Rumor: Trump will fire Mueller in 5 days

[Younigue]

More left wing lies and rumors that's all you guys got. Lies and rumors.

LOL! Sure. Then there's no need for you to defend The Plague.

I should expect to never see you on the forum again?

 

[Starbuck1975]

It's hard to see how Strzok might be influencing the investigation

Any damage, if any, is already done.

Trump is merely victim to his own lies & incompetence.

Kind of like Clinton. Maybe they should have run together.

 

[Jhhnn]

Any damage, if any, is already done.


Kind of like Clinton. Maybe they should have run together.

What kind of damage do you think Strzok might have inflicted, other than imaginary? His professionalism hasn't been questioned. He was removed for PR purposes. Not good enough, obviously.

With autopilot diversion into Hillary bashing, of course. Tearing her down doesn't make Trump look any better. It apparently just feels good to some people.

 

[Younigue]

What kind of damage do you think Strzok might have inflicted, other than imaginary? His professionalism hasn't been questioned. He was removed for PR purposes. Not good enough, obviously.

With autopilot diversion into Hillary bashing, of course. Tearing her down doesn't make Trump look any better. It apparently just feels good to some people.

LOL! That's the part their brains don't seem to be able to comprehend.

 

[Starbuck1975]

What kind of damage do you think Strzok might have inflicted, other than imaginary? His professionalism hasn't been questioned. He was removed for PR purposes. Not good enough, obviously.

With autopilot diversion into Hillary bashing, of course. Tearing her down doesn't make Trump look any better. It apparently just feels good to some people.

Your mischaracterizing the chain of events. Mueller preemptively and proactively dismissed Strzok before news of his text messages hit the media. His professionalism is absolutely in question, and Mueller did the right thing once he learned of the messages. That wasn't a PR move.

Also, Strzok wasn't some arbitrary rank and file agent. He was a fairly central figure in the Clinton investigation. There absolutely needs to be a review of his conduct given the clear partisan bias.

 

[Jhhnn]

Your mischaracterizing the chain of events. Mueller preemptively and proactively dismissed Strzok before news of his text messages hit the media. His professionalism is absolutely in question, and Mueller did the right thing once he learned of the messages. That wasn't a PR move.

Also, Strzok wasn't some arbitrary rank and file agent. He was a fairly central figure in the Clinton investigation. There absolutely needs to be a review of his conduct given the clear partisan bias.

Yeh, it was a pre-emptive move against bad PR. The GOP is flinging everything but their own poo at this point, trying to re-fight old battles that they already lost & invent ones that never happened. It plays well to the mindless ones in their base who were chanting "lock her up!" at Trump's recent rally in Pensacola, more than a year after her exoneration.

It's all Benghazified all the time at this point because there's no "there" there & never was. If they can tear Mueller & his team down far enough then the Faithful will simply refuse to believe whatever unpleasant truths that may be revealed.

Induced Hillary hate has been a powerful weapon for them & they'll use it every chance they get. The response from the base is near Pavlovian.

 

[Younigue]

Yeh, it was a pre-emptive move against bad PR. The GOP is flinging everything but their own poo at this point, trying to re-fight old battles that they already lost & invent ones that never happened. It plays well to the mindless ones in their base who were chanting "lock her up!" at Trump's recent rally in Pensacola, more than a year after her exoneration.

It's all Benghazified all the time at this point because there's no "there" there & never was. If they can tear Mueller & his team down far enough then the Faithful will simply refuse to believe whatever unpleasant truths that may be revealed.

Induced Hillary hate has been a powerful weapon for them & they'll use it every chance they get. The response from the base is near Pavlovian.

I disagree. They throw nothing but shit. At Mueller, the IA, the people of the country who oppose them or who are different from them, Hillary, science, environment and climate, the world. What they say and what they think can't be considered to be anything but shit.

 

[FelixDeCat]

I disagree. They throw nothing but shit. At Mueller, the IA, the people of the country who oppose them or who are different from them, Hillary, science, environment and climate, the world. What they say and what they think can't be considered to be anything but shit.

You need to Stop drinking the cool-aide Youniqua. You are in for eight long years of disappointment. Embrace the MAGA - and be free.

 

[woolfe9998]

Your mischaracterizing the chain of events. Mueller preemptively and proactively dismissed Strzok before news of his text messages hit the media. His professionalism is absolutely in question, and Mueller did the right thing once he learned of the messages. That wasn't a PR move.

Also, Strzok wasn't some arbitrary rank and file agent. He was a fairly central figure in the Clinton investigation. There absolutely needs to be a review of his conduct given the clear partisan bias.

Strzok's texts contained anti-Clinton remarks, anti-media remarks (accusing them of being in Clinton's pocket), anti-Sanders remarks, and a slew of other negative comments about various politicians from both parties. In one text, he described himself as "a conservative democrat" and said he favored John Kasich for POTUS. You only heard about the anti-Trump comments.

