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Roswell ufo crash real or fake?

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Originally posted by: CptFarlow1
Now nobody even go to say that it was some hallucination from the MJ. I have been a long-time user and have never seen something that wasn't there.

There is a first time for everything isn't there? MJ increases paranoia, and even if you did see something legitimate you were under the influence of a substance that decreases your ability to reason. So your reasoning ability is shot, paranoia level is elevated and you see "something", your ability to judge distance, direction and size at night under these conditions is suspect and unreliable. As with the majority of UFO observers your personal testimony has zero weight and your eye witness account is most probably incorrect.

Reck, lay off the crack. Aliens are not visiting the US. They are not travelling hundereds of light years (and taking many years to do it) to go on some anal exploration all the while avoiding any real contact with the rest of humanity. Roswell was a coverup, of the crash of a skunk works USAF prototype. All the legitimate sightings of UFO's are going to be observations of these skunk work prototypes. We probably have half a dozen USAF craft that are still under seal. (As evidence consider that the first trial runs of the stealth fighter were in the late 70's).

It's crazy to me that people think that can look at the video of some light moving from the sky and get some "expert" to say that it was moving at X mph and making X degree turns when they have NO evidence of speed, direction or flight path. These "experts" pull numbers out their ass by making all kinds of bogus assumptions but they appear credible to the lay person because they know some big words.
 
Originally posted by: rahvin
Originally posted by: CptFarlow1
Now nobody even go to say that it was some hallucination from the MJ. I have been a long-time user and have never seen something that wasn't there.

There is a first time for everything isn't there? MJ increases paranoia, and even if you did see something legitimate you were under the influence of a substance that decreases your ability to reason. So your reasoning ability is shot, paranoia level is elevated and you see "something", your ability to judge distance, direction and size at night under these conditions is suspect and unreliable. As with the majority of UFO observers your personal testimony has zero weight and your eye witness account is most probably incorrect.

Whoa. Don't think I am just another pot smoker. I have done numerous reports for school and for my own knowledge on plenty of drugs, mostly MJ. Every single place that I have EVER looked has shown that it MAY affect reasoning, distance, direction, etc. I know what I saw, but not what it was. I really don't care if it is an alien or if its Wanda Sykes on fire flying throught he sky. The point being, I saw exactly what I saw. The MJ has nothing to do with it, because unlike how the gov. makes the public believe, MJ does not affect people the way people are told. I won't get into it.

Yeah, you are right, the majority of UFO sightings have zero credibility, but I don't care. I never went to the papers or anything. It was exactly that, an eye witness account which I care nothing other than to maybe think about and to tell friends about.
 
Hm you do realize those pictures have been screened by photo analysts to determine whether or not they are real or fake right? To say that everything you see has is somehow fake is incredibly closed minded....but whatever.


Gah and why am I wasting my time arguing about such things? I have too much time on my hands. I'm done with this topic... 91TTZ is a troll at best.
 
Originally posted by: Reck
Hm you do realize those pictures have been screened by photo analysts to determine whether or not they are real or fake right? To say that everything you see has is somehow fake is incredibly closed minded....but whatever.

LOL

Once again, when someone is intelligent enough not to fall for poorly faked pictures confirmed by fake "experts", call them "closed minded".

What? Don't believe in bigfoot or a giant squid that walks on land in the middle of the night and deletes people's XBox saved games? You're just closed minded.

Originally posted by: Reck
Gah and why am I wasting my time arguing about such things? I have too much time on my hands. I'm done with this topic... 91TTZ is a troll at best.

That's funny. I'm the troll because I don't believe in vast conspiracy theories and expect people to believe in them. Don't you have an abductees conference you should be attending? Your belief in UFO coverups and your trust of these lame sites and documentaries stems from your poor reasoning ability, not from any kind of insight that you have.
 
Real incident, incorrect facts. People were paranoid back then and a lot of distortions, misunderstandings, and all out lies popped up. I'm convinced it was a sensitive military operation that people blew out of proportion.
 
Originally posted by: KruptosAngelos
Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: KruptosAngelos
It's ok guys, you can sleep well tonight. I just confirmed it, there are no aliens.

billions of other galaxies and yet none of them you saw had any life sustaining planets!!!!! AMAZING!!
:roll:

Life sustaining planets does not immediately mean there is intelligent life on them. Hate to burst your bubble, but space is there for us, not anyone else.
Did you seriously just say that the Earth is the proverbial center of the universe?

LOL.... Wow.... Just.. wow.

