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Turfzilla

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On a roulette table, red and black pay out 2-1. So, as long as you have the money to cover it, you will never lose.

Theory: Always bet the same color and evertime you lose, you double down.

X-Factor: "00" and "0"

Ex.

Bet Black: $20 - Lose (Red)
Double Down - $40 - Lose (red)
Double Down - $80 - Lose (red)
Double Down - $160 - Lose (red)
Double Down - $320 - Win (Black)

Total bet: $620

2-1 payout = $640 winnings vs. $620 lost

Payout: You will always pocket your 1st bet i.e. 640-620 = $20 earned.

Up the bets and you up the reward when you win. Enless of course you hit "00" or "0".
You make your money back plus what your original bet was.

 
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alien42

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i will be LMAO when you lose 6-8 times in a row and can not afford that next double down.

roulette = worst odds in the casino
 
dullard

dullard

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Good luck with that. Many others have tried, they all fail. They have tried on virtually all gambling games, they all failed.

Two major problems:

1) You risk losing near infinite amounts of money just to win your measly small first bet. In your example, what if you lost on that last hand? You'd be down $620. Thus, you risked $620 to win $20. What a stupid bet that is; if I told you now that you could bet $620 and have slightly under 50/50 odds to win $20 would you take it? Of course not. What if you lost a couple more times (it can and will happen)? Now you are down many thousands (even hundreds of thousands of dollars) all to try to win $20. Are you willing or even able to lose hundreds of thousands of dollars?

2) Casinos have solved that problem. They put a cap on the maximum bid. In your case, what happens if the maximum bid is $250? After you bet $160, you are now down a total of $300. And you can't go up to $320 due to the cap. Even if you do win, you are still down $50 total.

Your plan is the biggest sucker's plan out there. But many others will try it and will lose their shirts.
 
her209

her209

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LOL... this works in all games of gambling. For example, Blackjack.
 
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Pugnax

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Originally posted by: dullard
Good luck with that. Many others have tried, they all fail. They have tried on virtually all gambling games, they all failed.

Two major problems:

1) You risk losing near infinite amounts of money just to win your measly small bet. In your example, what if you lost on that last hand? You'd be down $620. Thus, you risked $620 to win $20. What a stupid bet that is. What if you lost a couple more times (it can and will happen)? Now you are down many thousands (even hundreds of thousands of dollars) all to try to win $20. Are you willing or even able to put up hundreds of thousands of dollars?

2) Casinos have solved that problem. They put a cap on the maximum bid. In your case, what happens if the maximum bid is $250? After you bet $160, you are now down a total of $300. And you can't go up to $320 due to the cap. Even if you do win, you are still down $50 total.

Your plan is the biggest sucker's plan out there. But many others will try it and will lose their shirts.
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There is a reason casinos are in business...
If you want anything close to even odds, blackjack is probably your best bet...
 
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Schfifty Five

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Oct 20, 2005
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Originally posted by: Turfzilla
On a roulette table, red and black pay out 2-1. So, as long as you have the money to cover it, you will never lose.

Theory: Always bet the same color and evertime you lose, you double down.

X-Factor: "00" and "0"

Ex.

Bet Black: $20 - Lose (Red)
Double Down - $40 - Lose (red)
Double Down - $80 - Lose (red)
Double Down - $160 - Lose (red)
Double Down - $320 - Win (Black)

Total bet: $620

2-1 payout = $640 winnings vs. $620 lost

Payout: You will always pocket your 1st bet i.e. 640-620 = $20 earned.

Up the bets and you up the reward when you win. Enless of course you hit "00" or "0".
You make your money back plus what your original bet was.
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lol. you're funny.
 
MotionMan

MotionMan

Lifer
Jan 11, 2006
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Originally posted by: Turfzilla
On a roulette table, red and black pay out 2-1. So, as long as you have the money to cover it, you will never lose.

Theory: Always bet the same color and evertime you lose, you double down.

X-Factor: "00" and "0"

Ex.

Bet Black: $20 - Lose (Red)
Double Down - $40 - Lose (red)
Double Down - $80 - Lose (red)
Double Down - $160 - Lose (red)
Double Down - $320 - Win (Black)

Total bet: $620

2-1 payout = $640 winnings vs. $620 lost

Payout: You will always pocket your 1st bet i.e. 640-620 = $20 earned.

Up the bets and you up the reward when you win. Enless of course you hit "00" or "0".
You make your money back plus what your original bet was.
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Except that the payout on red/black is 1 to 1, not 2 to 1. (Also see the section under "Betting Systems" on that page.)

MotionMan
 
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DBL

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Originally posted by: Turfzilla
On a roulette table, red and black pay out 2-1. So, as long as you have the money to cover it, you will never lose.

Theory: Always bet the same color and evertime you lose, you double down.

