement for belief, all kinds of crazy can result.

You should be aware that this magical thinking was an absolute requirement for survival when man fended off predators with only a rock. Homos that thought too long got eaten. That is the hypothesis at least. I don't believe that magic thinking provides an evolutionary survival advantage any more.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories
My point was that both parties have their fair share of crazies and that Democrats in particular own the vast majority of crazies when it comes to 9/11 conspiracy theories.

From your link.....
Rasmussen Reports published the results of their poll May 4, 2007. According to their press release, "Overall, 22% of all voters believe the President knew about the attacks in advance. A slightly larger number, 29%, believe the CIA knew about the attacks in advance. White Americans are less likely than others to believe that either the President or the CIA knew about the attacks in advance. Young Americans are more likely than their elders to believe the President or the CIA knew about the attacks in advance.", "Thirty-five percent (35%) of Democrats believe he did know, 39% say he did not know, and 26% are not sure." and "Republicans reject that view and, by a 7-to-1 margin, say the President did not know in advance about the attacks. Among those not affiliated with either major party, 18% believe the President knew and 57% take the opposite view."[18]
 

bshole

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My point was that both parties have their fair share of crazies and that Democrats in particular own the vast majority of crazies when it comes to 9/11 conspiracy theories.

From your link.....
Rasmussen Reports published the results of their poll May 4, 2007. According to their press release, "Overall, 22% of all voters believe the President knew about the attacks in advance. A slightly larger number, 29%, believe the CIA knew about the attacks in advance. White Americans are less likely than others to believe that either the President or the CIA knew about the attacks in advance. Young Americans are more likely than their elders to believe the President or the CIA knew about the attacks in advance.", "Thirty-five percent (35%) of Democrats believe he did know, 39% say he did not know, and 26% are not sure." and "Republicans reject that view and, by a 7-to-1 margin, say the President did not know in advance about the attacks. Among those not affiliated with either major party, 18% believe the President knew and 57% take the opposite view."[18]

35% of Democrats believe that 9/11 was an inside job? Good gawd that can't be right.
 

Younigue

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No apologies will be needed...the gut-wrenching laughter when this insanity is exposed and eventually rationalized by the believers in this rumor will be more than enough for me. Deranged hacks don't apologize well anyway.

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You're gifted at apologizing? Practice makes perfect. You have much to apologize for. I would like one for your support of anything Republican at this point. Go on. I'd like to see your talent.

So, I hope the rumors aren't true. Otherwise, time will tell. IF he were to fire Mueller I can't even begin to imagine what the fallout would be. Get your shit together man.
 

Younigue

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only peeps ive ever talked with believing that stuff were Cons, sorry bro.
Same here except for one friend and I don't know what she is... Confused would be the best way to describe her. She's actively cult bangin' these days so... She a bit peculiar to say the least.
 

bshole

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Surely you remember the level of insanity associated with BDS.

Don't know a thing about that but I went back to the question and I think I understand it better. The question was about ADVANCED warning. I believe there was indeed an advanced warning but it was too generic to be actionable. Perhaps that is what the poll is getting at. Do you agree?

The question was too vague. It should have been "Did Bush know that an attack was planned on 911 using commercial jets against the Twin Tower, Pentagon and White House and decide to allow it occur"? That is clearly conspiracy theory realm.

https://www.politico.eu/article/attacks-will-be-spectacular-cia-war-on-terror-bush-bin-laden/

“Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.” The CIA’s famous Presidential Daily Brief, presented to George W. Bush on August 6, 2001, has always been Exhibit A in the case that his administration shrugged off warnings of an Al Qaeda attack. But months earlier, starting in the spring of 2001, the CIA repeatedly and urgently began to warn the White House that an attack was coming.
 

woolfe9998

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35% of Democrats believe that 9/11 was an inside job? Good gawd that can't be right.

Rasmussen's polls lean heavily in the direction of favoring republicans. Still, there is a range of surveys on the topic, and all show more democrats believing in that particular conspiracy than republicans. So his core point is correct.

I think what's happened in the post Bush era is that the 9/11 CT isn't as politically relevant to the left any more. So leftists tend not to be as vocal about it as they were during the Bush years. These days, the leaders of this movement and its most vocal proponents are libertarian types like Alex Jones.

Yet plenty of liberals do accept nutty conspiracy theories. However, it's always an open question of to what degree are these beliefs a matter of political convenience rather than earnest conviction. I think the same can be said of many conservatives who say they believe Sandy Hook was a hoax, etc. With every CT, there are true believers and hangers on. The true believers will be the ones who post, write and speak incessantly about it, while the hangers on may check a certain box on a questionnaire or answer a question in a certain way but don't feel quite so certain about it.
 

bshole

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Rasmussen's polls lean heavily in the direction of favoring republicans. Still, there is a range of surveys on the topic, and all show more democrats believing in that particular conspiracy than republicans. So his core point is correct.