If anyone needs their "bubble burst", it's you. Yours appears to be opaque.
 
Originally posted by: Reck
Hm you do realize those pictures have been screened by photo analysts to determine whether or not they are real or fake right? To say that everything you see has is somehow fake is incredibly closed minded....but whatever.


Gah and why am I wasting my time arguing about such things? I have too much time on my hands. I'm done with this topic... 91TTZ is a troll at best.

Who were these "photo analysts?" Does that website keep a staff of them around? Out of all the pictures they've received, how many have they rejected for being fake?

 
Ok I have a small excerpt from some of the nasa footage that was shown on tv. How do I host it?

I'm curious what sort of lame explanations 91TTZ has for it.
 
Originally posted by: Reck
Ok I have a small excerpt from some of the nasa footage that was shown on tv. How do I host it?

I'm curious what sort of lame explanations 91TTZ has for it.


Keep in mind that for the last 50 years the "lame" explanations have been much more convincing than the even lamer "evidence".

PS- Keep on talking, because the more you say, the dumber you reveal yourself to be.
 
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Reck
Ok I have a small excerpt from some of the nasa footage that was shown on tv. How do I host it?

I'm curious what sort of lame explanations 91TTZ has for it.


Keep in mind that for the last 50 years the "lame" explanations have been much more convincing than the even lamer "evidence".

PS- Keep on talking, because the more you say, the dumber you reveal yourself to be.

You are amazingly dense you know that?

http://rapidshare.de/files/809943/Tether_Incident_Documatery_Clip_1-2.rm.html

http://rapidshare.de/files/809953/Tether_Incident_Documatery_Clip_2-2.rm.html

excuse the fox tv corniness and idiotic commentary, its the best i could do. it's actually a very small portion of the footage shown btw.
 
While I do not know if the Roswell incident is legitimate more so than anyone else, I have a hard time believing we are alone in the universe. I have no idea why alien civilizations would want to visit Earth and what they may be doing here but I sincerely hope if they can reach our planet it's not with malicious intent. We can only see things from our limited perspective, given our environment, education and experiences so who is to say that extraterrestrials may not have some reason for coming here that we may not ever have thought of?

Many governments of the world have had some type of program similar to the Airforce's now defunct Project Blue Book. This includes Belgium, the former USSR and England. All of these countries have documented strange occurrences in their "neck of the woods" as well including some deemed so alarming they scrambled fighter jets to investigate or considered a threat to national security. Many airline pilots with stellar reputations, government employees, military personnel and other credible eyewitnesses such as police forces have seen inexplicable craft that defy conventional explanations. This is more than somebody seeing a Stealth bomber and making a statement it's an alien ship because it hadn't been revealed to the public yet. They still fly like regular airplanes when it's all said and done.

These sightings have noted the craft did odd things that modern technology could not yet duplicate. This in itself opens another debate some have said that they are indeed terrestrial craft but with alien technology discovered at such sites as Roswell. Either way with that argument you still have the indisputable fact they are a real and definite entity. I am not going so far as to suggest that but there is much we do not know and to discount everything beyond our puny, insignificant lives is very narrow minded in my opinion.
 
Originally posted by: Reck
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Reck
Ok I have a small excerpt from some of the nasa footage that was shown on tv. How do I host it?

I'm curious what sort of lame explanations 91TTZ has for it.


Keep in mind that for the last 50 years the "lame" explanations have been much more convincing than the even lamer "evidence".

PS- Keep on talking, because the more you say, the dumber you reveal yourself to be.

You are amazingly dense you know that?

http://rapidshare.de/files/809943/Tether_Incident_Documatery_Clip_1-2.rm.html

http://rapidshare.de/files/809953/Tether_Incident_Documatery_Clip_2-2.rm.html

excuse the fox tv corniness and idiotic commentary, its the best i could do. it's actually a very small portion of the footage shown btw.

God that was lame, although I just loved the part where the "scientist" was talking about the "UFO" that was emitting "gravity waves" and using "zero point" energy. Ah yes, the cream of the crop there.
 
Originally posted by: rahvin
Originally posted by: Reck
Like I said, ignore the idiotic commentary. :disgust:

Without the commentary you have a bunch of space debris. It's a junkyard up there, BFD.

space debris can change direction at will? amazing!

Did I mention that that camera footage was taken 80-90 miles away from the tether? Pretty big for some space debris wouldn't you say? Each of those objects is easily hundreds and hundres of feet across. There are also 20 or more or them...how the fvck can you say that's space debis? You are an idiot to say the least.