X-Factor: "00" and "0"

Ex.

Bet Black: $20 - Lose (Red)
Double Down - $40 - Lose (red)
Double Down - $80 - Lose (red)
Double Down - $160 - Lose (red)
Double Down - $320 - Win (Black)

Total bet: $620

2-1 payout = $640 winnings vs. $620 lost

Payout: You will always pocket your 1st bet i.e. 640-620 = $20 earned.

Up the bets and you up the reward when you win. Enless of course you hit "00" or "0".
You make your money back plus what your original bet was.
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How can you ignore the fact that 00 and 0 make roulette a long term losing gamble? Essentially you are asking if you can make money getting paid 1:1 on a bet with < 1:1 odds. The answer is no.

And no roulette pays 2:1 betting on red/black except for Casino night at sleep away camp in 1986. It was only about an hour or two before we cleaned out the casino and won a trip to town and a pizza party.



 
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Turfzilla

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Originally posted by: dullard
Good luck with that. Many others have tried, they all fail. They have tried on virtually all gambling games, they all failed.

Two major problems:

1) You risk losing near infinite amounts of money just to win your measly small first bet. In your example, what if you lost on that last hand? You'd be down $620. Thus, you risked $620 to win $20. What a stupid bet that is; if I told you now that you could bet $620 and have slightly under 50/50 odds to win $20 would you take it? Of course not. What if you lost a couple more times (it can and will happen)? Now you are down many thousands (even hundreds of thousands of dollars) all to try to win $20. Are you willing or even able to lose hundreds of thousands of dollars?

2) Casinos have solved that problem. They put a cap on the maximum bid. In your case, what happens if the maximum bid is $250? After you bet $160, you are now down a total of $300. And you can't go up to $320 due to the cap. Even if you do win, you are still down $50 total.

Your plan is the biggest sucker's plan out there. But many others will try it and will lose their shirts.
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Good info... Thanks
 
Demon-Xanth

Demon-Xanth

Lifer
Feb 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: alien42
i will be LMAO when you lose 6-8 times in a row and can not afford that next double down.

roulette = worst odds in the casino
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Actually, the worst is Keno. The only person that I've heard winning the top prize was a guy who worked for the Nevada Gaming Control Board and pulled an inside job and cheated.

Edit:
oh yeah, and your math is off. You'll have won $320 and lost $620. That puts you in the pwned bin.
 
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LS20

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Jan 22, 2002
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That's called the Martingale strategy.

a) You win 20$. The casino lose 20$. You start all over again.

b) You lose 20$. You continue with strategy until 1) you run out of funds or 2) you hit betting limit....


Casino's risk is your starting bet. Their reward is the betting limit (or your max $)


you =pwned

 
purbeast0

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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why do you think that roulette tables have limits? because you will eventually lose 5 times in a row and be out $620.
 
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Casawi

Platinum Member
Oct 31, 2004
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man I am going to try that. Maybe with just dollars, but I think I am pretty lucky in roulette. All my casino winnings came from roulette. I think I am up like $100 in roulette, but I haven't been to a casino in over a year.
 
NuclearNed

NuclearNed

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May 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Casawi
man I am going to try that. Maybe with just dollars, but I think I am pretty lucky in roulette. All my casino winnings came from roulette. I think I am up like $100 in roulette, but I haven't been to a casino in over a year.
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If you think his winning scheme is good, you should see my fail-proof plan. It is 100% guaranteed to produce winnings at roulette or any other casino game. Paypal me $10 and I'll let you in on the details.
 
PepePeru

PepePeru

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Jul 21, 2005
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i was just in vegas last weekend and would add 5.00 to my bet after losing a hand in paigow up to 20-25.00. after that i go back to 10.00
it worked well enough the first night.
:D
i got lucky hitting my increased bets.
on friday & saturday...not so much.


 
GagHalfrunt

GagHalfrunt

Lifer
Apr 19, 2001
25,284
1,998
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You're an idiot. Bet doubling systems were invented about 10 seconds after the original gambling game was invented. The reason that Casinos and race tracks are in business is because doubling systems DON'T WORK!! All it takes is a short losing streak and you're possibly risking huge amounts of money to win small amounts.

Bet $20 and lose.
Bet $80 and lose.
Bet $80 and lose.
Bet $160 and lose.
Bet $320 and lose.
Bet $640 and lose.
Bet $1280 and lose.
Bet $2560 and lose.
Bet $5120 and lose.
Bet $10240 and lose.

That's all it takes, a 10 roll losing streak which is VERY possible. And suddenly you're forced with the prospect of finding $20,480 and finding a casino willing to let you wager that on a single roll and for what? To win $20. Lose again and you need to scrape together $40,960 to bet to win $20. Lose again and you need to lay more than $80,000 down to win that $20.
 
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