Not that it matters that he had political views. I guaranty you every agent on every investigation of everything in the universe has political views.

 

[cytg111]

You need to Stop drinking the cool-aide Youniqua. You are in for eight long years of disappointment. Embrace the MAGA - and be free.

Being allergic to stupid, thankfully, is a lifetime deal.. One would have to subject one self to mental castration to turn trump once you have seen his true picture.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Being allergic to stupid, thankfully, is a lifetime deal.. One would have to subject one self to mental castration to turn trump once you have seen his true picture.

thankfully he doesnt hide it, and didnt for decades.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

You need to Stop drinking the cool-aide Youniqua. You are in for eight long years of disappointment. Embrace the MAGA - and be free.

first of all it's spelled Kool-aid, secondly, the reference is 100% wrong. They drank flavor-ade in Jonestown. But a poseur like you would never understand that. Third, you're a weak attempt at being a troll

 

[Starbuck1975]

Yeh, it was a pre-emptive move against bad PR. The GOP is flinging everything but their own poo at this point, trying to re-fight old battles that they already lost & invent ones that never happened. It plays well to the mindless ones in their base who were chanting "lock her up!" at Trump's recent rally in Pensacola, more than a year after her exoneration.

It's all Benghazified all the time at this point because there's no "there" there & never was. If they can tear Mueller & his team down far enough then the Faithful will simply refuse to believe whatever unpleasant truths that may be revealed.

Induced Hillary hate has been a powerful weapon for them & they'll use it every chance they get. The response from the base is near Pavlovian.

If his text mesages exposed him as a fan of Bannon, and he was central to a decision not to indict Manafort, effectively exonerating Trump, would you not have a concern?

 

[Starbuck1975]

Strzok's texts contained anti-Clinton remarks, anti-media remarks (accusing them of being in Clinton's pocket), anti-Sanders remarks, and a slew of other negative comments about various politicians from both parties. In one text, he described himself as "a conservative democrat" and said he favored John Kasich for POTUS. You only heard about the anti-Trump comments.

Not that it matters that he had political views. I guaranty you every agent on every investigation of everything in the universe has political views.

Where are these other texts posted? NY Times and WAPO only cite the "insurance policy" text.

And it does matter, because Mueller saw reason enough to remove him as a risk.

 

[fskimospy]

If his text mesages exposed him as a fan of Bannon, and he was central to a decision not to indict Manafort, effectively exonerating Trump, would you not have a concern?

If an FBI agent were outed as thinking a mobster he was investigating was a scumbag should that be a cause for concern?

 

[Starbuck1975]

If an FBI agent were outed as thinking a mobster he was investigating was a scumbag should that be a cause for concern?

Depends.

Scumbag in and of itself, no.

But if the FBI agent has a mistress to which he is inappropriately texting facts about the case, there is cause for concern.

If the agent were to text something to said mistress like:

"I don't care about his alibi, this scumbag needs to go down. We need an insurance policy that will put this <insert culturally insensitive derogative> away for good."

Such a text message could potentially undermine the investigation to the extent that a good defense lawyer would cloud the narrative by establishing bias.

 

[fskimospy]

Depends.

Scumbag in and of itself, no.

But if the FBI agent has a mistress to which he is inappropriately texting facts about the case, there is cause for concern.

If the agent were to text something to said mistress like:

"I don't care about his alibi, this scumbag needs to go down. We need an insurance policy that will put this <insert culturally insensitive derogative> away for good."

Such a text message could potentially undermine the investigation to the extent that a good defense lawyer would cloud the narrative by establishing bias.

Okay but now you are making up things that were never said. Saying that you would disregard exculpatory evidence in order to secure a prosecution of an individual is professional misconduct. There is zero evidence of professional misconduct in the Trump investigation.

If an FBI agent were caught texting about a mobster currently at trial for a different offense this: ‘don’t worry, even if he gets off on that charge we have an insurance policy of indicting him on this separate crime’ would that be an issue? Of course not.

Republicans are attempting to conduct a partisan purge of the FBI by conflating dislike of Trump with professional misconduct against Trump. If you can show me professional misconduct against him I’m all ears. Otherwise it is entirely irrelevant if every member of the investigation had Clinton yard signs. After all, we’ve established that personal feelings don’t count as presumably every agent assigned to a mob case dislikes mobsters.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Okay but now you are making up things that were never said. Saying that you would disregard exculpatory evidence in order to secure a prosecution of an individual is professional misconduct. There is zero evidence of professional misconduct in the Trump investigation.

If an FBI agent were caught texting about a mobster currently at trial for a different offense this: ‘don’t worry, even if he gets off on that charge we have an insurance policy of indicting him on this separate crime’ would that be an issue? Of course not.

Republicans are attempting to conduct a partisan purge of the FBI by conflating dislike of Trump with professional misconduct against Trump. If you can show me professional misconduct against him I’m all ears. Otherwise it is entirely irrelevant if every member of the investigation had Clinton yard signs. After all, we’ve established that personal feelings don’t count as presumably every agent assigned to a mob case dislikes mobsters.