See my previous post. Perhaps the question was aimed at competence and not conspiracy. It is hard to tell.
 

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My point was that both parties have their fair share of crazies and that Democrats in particular own the vast majority of crazies when it comes to 9/11 conspiracy theories.

From your link.....
Rasmussen Reports published the results of their poll May 4, 2007. According to their press release, "Overall, 22% of all voters believe the President knew about the attacks in advance. A slightly larger number, 29%, believe the CIA knew about the attacks in advance. White Americans are less likely than others to believe that either the President or the CIA knew about the attacks in advance. Young Americans are more likely than their elders to believe the President or the CIA knew about the attacks in advance.", "Thirty-five percent (35%) of Democrats believe he did know, 39% say he did not know, and 26% are not sure." and "Republicans reject that view and, by a 7-to-1 margin, say the President did not know in advance about the attacks. Among those not affiliated with either major party, 18% believe the President knew and 57% take the opposite view."[18]

The poll question can be confusing seeing as how there were reports that both Clinton and Bush were warned of this "type" of attack before it happened. I could imagine people answering yes, he knew but not because he knew the exact details or plans of it.
 
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Don't know a thing about that but I went back to the question and I think I understand it better. The question was about ADVANCED warning. I believe there was indeed an advanced warning but it was too generic to be actionable. Perhaps that is what the poll is getting at. Do you agree?

The question was too vague. It should have been "Did Bush know that an attack was planned on 911 using commercial jets against the Twin Tower, Pentagon and White House and decide to allow it occur"? That is clearly conspiracy theory realm.

https://www.politico.eu/article/attacks-will-be-spectacular-cia-war-on-terror-bush-bin-laden/

The poll question can be confusing seeing as how there were reports that both Clinton and Bush were warned of this "type" of attack before it happened. I could imagine people answering yes, he knew but not because he knew the exact details or plans of it.
I agree. The way poll questions are asked definitely influence the answers.
 

woolfe9998

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And don't forget the one about Michelle being a tranny!

BTW...Democrats are the ones who own "911 was an inside job".

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ust-for-conservatives/?utm_term=.e42219e4892c

Your authors concede an important point at the beginning of the article. That these days conspiracy theorists are in top leadership positions among republicans. Trump advocating for conspiracy theories is a serious problem, because it makes conservatives far more likely to believe them. Can you imagine if Obama had come out in favor of 9/11 being an inside job of the Bush admin? Consider that hypothetical and you'll understand why liberals are so alarmed right now.
 

woolfe9998

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See my previous post. Perhaps the question was aimed at competence and not conspiracy. It is hard to tell.

True. And it may be a reason that particular poll shows such a high percentage (35%). Yet there are multiple surveys on this topic, and all show dems more likely to accept that is was some kind of inside jobs than reps.
 

bshole

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Your authors concede an important point at the beginning of the article. That these days conspiracy theorists are in top leadership positions among republicans. Trump advocating for conspiracy theories is a serious problem, because it makes conservatives far more likely to believe them. Can you imagine if Obama had come out in favor of 9/11 being an inside job of the Bush admin? Consider that hypothetical and you'll understand why liberals are so alarmed right now.

Actually this is one of scariest things about his administration. They have declared open war on science and data. It feels like we fell into a Theocratic Corporate Oligarchy somewhere along the line. Real damage is being done to institutions. The stuff they are doing at the CDC is downright terrifying. Fucking around with the organization that protects us from pandemics.... have they totally lost it?
 
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Your authors concede an important point at the beginning of the article. That these days conspiracy theorists are in top leadership positions among republicans. Trump advocating for conspiracy theories is a serious problem, because it makes conservatives far more likely to believe them. Can you imagine if Obama had come out in favor of 9/11 being an inside job of the Bush admin? Consider that hypothetical and you'll understand why liberals are so alarmed right now.
What a president believes is indeed very important. IIRC Obama was so incredibly naive that he actually believed that Russia wasn't one of the largest geopolitical threats in the world...and that overthrow of Gaddafi in Libya was somehow a good idea. Yes indeed...what a president believes can be extremely important....and sometimes not so much.
 

bshole

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True. And it may be a reason that particular poll shows such a high percentage (35%). Yet there are multiple surveys on this topic, and all show dems more likely to accept that is was some kind of inside jobs than reps.

Damn it that is a conspiracy! I defy your so called evidence and declare on my own authority that Democrats could never buy into the 911 inside job nonsense. What are you hiding wolfe?