 
Originally posted by: Reck
space debris can change direction at will? amazing!

Did I mention that that camera footage was taken 80-90 miles away from the tether? Pretty big for some space debris wouldn't you say? Each of those objects is easily hundreds and hundres of feet across. There are also 20 or more or them...how the fvck can you say that's space debis? You are an idiot to say the least.

As someone who spends his day trying to describe in 2D something that has to be built in 3D I'm educated enough to realize that a 2D picture cannot capture 3D information. Given a black backround, zero frames of reference and a complete and utter lack of ability to judge distance it would be idiotic to assume that you can judge direction, distance or momentum from that 2D picture.

You, like the stupid moron narrating it, can't even prove to me that the object he talks about being 2miles across is closer or further away from the shuttle than the satelite. Without even a frame of reference on which object is closer you can't even begin to infer size or distance let alone the optical problems that are encountered in the upper atmosphere where prismatic effects distort things.

Next you will be telling me you see gravity waves as well.
 
Originally posted by: rahvin
Originally posted by: Reck
space debris can change direction at will? amazing!

Did I mention that that camera footage was taken 80-90 miles away from the tether? Pretty big for some space debris wouldn't you say? Each of those objects is easily hundreds and hundres of feet across. There are also 20 or more or them...how the fvck can you say that's space debis? You are an idiot to say the least.

As someone who spends his day trying to describe in 2D something that has to be built in 3D I'm educated enough to realize that a 2D picture cannot capture 3D information. Given a black backround, zero frames of reference and a complete and utter lack of ability to judge distance it would be idiotic to assume that you can judge direction, distance or momentum from that 2D picture.

You, like the stupid moron narrating it, can't even prove to me that the object he talks about being 2miles across is closer or further away from the shuttle than the satelite. Without even a frame of reference on which object is closer you can't even begin to infer size or distance let alone the optical problems that are encountered in the upper atmosphere where prismatic effects distort things.

Next you will be telling me you see gravity waves as well.

*coughs* yea I was talking out of my ass. But they are obviously very large in size. Oh and yes NASA said they were "dust particles? What a joke. It's pretty obvious they are behind the tether...a flat out lie by NASA. Like I said earlier, the only reason why that footage was ever released is because a dude montitoring their transmissions.

Haha and in one part(is that in this version?) a ground based missle tries to take one a smaller one of these craft out. Ask yourself...why would the government do this?

http://www.disclosureproject.org/GreatestSecret2pgs.htm

A few of the very many quotes from the disclosure project.
 
Originally posted by: Reck
*coughs* yea I was talking out of my ass.

Glad you can admit it.
Originally posted by: Reck
But they are obviously very large in size.

Only to idiots that have no concept of perspective and how 2D images can distort visual images.
Originally posted by: Reck
Oh and yes NASA said they were "dust particles? What a joke.

Well according to that video NASA said it's space Junk (not dust), given the amount of Junk up there I would say that's pretty damn likely.
Originally posted by: Reck
It's pretty obvious they are behind the tether...a flat out lie by NASA.

The only person it's obvious to is someone who has already made up their mind and drawn their conclusions beforehand. :beer:
 
Originally posted by: Reck
Like I said, ignore the idiotic commentary. :disgust:

It's hard to separate idiotic commentary from an idiot narrating an idiotic piece of "evidence".

It's space junk. It's amazing how all the people in the space shuttle when this was happening seem to think it's debris rather than a UFO. But what would they know, anyway. They're only astronauts that were THERE at the time.

And I love the comment about the UFO lighting up, "which shows great intelligence". LOL

Is there any point in your incoherent thought process that you step back and think, "hmm, if aliens do exist and they have the technology to get to Earth, why would they dispatch 20 UFO's, each being at least 2 miles across, to swarm around a broken piece of wire? Seriously, WTF are they going to learn from a little piece of copper wire, and what would 20 UFO's buzzing around it do that 1 cannot?"
 
Originally posted by: Reck
But they are obviously very large in size. Oh and yes NASA said they were "dust particles? What a joke. It's pretty obvious they are behind the tether...a flat out lie by NASA. Like I said earlier, the only reason why that footage was ever released is because a dude montitoring their transmissions.

You need to seriously get a clue. Until then, protect yourself.

And btw, I remember when NASA did that experiment and all the news stations had footage of it. Your reason about some dude monitoring the transmissions and releasing the footage is a flat out lie.

And you linked to a conspiracy theory website. Great detective work.
 
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