Republicans are not steering the Horowitz inquiries.

 

[fskimospy]

Republicans are not steering the Horowitz inquiries.

Republican politicians up to and including the president are making exactly these sorts of accusations, putting partisan pressure on FBI leadership and calling for investigations and purges of the FBI for those reasons.

Until there is evidence of any professional misconduct there is nothing to criticize about Mueller’s investigation. If anything we should be concerning ourselves with the politicians attempting to purge the FBI and seek their removal at the first opportunity as they’ve betrayed their oath of office.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Republican politicians up to and including the president are making exactly these sorts of accusations, putting partisan pressure on FBI leadership and calling for investigations and purges of the FBI for those reasons.

Until there is evidence of any professional misconduct there is nothing to criticize about Mueller’s investigation. If anything we should be concerning ourselves with the politicians attempting to purge the FBI and seek their removal at the first opportunity as they’ve betrayed their oath of office.

I never criticized Mueller. I hold both Mueller and Comey in high regard.

What is the point of the Horowitz inquiry other than some fairly obvious evidence of misconduct.

I am criticizing the Clinton waterboy who got exposed via the Horowitz inquiries, who subsequently got removed from the Mueller investigation.

 

[VRAMdemon]

It seems he knew, or Kushner filled him in that Flynn had commited felonies against the United States when he asked Comey to lay off.

The fact that so many Republicans serving in Congress are actively working to further the interests of themselves and their paymasters, in conscious opposition to the best interests of the United States, is completely without precedent in American history. For the first time I really think there's a chance the United States as we know it is in serious trouble. Not a certainty, but it's possible.

 

[fskimospy]

I never criticized Mueller. I hold both Mueller and Comey in high regard.

What is the point of the Horowitz inquiry other than some fairly obvious evidence of misconduct.

Let’s be honest here, there is literally zero evidence of misconduct. As you already agreed, disliking Trump is not misconduct. I keep asking for literally a single shred of evidence of misconduct but somehow nobody can ever provide one other than texts taken out of context and leaked by people who complained about leaks.

As for the inquiry, the FBI has no choice considering the misconduct coming from the White House and Congress. After the more important investigation is completed I hope we can turn to investigating Republican members of Congress who are advocating for a partisan purge of law enforcement.

I am criticizing the Clinton waterboy who got exposed via the Horowitz inquiries, who subsequently got removed from the Mueller investigation.

Now you’re back to doing this again. What was he ‘exposed’ doing that was wrong? Literally nothing. (Other than having an affair)

I’m not sure why you keep repeating the same discredited ideas where you conflate political opinions with professional misconduct. It showed very clearly when you tried to make a mobster example but deliberately inserted misconduct in it that did not exist here. Remember, if literally every member of the FBI named their kid after Hillary Clinton, even the boys, that would be entirely fine.

 

[fskimospy]

It seems he knew, or Kushner filled him in that Flynn had commited felonies against the United States when he asked Comey to lay off.

The fact that so many Republicans serving in Congress are actively working to further the interests of themselves and their paymasters, in conscious opposition to the best interests of the United States, is completely without precedent in American history. For the first time I really think there's a chance the United States as we know it is in serious trouble. Not a certainty, but it's possible.

Yes if you take a step back and look at what Republicans are doing right now it is terrifying. It looks increasingly likely that investigators will uncover the president attempting to thwart investigations into multiple felonies carried out by a cabinet level official who was working as the agent of a foreign power at least during his campaign and possibly while serving in the transition or in office. If this turns out to be true this is a scandal and criminal activity without precedent in all of US history, Watergate included.

What is their response? In a sane world, to prepare for possible impeachment proceedings. In our world? Attack the investigators and try to purge law enforcement of those who oppose them politically.

It is not hyperbole to say this represents the greatest threat to our system of government that we have faced in any of our lifetimes and half the country either doesn’t care or is actively rooting for it.

 

[jmagg]

Now you’re back to doing this again. What was he ‘exposed’ doing that was wrong? Literally nothing. (Other than having an affair)

I’m not sure why you keep repeating the same discredited ideas where you conflate political opinions with professional misconduct. It showed very clearly when you tried to make a mobster example but deliberately inserted misconduct in it that did not exist here. Remember, if literally every member of the FBI named their kid after Hillary Clinton, even the boys, that would be entirely fine.

Because opinions wouldn't include the word "insurance", which implys conspiracy.

 

[fskimospy]

Because opinions wouldn't include the word "insurance", which implys conspiracy.

Except of course in context it just meant that they needed to pursue their investigation aggressively, which is entirely proper. I'm sure you agree?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/in-fbi...licy-text-referred-to-russia-probe-1513624580

Here's why this account makes the most sense from the guy who broke the original story:

https://twitter.com/DelWilber/status/942873402435653632

Now do you feel better?